Clue (1985) Unraveling the Mystery
Henrique and David continue their Martin Mull tribute—after debating “Mull-Gust” versus the less painful “Mulling Around”—with Clue (1985). Six strangers arrive at secluded Hill House in 1954 under familiar aliases: Miss Scarlet, Mrs. Peacock, Mrs. White, Colonel Mustard, Professor Plum and Mr. Green. When blackmailer Mr. Boddy is killed, butler Wadsworth races the guests and household staff through a stormy mansion to identify the murderer before the bodies multiply.
Tim Curry leads Jonathan Lynn’s board-game comedy alongside Eileen Brennan, Madeline Kahn, Christopher Lloyd, Michael McKean, Martin Mull, Lesley Ann Warren and Colleen Camp. The hosts praise the ensemble’s precision, John Morris’s energetic score and Victor J. Kemper’s old-dark-house photography. They revisit the singing-telegram gag, Wadsworth’s breathless reconstruction and Kahn’s improvised “flames” monologue while explaining how innuendo, slapstick and murder-mystery mechanics reward repeat viewing.
The movie’s three endings receive special attention. Separate conclusions originally played in different theaters, while home editions assembled them into one escalating finale; a darker fourth ending survives only through related print material. Henrique remembers first seeing the complete film on a classroom television cart and laughing uncontrollably at the singing telegram. David connects his own cable viewings to a childhood love of the board game, including a disastrous real game in which he accidentally withheld a crucial card.
Production history follows producer Debra Hill’s acquisition of the Parker Brothers rights, John Landis’s multiple-ending concept and Lynn’s screenplay and direction. The mansion interiors were constructed as sets, apart from the Pasadena ballroom location, and the production eventually grouped scenes by room after abandoning chronological filming. The hosts also discuss Carrie Fisher’s intended casting as Miss Scarlet, Warren’s late replacement and the original theatrical experiment alongside the movie’s disappointing box-office results and later cult audience.
Both hosts give Clue a buy-it recommendation for its fast pace, endlessly quotable cast and broad rewatch value. The episode’s detours include a joking argument over whether The Fast and the Furious borrows from Point Break, plus listener mail that feeds their continuing movie-suggestion list. Recommendations for Murder by Death, Deathtrap and A Haunting in Venice expand the mansion-mystery theme while keeping Martin Mull’s perfectly pompous Colonel Mustard at the center of this tribute entry.
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0:00 Or was it Professor Plumm, missus White, mister Green, this is peacocks scarlet, Colonel Mustard, I'm only there, guess with a knife, a gun, a pipe, a candlestick or a rope pipe in the hall, lounge, dinning, in the kitchen, library or the study kind to make a long story short here or did the fuck blue do it? You've got to find out. Clue. It's a comedy with three different endings. Who done it? Depends on where you see it gritted PG clue. The movie We Dare You To Solve starts Friday in a world where podcasts reigned supreme. Two Friends Dare to ask.
0:41 Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David de Noyer. Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I'm, of course your host Enrique Kuto here with double D David Denoyer, or as I'm calling him for the rest of tonight. Body body, I.
1:22 Mean, people aren't gonna get that from what we're talking about. Well, no, because we just watched Point Break with Rift Tracks in the theater. Rift Tracks live for since point Break, So uh, I've got body on the Mine. Yeah, you've also got Point Break on the mine. I do well, you know, I want to have a successful life like he did. Well. I mean, let's go ahead and air, let's go ahead and just put this out in the universe. All we talked about it on the way home. Okay. I think that Point Break was ripped off by The Fast and Furious, and I find Point Break not to necessarily be the better movie. But I think Point Break is fucking awesome. I never said I know anything bad about I just said that the screenplay of Fast and the Fury Furious, Furious, Furious is a better screenplay. I don't think it is, I do, I don't, but but there are just there are some really lazy, dumb fun moments some Point Break absolutely and don't get here. There's a lot of dumb.
2:19 But I think that the problem is you're thinking about the Fast and the Furious series, which gets dumber as it gets more fun and silly. I'm talking about that first movie. There is surprisingly grounded. It is, But at the same time, I ya, I haven't seen it in a good bit. I will I will say that I haven't seen Fast and Serious in a good bit. But the more It was a while ago that somebody I was listening to a podcast and they compared the two. First of all, don't listen to podcasts. They're full of loudmouth assholes who don't know anything. I was listening to a podcasts they compared the two, and it was more so that thing where it's just like, oh shit, yeah, that absolutely is kind of like a rip off of Point Break. I mean, the idea that criminals are are adrenaline junkies not super new. Yeah, not at all. If there had been like a shipload of surfing in Fast and Furious, I would say, you really have a point and like, wow, they stole but.
3:15 The surfing swapped out with car racing. Okay, I mean you could say that about every movie then, well, go ahead, you can. You can be like you could be like, well, I don't really like Philadelphia because it's basically just a Wizard of It's just a Wizard of Oz. But they swapped going to Neverland or whatever with AIDS. Wow, that's your point. That's not that I don't think. I don't think that's true, not, but you do you think that's not all? That's how ripoffs work. I think that's all I think that's verbatim what you said. I'm just saying that I don't think. I mean, could it have been inspired by Point Break? I would say absolutely, no, way, it's not because it's a it was a massive movie, it had an incredible impact on the culture.
4:02 But it just I just remember the joke being when twenty fifteen's Point Break came out was, well they already did Fast and Furious. Okay, So jokes are how we decide what's true. Now, Okay, Well, if that's the case, If that's the case, Okay, I've learned a lot about a man from Nantucket that I had no idea was. We're five minutes and it's already off the fucking rails. I'm fine. Fine, So enough about Point Break, because that's not what we're talking back to the man from Nantucke. There we go. So my god, No, I I will never deny that it could be heavily influenced. Yeah, it's just the idea of it being a rip off. It's a little too because because the the biggest appeal of Point Break is like surfer dude stuff, Keanu, you know, that kind of thing in a very nineties aesthetic. As we're Fast and the Furious is literally like it's cars and smelling.
5:03 Axe, body spray and an undercover cop. Yeah yeah there. But then again but again, like how many undercover cop movies? And I like a lot of those? Yeah, I mean, but how many are there? You know, him going under if anything, him going undercover but as a surfer is like a massive play on cliche. Yeah, in and of itself. Well what I mean, And I will say the big the big separation at least from the from the opening of the two films is we meet Johnny Utah. You know, he's he's joining the FBI literally on the first day. Whereas with Fast and Furious we meet Paul Walker. He's familiar with Toretto and his is gang of people. But the first like running with Toretto doesn't go well, whereas Point Break it seems to go pretty well. Body as they kind of hit it off. Yeah. Well, and and that's part of them building up the the heartbreak of them you know, having to him having to turn on them. Yeah, which is the one thing about the about Point Break I always pick on is like it's so obvious the bad guys are his friends friends, ye, Like it's so obvious, but anyway, I like point break and it's a lot of fun.
6:02 No one throws a furious as a weapon. No, sadly no, sadly no. Before we get to the should I tell the story about that damn dog? Oh? Please do? Yes? Uh So, speaking of throwing dogs, I am a dog lover. Yes, I don't currently have any dogs, but I am a dog lover. And I was driving home yesterday or yeah, it was literally yesterday of when we're recording this, and as I'm driving down my street, I'm literally on my block. I see this little dog standing alone, nobody around. So I'm like, ah, God, this dog got out, and I'm like, I would never forgive myself if I didn't help the dog. Absolutely, So I unlock, I stop my car, I park on the side of the road.
6:49 I grab a leash because I still have a lot of dog stuff in my car. I grab a leash, no collar, of course, but a harness, so I know the dog is owned, but I have no way of figuring out how fair. On top of all this, it's like three forty five in the afternoon, and I just want to go home and get like plan on, you know, prepping dinner, I want to, you know, do all these things. And here I am staring at this dog that hates me. At first, it was barking and barking and barking, and I just stood there. I didn't walk toward it or anything. I just stood there let it bark and bark and bark, and eventually it stopped barking. So then I took like a little step forward and bark a little bit and i'd stop. Eventually I crouched down and try calling it to me. It came to me like a little bit, but not within three feet. So finally, after a little after maybe two or three minutes of just like staring at this dog and also looking around hoping a neighbor would come out, or maybe the owners were walking down the you know whatever. After all that time, I decide, okay, I gotta test this. So I start walking away from the dog, and the dog starts following me, and I'm like, oh, okay, so he's very friendly dog. Trust people. That's a good thing.
8:08 So I just started walking slowly down the block, and I was watching this dog like a hawk like Keanu Reeves with with binoculars, creeping on Lori Petty and I'm watching this dog. And on the second or third house that we'd walked past, I noticed he stopped and smelled a lot. So I was like, okay, maybe I understand dogs. Good, you know, maybe I understand dogs, because I figure either this might be the dog's house or this is the house with another dog in it. So I see it's diffing around. So I walk up the driveway and it runs past me up the driveway and right up to the house, to the door, and I'm like, this is your house. So I knock on the door and there are just these four kids. Probably the oldest was like thirteen years old. The thirteen or fourteen year old spoke the most English, so I got to dust off my Spanglish in order to make sure they knew, like, your dog is okay, but like, please get it a collar with your address on it. And they're like okay, okay.
9:15 I'm like, all right, you guys, take care and they're like thank you, thank you. Think you know. So as I'm walking away, I get in my car. I literally closed my door and start my engine, and the dog is just sitting on the front porch. He'd already he'd went out back and already escaped again. There was a little dog, so I'm guessing there was like a hole in the fence he discovered or redug a hole or something. So I stop the car, I get out again. I walk up to their house, knock on the door. Luckily I didn't have to explain anything is this. I'm open the door and I just pointed to the dog. I'm like, oh, I got like bring the dog back in there, like thank you, and I'm like yep, yep, and I'm like, all right, i gotta go home. I can't spend my whole day helping this family with their dog. Absolutely, but I felt almost superhuman for my ability to stay at a dog intensely and observe its body language.
10:04 That's fair. I was like, wow, I guess you know, the the six years of pet of dog ownership I had weren't totally wasted in that I felt like I felt like iced tea and surviving the game. How he was just like, yo, dogs, I we haven't understanding, you know. That's how I felt after I helped. Except this was except this was like some kind of like a corgy Yorky like thing with big ears that was only like six pounds. So I'm like, hey, me and the dog, we get it. Yeah, and then I'm like, anyway, I want some snacks. So that's that's my That was my yesterday adventure and very amusing. I was so relieved because there are two other times in my life I've ever i've rescued loose dogs. One time there was just a freakin' adorable Pi Micks, loose and friendly, like incredibly friendly. I ended up having to grab it by its collar. That's how friendly it was. I'm a stranger. Yeah, and it let me grab its collar, didn't growl or anything.
11:12 And I just walked into my backyard, put it through the gate, shut the gate behind it, and I went, all right, who the fuck owns this dog? Yeah? And I started stopping around. Luckily it turned out to be across the street. Neighbors had just adopted it. I don't know how long ago, not that time you were retired. I was literally getting ready bring that up. Yeah, yes, well that was a wonderful experience. Oh my god, dude, that was fucking scary. Oh cry about it. No, I leave your house. It's after midnight at this point, like we. You walking, we were hanging out to midnight. I left your house after midnight, and I'm going to my car, which has parked in your driveway, and then all across the street, all of a sudden, this dog just comes running up. I thought it was no, it's just one. Oh okay, I thought, I remember you hanging out your front door, going get your dog.
11:52 I was screaming at their house. Yeah, because I didn't know how else toll because the fucking dog. Came to the door and was even barking when I ran inside. Oh yeah, I know, he was like up at my door. Yeah, and uh yeah, so I was I would have to open the door. I was just yelled, get your dog, just toward their house. I have a loud voice. Apparently it worked, which makes me wonder if I can yell things at my neighbors while they're in bed and wake them up. Probably, all right, we'll test this before you leave. Test the new powers. God. But no, so that dog. You know, luckily that turned out fine. But I was like very nervous. But then one time I was driving down a main road over here and there was just a little dog wandering and I was like, oh man, that dog is gonna get creamed. We're on a major road. So I pull over, put my hazards on, and I go up to the dog and I'm like, hey, buddy, it looks like you came from right there. Is that your home? And the little thing just looks at me goes ah, And I was.
12:45 Like, fuck shit, I don't care anymore. I ran past the dog and was like, come on, come and get me, Come and get me. And it was like and finally I got it to its back to the back door, to the of their little gate, and I just opened it and I tricked the dog into getting and there slammed it behind me. I was like, And then I went up to the ring doorbell and just pressed the thing. I was like, your dog is in your backyard. Have a good day. Yeah, I do the same. But that taught me to have a little bit more trepidation, because like, oh right, some dogs are fucking mean. I forgot because I don't know.
13:26 I just reminds me of that Nick Offerman meme from Parkson rec Have you seen it where they've put like a raccoon face over Aubrey Plaza in the show, and it just like has a caption that says hissing and then Afferman's thing. Blow it says nonsense, we're good friends. That's pretty funny. Yeah, I like that. So anyway, long story short, dog's funny. I like them band's best friend. Holy shit, So it was you in. The backyard with the dog ceiling the fence, is what you're saying. Uh, maybe I see what you did there, and I'm stopping it right now. There will be none of this, none of this, none of that anyway. So tonight as we wrap up, not Mulgus, we're not wrapping up, because that's we have one more we're wrapping. We're over halfway.
14:15 That's wrapping it up. Okay, just making sure that you realize we have. We're beginning to wrap it up. And also sorry, we will we will end with the other name here because our good friend Patrick gave us mulling around and I kind of do like that. So we're mulling around in August. We're mulling around and. Okay, okay, I mean I hate that substantially less, but that's not saying very much much. There are many things I hate less than Mulgus. Eating mothball. I like, I hate that less crunching on what is it? Uh? Tinfoil because I just thought of like chewing on freshly microwave tinfoil. God, there you go, all right, taking a Deli toothpick and putting it under my big toenail and kicking a soccer ball.
14:59 That's not the worst place put up. But yes, do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? We diagree. The audience just is all cringing and they're like, I hate this show. Fifteen subscribed unsubscribed about the movie? What movie? No, exactly, So tonight we're talking about the nineteen eighty five film Clue Clue and the film with the most mall most male. Yeah, I mean, because this was one of his biggest feature film. Yeah, I would say compared to next week we're gonna closed out with which you'll tell you at the end of the show. Obviously, these two in a row that we have probably have them because I mean, he does have a significant role in Mister Mom. But the more that I think about it, he is only in like three four scenes.
15:51 I mean, he's a major supporting player for sure. Yeah, but he he has a lot of great comedy bits in this one. No, well, really crazy, right, I mean it's guess, the most famous ensemble comedy maybe of all time. Yeah, I mean and a legendary ensemble. Which before we get into him, what's your history with the game Clue? The game nothing. I didn't have friends growing. Up, so that's why we played at the lounge. Now, who was I gonna play Clue with? I mean I played it on the SNES. I never had that option. I ever thought about that. I showed you well, I showed you my shame during one of our live streams because the best thing about the Clue snees game is that you could make an accusation. When you make an accusation, you lose if it's wrong, and then the computers just keep going. So if you have like three or four computer players, you can just watch Clue happen.
16:37 Ah, that would be. That would be I would call that my friend simulator. When I was a kid. Oh God, yay, But no, I mean I played Clue a lot growing up. Actually, Clue was a game that we played. We had family family game lights every now and then. Of course you did. We were white, the most wholesome, goddamn family. But we played Clue a pretty good amount, and more so the fact, I really didn't even know a movie existed until the Comedy Central got it. Basically, I actually think I knew about the movie before we knew about the game. Wow, that's impressible. Yeah, the game or the movie was a regular player on cable. Oh yeah, especially on HBO and Comedy Central a little bit. So I was watching it a ton, and then I watched it in either sixth or seventh grade.
17:25 We was a reward talking about that. Yeah, yeah, except nobody got in trouble in my school. There were too busy worrying about drugs. Well your school there like no, we punished teachers for stuff. It was one of my favorite teachers of my junior high time. He decided a couple monthly movies that we have, which was the celebration we had if we didn't get like any signings, ornything like that, And he chose two movies that got him in trouble separate times, like if you missed homework or you were disrupting class like a right. Like a write up. Yeah, well I assumed a lot of players have different names for that. Yeah, we called them right up. Right up, So yeah, we had it. It was sign it had to sign in basically or sign. Well, so if you were few to sign and there was no pedalty. There was no penalty. I tried that genius. That's like, that's like when my orchestra teacher in high school made the horrible mistake of explaining how the grading system worked. And I was like, so if I never do any of the homework and never do any of the pass off tests, but I show up every day and I show up to the concerts, I'll have a seventy five.
18:20 Yeah. I bet she hated you. She did. Yeah, because when she was like, wait, why don't you do your pass offs? I explained. I was like, well, because well no, no, no, what she I said like, I don't do those And she was like, well, if you don't do them, you could only hope to get a seventy five percent. And I was like, dope passing, I know. I was like, that is dope, and she was Yeah, she hated my guts anyway, but yeah, yeah, So well. It's like you were looking up off Mike. You were looking up a bunch of the clue different versions that they. Have an insane amount of variation. Do you know at one time there was a talking Clue game. No, the pieces on the board talked and it would go with the gameplay, so like you would go in and.
19:00 I remember other games using that technology, you go and investigate. It would be like will you find this, this and this, and then you do your next turn and whatnot. But yeah, I think it was I think it was either Clue Detective Junior. If not Clue Junior, I can't remember. It might have been called Talking Clue. Yeah, I don't I don't know. It was a fun one, I do remember that, but yeah, that was That was my history with. The Clue Well that was not at all interesting. Well thank you, I appreciate you anytime. But no, no, I never really played it in my family. I mean, if we on the rare occasion we could play a board game or something like if my mother and my sister were both around, we played life. We played Sorry no mouse Trap mouse Trap once. Yes, that's really I might have been oh in candy Land that was the other one.
19:48 But we didn't have any other games, so we were poor. Yes. So actually it's funny because in my teen years I got obsessed with board games, so I so I know, I just went to through stores. Yeah, and would be like wow, and it'd stack up games. Is that where you got your Freddie board game? No, that was a gift. That was a gift I have. I think they got it on eBay. Yeah, because I know you've never played, because we talked about bringing it to the. Yeah, one time. It's a weird game. You tell a scary story using the details on the cards. It is bizarre. It's fun as hell. I'd be down to play. Who are you saying that Freddie merchandise gets into the bizarre level? Are you saying that? Are you making that claim?
20:32 What I'm saying is while I find the game fun. When we had our Freddy's Nightmares podcast, I literally explained to you that we couldn't play the game on the show because it would be too boring. And I didn't want to have to edit a four hour video to an hour to be entertaining because that's too much friggin work. So but now I really want to play it. Oh we should at some point. Well, you know, I My biggest problem was so I was what I was getting at was I bought all those board games. Yeah, I'm so bad at rules? Yeah, because why we give them the Keith I'm so bad at rules that I mean, you guys have been trying desperately to teach me Yuker.
21:15 Well, they've been trying. I'm not a big Yugo fan. Well, it's just so many rules. I think that Uno is probably our best bet for the most time. But we have been getting better at those stop the killer games when we play them, which. Is yeah, yeah, they're they're fine. Fine, I don't know. I like the fact that they all repeat the same formula so you can play them easier that way, so that that way you don't have to learn rules for each a different games base. You heard Dave. They're lazy, that's what Dave just said. I mean they they, I mean they kind of are. Well, you know, I don't know. But with board games, yeah, I've always struggled. So if they were really simple, I might be able to stick it out. Or if I have somebody who's the rules are rules are, then I can stick it out. But otherwise, like I just I'm like, that's why I don't play cards. Yeah, it's there's so many rules that you have to learn. We were playing a Spanish card game at the lounge last week or the week before.
22:10 It was a week before there. Yeah, thank god, rude, But but we were playing it and it actually had a ton of rules but very few rules. You took like half the cards out of the deck. It was really fun. Hell yeah, but it took me twenty playthroughs to really feel like I could play it confidently. I mean, it can't be as bad as that time I fucked up our game of Clue because I didn't realize that I had a card that Keith was trying to do an accusation. What do you mean we were cheating? I didn't cheat intentionally. Yeah, that's what I meant. I wasn't saying you were you were plotting to cheat. But but he was like the same, man, have this You're like, Nope. When we opened that envelope and it was the wrong room if I remember, I think it was the conservatory and it was the ballroom that he had guessed. Because I had the ballroom card, I just wanted to immediately throw it on the floor, like, oh my god, guys, it was down here, you believe it. But anyway, yes, we are talking about nineteen eighty five's Clue tonight.
23:04 Is this the first film based on a board game? It's gotta be one of them, I would think. I know Cluto was the name of. The game, Well, that's just a mispronunciation of my last name. I get a little bit into the history when we get into the vac, so we'll save it for them. But I think it might be there may be an older one that I'm just not thinking of that that is coming to mind right now. But I think Clue is one of the big. I feel like, depending on where you are in the multiverse, there was a Shoots and Ladders movie with Richard Pryor. It could have been. Yes, it just sounds like the kind of thing he would have cashed in on. I still want a Hungry Hungry Hippos movie. I think that would be really awesome. I don't know if the world's ready for that level of violence. It's true, they are freaking violent. Perhaps your hippos are not as famished as you play, mister Bond.
23:45 So Clue from nineteen eighty five is one hour and thirty four minutes, rated PG for some violence, language, and sexual innuendos. Well, there are innuendos. There are innuendos. Yes. Our director and writer on the film, one of the writers and is Jonathan Lynn. He gets his start in nineteen seventy one with the film Doctor at Large, goes on to write for Nearest and Dearest, Romany Jones in seventy three, All Star Comedy Carnival in seventy three, Doctor at c in seventy four, My Brother's Keeper in seventy five, Yes, Minister in nineteen eighty, and then in nineteen eighty three he becomes a director on Arms and the Man. I've not seen that one yet. I have not either a clue, which he gets the screenplay credit for as well in nineteen eighty five. Nun's on the Run in nineteen ninety, which.
24:26 He's a writer on That sounds like a hit. Ferris Bueller TV Show in nineteen ninety. Well, now we know that's a hit, which he's He is the director on My Cousin Vinnie in nineteen ninety two. This is the guy, This is the guy Vinnie. Yeah. Wow. So he does My Cousin Vinnie in ninety two, The Distinguished Gentleman in ninety two, Greedy in ninety four, Sergeant Bilco in ninety six, Trial and Error in ninety seven, The Whole nine Yards. In two thousand Okay, that's one. I know, the Fighting Temptations in two thousand and three and then Wild Target in twenty ten, and his resume has basically stayed clean since then. Stayed clean, stayed clean. He's no longer addicted to the drug of making the movies. So Landa has the screenplay credit on the film. The other writer is mister John Landis, and I only focused on his writing credits for this one. I did throw it a little directing.
25:11 Well that makes sense. Yeah, So he gets his. Writing start in seventy three with Schlock, which he directs, The Blues Brothers in nineteen eighty, which he's a writer and director on American Werewolf in London in eighty one, which he's the director on and writer coming soon in eighty two, he's the director on in that as well. Twilight Zone, the movie he directs the segment and has he writes the or directs the prolog, or writes the prolog and directs his story. Yeah, of course, yes, the thriller Michael Jackson video in eighty three, Clue in eighty five, which he is the screenplay on. In American werel from Paris, he gets characters four in ninety seven Blues Brothers two thousand and ninety eight, which he gets a directing on, as well Susan's Plan in ninety eight directing, and then Masters of Horror in two thousand and five with The Dear Woman, which he's writer and director on. It's actually really cruel to only read Landi's writing credits, isn't it that? Because most of that stuff, like you literally mentioned a movie he only had characters on. He was mostly known as a writer director. Yeah, so most of the best stuff he did he also directed. Yeah.
26:07 I just want to mention that because as I was here and I'm like, man, these later ones. Yeah, although Deer Woman's one of the best Master of Horror episodes. I would like to go on record too. I think we've said this before he maybe even on the Freddy's podcast. But the what was technically season three of Masters of Horror Fear itself, I think is you and I both agree as a very underrated show. I think it's superior in many ways. I as much as I hate to say it, because Masters of Horror the whole concept was to let them kind of make whatever they wanted, as long as it was fifty or sixty minutes. Yeah, I think that hurt a lot of it. It did. I mean, if you hear Mick Garris talk about it, it's it's not clamorous. Oh really. Oh no, that's why season three of Fear Itself went the way it did.
26:48 You mean, why it turned into the Fear Itself. Well, and it was on broadcasts, so their budgets were bigger. And I think that having that, you know that, Oh, I can't think of the word ensemble. No, I was gonna say format. For having that format of TV to kind of keep you disciplined, I feel like that really helps. And I and I think too, it goes with that saying that season one is way superior to season two. Season two has some good episodes, but two is a bit of a drag to watch sometimes. Yeah. Well, because by that point the novelty was running low. The other thing that helped Fear Itself was that they did bring in TV directors and stuff too, so and they made some scary stuff.
27:29 They made some really good stories on that. It's it's kind of a bummer. That was an era, an era that's over where horror fans still had these demo demigods. There was a lot of demagoguery. You know, people were thinking would say our Gento Bro, you know, Dante Bro. They would say all these people, but most of them hadn't really done much in a while. And I'm not saying that that's rightfully so, but I'm saying like a lot of them were kind of past their prime. They were kind of low on great ideas well. I mean, your first season alone, you had why am I blanking on his name? A phantasm? Don Coscarelli, Coscarelli, you have Coscarelli, You've got Land.
28:13 Well, Coscarelli's is one of the best ones. Absolutely, and I think Larry Cohen's for first season pick me Up as one of the best ones. It's a really good one to him. Yeah. Yeah, the second seasons where it seemed to hurt. So going back into the film, we have a returning to the show from a couple of weeks ago, Victor J. Kemper, our cinematographer from Mister Mom. Just to give you a rundown of his resume once more, he does Dog Day Afternoon in seventy five, slap Shot, Audrey Rose, Oh God, Coma, The Eyes of Laura Mar's Magic, The Jerk, The Final Countdown, Xanadu, Mister Mom, Vacation, The Lonely Guy, Cloak and Dagger, Pee's Big Adventure, Clue in eighty five, Hot to Trot eighty eight, Cohen and Tate Snawa will hear New Evil FX two, Beethoven, Tommy Boy, Eddie and Jingle all the Way just a few Wow. Yeah, it was a hell of a career.
28:54 Yes, So moving down to our IMDb synopsis, it says six guests are anonymously invited to a Strain mansion for dinner, but after their host is killed, they must cooperate with the staff to identify the murderer as the bodies pile up. That's fine, but it's so dry and it's sterile like, like it's like it was made in a hospital. Maybe I can fix it. I doubt it. My synopsis says six guests receive invitations to a mansion where dinner turns deadly when the host is found murdered. Together, the group must figure out which one of them is the murderer. I like it. I think if it was six strangers, yeah that's instead of guests. Yeah, because them all not knowing each other is like a major part of the intrigue.
29:38 This is true. Yes, the intrigue, But then again, I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to market Clue, which would be the first time anybody did. Right, Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, oh buddy, Do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? Moving down to our cast, we have mister Tim Curry, who plays Wadsworth in the film. Two hundred and forty two credits on this man's resume. That's over two hundred and forty credits. He starts in nineteen seventy with Ace of Wand's ITV Saturday Night Theater in nineteen seventy, the Rocky Horror Picture Show in seventy five, Three Men in a Boat in seventy five, The Shout in seventy eight, Times Square in nineteen eighty, and I would like to give a shout out to the film Times Square. Keno just released it.
30:32 Keno Lurber just released it on Blu Ray about probably about three three four years ago, a really really underrated drama that has a lot of the New York background of the eighties, has a really good soundtrack to it, and Tim Carey's character is a radio DJ who's trying to make these two girls famous that are musicians. It's a really good flick. Huh. I'm gonna have to bring that over to sometime. I mean, i'd be interesting. I honestly, I just want to hear Curry try and do a radio voice. I mean he does pretty well. Oh good, I mean, I wouldn't. He's not like he's known for being bad. No, I mean. And I would also like to just say that if you have not listened to any of his albums, Fearless is one that came out I think in the early eighties that I have on vinyl that I love that album, which has his song Paradise Garage, and it also has I Do the Rock, which is one of his most famous singles reggae.
31:17 M oh, I just assumed would be regae. That's fair. So does Annie in nineteen eighty two, The Plowman's Lunch in eighty three, Blue Money in eighty five, then Legend in eighty five, the same year as Clue. He does Clue and Legend back to back. I can't imagine Clue had a very exhausting production schedule. So The Worst Witch in nineteen eighty six, which is something something. Halloween some that nearly killed you when I was like, oh, yeah, I saw my clip something something Hallo. We're making a joke of anything can happen on Halloween from the Worst Switch. If you're not following, Yeah. We were at a movie marathon, all right, horror marathon for Halloween, and that clip was shown where it looks like he's basically on cable access. It's bad singing a music video.
32:04 It is very dated, but very fun. Sy I enjoyed it, so it is pasted them in nineteen eighty seven, The Tracy Almond Show in eighty nine, The Easter Story in eighty nine, Wisely The Hunter around October, Tiny toon Adventures, then he does it in nineteen ninety You've Never Heard of It, Oscar in ninety one, Tom and Jerry Kids Show in ninety one, Passed Away in ninety two, Ferngulli The Last Rainforest in ninety two, Batman the animated series in ninety two, Home Alone two, Loss in New York. Loaded Weapon Now excuse mean, National Lampoons, Loaded Weapon in ninety three, Oh, Loaded Weapon one, National Lampoons Loaded Weapon one in ninety. Three, Loaded Weapon Part one. Roseanne in ninety three. Tails from the Crip in ninety three, The Three Musketeers in ninety three, The Shadow Ah, Real Monsters Earth two, Congo Pebble Won, the Penguin in ninety five, Gargoyles but a Treasure Island, Titanic, Freakazoid, The Mask Series, Duck Duckman, and then Adam Sandler Reunion in ninety eight as well.
32:54 I actually kind of liked his go most his. The directive video Adam Stanley movie is a lot of fun. Actually, well that one was meant to be basically a pilot. Yeah to do, and I really I love the New Atoms Family. Was it pre or post New Adams Family? Pre? Is it pre? Okay? Oh? And a fun side note about Adams Family Reunion shot in South Africa during apartheid, No shit, one of many many guys were shot, especially like that's when Ernest went to Africa. That was shortly after Corman had left Africa. But there were a lot of productions being made in like what was post apartheid South Africa. It was a lot of people had a lot to say about filming in Africa at that South Africa at that time. But yeah, they did that in South Africa and it was a lot of fun. But yeh, no, the New Adams Family, which was shot in some place far more terrifying, no than South apartheid Africa. Where was that, Canada?
33:50 Oh God, yeah, terrifying. Pass all right, Moving on down to our cast, we have Eileen Brennan, who plays Missus Peacock one hundred and twenty seven credits on her resume, starting in the nineteen sixty with The Ed Sullivan Ship Does a Divorce American Style in sixty seven, Rowan and Martin's Laughing in sixty eight, All in the Family in seventy two, McMillan and wife Scarecrow, The Blue Knight, The Sting in seventy three, Daisy Miller The Night That Panicked America in seventy five, Barnaby Jones Kojack Murder by Death FM with Martin Bull in seventy eight, Oh yeah h The Cheap Detective in seventy eight, Black Beauty, Private Benjamin probably one of her most famous roles, where she plays the really hard ass drill instructor in that movie, then the Private Benjamin TV series as well in eighty one, Taxi in eighty one, Pandemonium in eighty two. The Love Boat then does Clue in eighty five, Babes and Toyland in eighty six, Rented Lips in eighty seven, Magnum p I The New Adventures of Hippy Longstocking, New Heart Stella Texasville, Blossom in nineteen.
34:42 Ninety, I Do Love Me Some, Blossom. Thirty something in ninety one, Home Improvement in ninety two, Tails from the cryp Bobby's World Murder, she wrote Walker Texas Ranger. She was doing a lot of TV up until the time she passed. She unfortunately passed in twenty thirteen from bladder cancer at the age of eighty, but she was acting up basically until I want to say, twenty eleven. Double Career, And she's kind of one of the odd people out in this movie, yeah, because a lot of them kind of were in that comedy scene Ball and Madeline. She was fresh out of Betty Ford and she took the role for Clue. Oh wow, that was one of those one of those Yeah. But I want to mention that because I feel like she and Christopher Lloyd we're both kind of not in that in group. Yeah, like everybody else.
35:24 Just like we were saying, this is the same year that Back to the Future comes. Out, which is crazy. Yeah. Absolutely so, moving down to Madeline Conn who plays Missus White. What's Up Doc in nineteen seventy two, Gets Your Start, Harvey in seventy two, Paper Moon Blazing, Saddles in seventy four, Young Frankenson in seventy four. I forgot those two were the same year. For Brooks, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well he was very very intensely making movies at that point. At Long Last Love and seventy five, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Smarter Brother in seventy five, Once Upon a Brother's Grim in seventy eight, High Anxiety in seventy seven, The Cheap Detective in seventy eight, The Muppet Movie in seventy nine, Simon Holy Moses, History of the World Part One in eighty one, Sesame Street in eighty one, Slapstick of Another Kind in eighty two, Yellow Beard in eighty three, Scrambled Feet in eighty three, City Heat in eighty four, Then does Clue in eighty five, My Little Pony in eighty six, An American Tail in eighty six, Betsy's Wedding in nineteen ninety, for Richer orpor in ninety two, one of My All time favorite Christmas movies that is vastly underrated.
36:18 Mixed Nuts in ninety four, I do like me some Mixed Nuts. Does Nixon in ninety five, Bugs Life in ninety eight, and then unfortunately she passes in ninety nine from a very en cancer at age fifty seven. Geez, she was taking way too young. And while that is the end of the cast listing I have, that is not the end of the cast listing for this movie. Just to name a few more, we also have I excuse me, Christopher Lloyd who plays Professor Plum, Michael mckeenon who plays mister Green, Martin Mawes, Earl Mustard Leslie, and Warren is Miss Scarlett calling camp as a Yavett. Lee Ving is mister Boddy. I mean, the list goes on for this movie in regards of some cameos that pop up, and just the cast listing alone. Well not really cameos, it's the cast. The cast is just I mean, this is a full force nineteen eighties ensemble. Absolutely, Like I said, most of them were in that kind of comedy in group. Yeah, but brilliant bringing in Christopher Lloyd.
37:07 I mean, granted he had a lot of experience with comedy doing Taxi. Yeah, but brilliant bringing him in. I think bringing in Aleen Brennan was really brilliant too, because she brings a lot to that character, especially when her character later on gets to do a lot mm hm in one of the several and. One of the several endings, which I have some fun trivia about those endings by the way, Well, I don't care. So Clue is currently available on Pluto TV at this time. You can also rent or buy it if you are a physical media collector. I cannot recommend enough the four K that Shout recently just put out. I actually borrowed your copy of it and got the chicks and we just watched the print of it today and it looks phenomenal. Yeah, that four K print is gorgeous. So what was your first time watching Clue?
37:49 Well, I'm gonna go ahead and go with my first time watching the film and its entire enties definitely in school. Yeah, it was one of those a nineties kids. It was one of those wheeling the cart with the TV strap to it in because we'd all done really well, we'd done our tests. So now as a treat, we're going to watch Clue. And I had never seen it from beginning to end. I had only seen it pop up on TV. And that was where I really developed an appreciation of the film, to where if it would be on TV or whatever, I was like, oh, man, Clue is on, gotta watch it, just because of the haphazardness of the endings, the running around the mansion super fast, the farcical horror movie elements too. It's not a horror movie, but it plays with that space, a big mansion, thunderstorm outside all of that. That great line where Christopher Lloyd's where she's like, why did you stop the car? He's like, it's scared. It sees the house with the lightning and everything.
38:47 That's all great. And I'll never forget when the singing telegram scene happens and she gets interrupted by a gunshot. I just thought that was the funniest thing on the goddamn earth. I could not stop laughing like a fucking hyena. In my sixth or seventh grade it was social studies. Yeah, I could not stop laughing. It killed me. And it was also where I think I really figured out who Tim Curry was. Oddly enough, I had been exposed to Rocky Horror way before I was supposed to me. Well, yeah, I saw Rocky Horror when it aired on Fox and I and I think it had aired on MTV, VH one, one of those was airing it even before Fox did, and I remember what a big deal it was when Fox showed it. So not a huge fan. But I know you're not. I know, but I'm we're doing a show too, David. Yes, are you sure you're aware.
39:42 Of that that you're not a huge fan? Oh no, that we're doing a show. I have notes in that I prepared, damn it. But no, no, so but yeah, so they were kind of in a similar space of like, here's Tim Curry being you know whatever. And then probably shortly after that, I realized Tim Curry was Pennywise, which I didn't realize so and then also Congo, that's another favorite Tim Curry movie. It took me like five or six watches of it to realize that that was Tim Curry. Oh in uh in Penny Oh okay. I was gonna say, for a sec I thought you met. I was like, hey, looks so familiarus, Like, Dave, you need to go to the eye doctor. You're like, I also sat really close to the TV. Yeah, I was always squinting well, because.
40:23 I remember because I found I found it because it was on TV at my grandma's house when I was when I was turning into a horror fan. She and she was like, had told me it was on I'd watched it like hugging the TV like this and looking at it from the side. Then I started watching it when it was like on Sci Fi and USA, and I remember it was one time specifically that I was like, Man, where do I know that named Tim Curry from? And then Mom was like, oh, that's Frankenfurter, and my mind just fucking imploded. You know. So I saw it very young, Yeah, but never realized. But I'll tell you why because all of the road trips to New Hampshire it's fifteen hours each way. Yeah. My mother would listen to books on tape and I would sleep, be awake, goofing around whatever, and I didn't know.
41:07 All I knew was that Stephen King was scary because she would listen to his books and they would be kind of creepy, and then I'd fall asleep and miss stuff. So then years later I'm at the library and I'm like I don't want to watch a scary one, and my Mom's like, oh, you know, you should watch it, and I was like Stephen King and I was like freaked out. It was the two tapes, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, And I remember that just being mortifying. I watched the first half on a Friday night, in the second half Saturday afternoon, terrified. Oh yeah. And that's but that's how I found out who Stephen King was is. I was like, he was that creepy guy. At first, I thought he read the books because I didn't know any better, like seven, so I thought he was the creepy guy that reads the books on the tapes, and then I really know he's the guy who wrote them them and was creepy, you know.
41:54 So being the it nerd that I am, I have to ask, do you remember if it was the original VHS release that had the cover of the book on it and the actors at the bottom, or the re release with Pennywise on it. I want to say it had Pennywise on it, Yeah, but that's a memory that could be completely false. I just remember it grabbed me and a picture of a book wouldn't do anything. It's like those distributors where they were like evil when Evil Dead was get put up the Book of the Dead. Yeah, No, one's going to see that kid, Evil Dead, that's the movie. Yeah. So my first time watching Clue, it was, like I said, we played the game so much growing up, so I remember I don't know if it premiered on Comedy Central. I think it was just on Comedy Central. And immediately my mom was like, oh, man Clues on and I was watching it with her and immediately was just sucked into it because it was a murder mystery, it was fun.
42:40 I recognized a lot of actors, even if I didn't know who they were at the time, but I'd seen like Martin Bull and Sabrina and stuff like that point. So it immediately won me over. And then it just became a staple on Comedy Central. Yeah sure. And it also became a staple on Encore because I remember when we would have that free week of premium cable. They would do weekends weekend, It'd be like three day week. Yeah. I could always like basically guarantee Clue was on one of the Encore channels. Oh I remember the free weekends. Oh yeah, yeah. But no, I love the style of it, and as I got older with it, obviously I picked up a lot of the humor of that you don't get when you're a young kid. Well because basically yeah, well but it's full of sexual innuendo. Oh yeah, on stop. So so that is the first time watching. Are you ready to get into the breakdown of the film?
43:24 Ah? What the hell? At forty three minutes in, let's do it. Well, it's not there's not that much to break down. It's really not so because it's plot point PLO. I was gonna say, and I'll go ahead and say this, if you have not seen Clue, please stop the podcast, now watch it and then come back to us. Because what you had thirty eight years, you had thirty eight years. What we're gonna say is a spoiler, yes, but also the dialogue in this movie is what makes the movie so. Yeah, I mean, we can't capture that. Everything, like the gags and everything. I mean, there's so much to it. So we open with a shot of a sky and we hear the wonderful John Moore's score of Clue kick up, and we watch a black car approach the gate to the man as we meet Wadsworth who is played by Tim Curry. Arriving at the mansion. He goes up to the door, throws the guard dogs to meat to get them off, and then he enters and greets.
44:07 The events off him. Get them off him? Oh yeah, get them off. That's I was trying to help. That's fair. That was where's it? Where is it? Where's it? Please? No, David trying to help too late? Do you Even? Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to do you Even movie? So then he enters and he greets Yvette, the maid, and he also goes to see the cook, and that's when we see Colonel Mustard played by Martin Bull arrive. At least that's the alias that they're giving him for tonight, because no one is allowed to know each other's names.
44:49 And no real names, just code words. Code words and aliases only. So then that is followed by Missus White, who is hinted at already being familiar with Yvette because we walk in and she kind of gives her a side eyes, So immediately we know that there's some tension going on with these people. Well, they're all, as far as we know, strangers, yes, which is the most classic element of any murder mystery or any people gathered in one place is who secretly knows each other? Yeah, and that's and there's always the conspiracy, the worry of conspiracy. It goes without saying that this is a huge homage to the Agatha Christie novels and films. You don't say crazy, Well, I think the game was Oh yeah, was absolutely. Yeah, So down the road a bit. We also meet Miss Scarlet as her car is broken down. She is picked up by Professor Plumb and they realize that they both have an invitation to the Hill House that is addressed to them separate with blackmail tailed to it. They are going to be invited to this dinner to have an unveiling, which we'll get to here shortly as we meet mister Green who arrives as well, and shortly after that, Scarlet and Plumb arrive, and shortly dinner has served as Miss Peacock arrives and Wadworth the signs every one a seat.
45:55 As they sit down to the dinner, Miss Peacock begins to dominate the conversation a bit, like she's talking about everything and making them like go cross side. Yeah, I bit, yeah, she's definitely one of those old broads, just yap yap, yap ye. Yeah yeah, And she even comments on one of the dishes that they're serving as one of her favorites, which we'll get to later on in the story. Well, there's a lot of hints. All right, you don't say, I see what you're doing? Do you no good? So they all sit down to dinner, and that is when we also find out that Plumb speaks for working for the World Health Organization. Scarlet reveals that she and Colonel Mustard also live in the DC area, and this leads Green to question if anybody else works for the government. Shortly, the bell sounds at the door and we meet mister Body, who may or may not be the host of this evening, and he questions what everyone is doing here. Mister Body played by the Great Leaving, the lead singer of Fear By the way I knew it.
46:48 I recognize that name. Yeah, have you seen her? Have you seen the Decline of Western Civilization documentary? No? Oh, man, I need to show you that because the Fear performance at the end is fucking nuts. Do they still love living in the city? I still love living the city? And also he he opens his show by basically just insulting all the crowd for coming to the show. Don Rickols did it first. That's true, That's very true. So missus Peacock questions why they all have been summoned, and Wadsworth reveals a letter that they all received inviting them for an evening where secrets will be revealed, but mister Body states that he didn't receive the same letter. Moving into the lounge, Wadsworth opens an envelope stating that he can reveal the reason for the evening, and Body tries to escape. He goes to the front door and Wadsworth tells him's locked. He goes to the side and tries to break a window, but the dog starts barking, and he's like, you know, we have to play this out as it goes right now.
47:34 And that's what he's getting out. No, that's when he reveals that everyone is attending is being blackmailed, but no one knows who it is by. Well, these are all very kindly white people who live around Washington, d C. And they work in government. I can't imagine get into any trouble or even or no, no, no there are David. I just need you to understand this. This is for you all listening, because I'm your style guide, I'm your life coach. If a politician tells you anything, don't worry. They love you right, and they will take care of you. They'll give you just what you need, good and hard.
48:22 That's fucking facts. Okay. So just remember that anybody who's like vote for me so I can have a bunch of power and money. They love you. They would never lie to you in a million years ever. So if you are all of a sudden like, man, I just love this politician, you're right. You're not an idiot. You're not an income poop. And also side note bonus in vote, oh god, bonus. When they say it's the most important election that's ever happened in Christ, it's true. It's very true, every time, every time. They say it, every time every two years. No, not every it's mid midterms, baby, They're just as important according to the people. Anyway.
49:05 We digress, so plum dis Yeah, you digress. Plumb lost his license to his practice due to having affairs with the client. Peacock has been taking bribes for her senator husband's campaign, but she also denies that Miss Scarlett is being blackmailed for running both a sex hotline and a brothel. Well, I have to say, diversified, diversified, diversify, Where's Ray Kroc right franchise. Wadsworth suspects Colonel Mustard of doing dirty business, creating extra funds allowing him to drive the nice car and live the life that he does, and he denies that. Oh, he says his mommy and daddy died and left of money. Yep, White is scorned a lover who tried to kill her, try to kill her second husband, try to kill her first husband, but he ended up dying on his own.
49:47 Apparently second husband disappeared and was never found. And that is also the second of five husbands. Yeah, she's got a bit of a black widow thing going that she does. And then we also find out that her most latest husband was in instead found decapitated and castrated. Well, that's a hell of a thing. And the second husband, as I mentioned, disappeared and foul play was suspected. Mister Green then takes the opportunity to declare that he works for the State Department and is a homosexual, and he has no shame. I do love that he just volunteers all the things that you would that you could be Yeah, you could be blackmailed for I think that's very funny. It's like somebody's threatening to leak your nudes, so you post them, yeah, and then you're like your move creep. And the one thing that I'll say about Green too is he repeats through this movie that he didn't do it every time, I just do it on his hands.
50:33 Literally, Oh yeah, there's blood on your hands. I didn't do it, so, leaving Body to unveil that he is the blackmailer, which causes Mustard to confront him, but it's quickly dropped because he goes to fight Body. Body fights him off, and then Body is kneading the balls by missus White. Well, it seems like a move she's familiar with. This is very true, Wadsworth that unveils the police have been called and they will be there to arrest him within forty five minutes. Mister Body states that it won't be that easy, and he goes to retrieve his bag from the hall, which he states the contents will help make the make up their minds in regards to how the evening's going to go, opening it to reveal black Gift boxes wrapped in a purple ribbon. He instructs the group to open them, revealing that Scarlett has a candlestick, Missus White has a rope with a noose on the end, Mister Green has a lead pipe, Mister Colonel Mustard has a wrench, Plumb has a revolver, and Peacock has a knife.
51:22 Yeah, so all of the origin I think that's all all of them, the real pieces. Yeah, that you try to solve the clue mystery with. Yep. So mister Body states that if they denounce him to the police, they will also be exposed, but if one of them kills Wadsworth right now, they will all be protected. So since he has the key to the front door, it seems like the wisest decision to do. I like the idea that the police are forty five minutes away. Fun fact they are in regards of the time code of the film, they arrive at forty five minute mark. Really yeah, from that point of him saying that they arrive right on. The mark, I just think it's funny that it's like so specific. It's like we know they'll be here in forty forty five minutes. Usually you live within twenty of a police station. But maybe it's like ordering a pizza on the weekend.
52:02 It's just so busy, so busy. So they go to the lounge. Body shuts the door. He turns off the lights, instructing them the kill. We hear a thump, then a gunshot. The lights come up, and body lays dead on the ground. Mister Body is now a body. Peacock accuses Plum of shooting him since he had the gun, but they see that body wasn't killed by a gunshot, as no bullet is found on him, but the bullet is found in the wall. Peacock then goes to get a drink and Plump suggests, well, maybe it was poisoned. So then she screams frantically and drops the glass. Yeah, and then that's when mister Green goes over and slaps her, saying that she was frantic. She was screaming. I had to do something. I had to calm her down, which becomes a thing. They call back to the film. Suddenly, then a scream echoes as they all run out to the Billiard's room, finding Yvett, who is upset being locked in with a murderer, revealing that she was listening to the whole conversation on a recording.
52:50 Plus she drank the cognac as well. You Vet upset, You Vett is upset. They offer to have her join them as they go back into the lounge, and that's when Wadsworth reveals that he is not the butler of the mansion. He was actually mister Boddy's former butler, and he is the one that originally wrote the letters as well. Yeah, he's the one who conspired to free all of these people of their blackmail. He intended to expose mister Body for the blackmail and then everybody could get their blackmail material back and be set free. Yes, because he's such a good guy. Such a good guy, good old tim Kurky, good old Timmy Curry, explaining he was once his butler, but employment ended when his wife, who was also being blackmail by mister Body, took her own life. He states that Body felt everyone was un American with their practices, that they have been called out for their blackmail, even his wife with her socialist friends, and he wanted to put Body behind bars and free every one of the blackmail. Wadsworth in states that they have to find out who the killer is before the police arrive, and they also then realize that the cook is still in the house and no one has seen her in a bit, so they raced to the kitchen and at first there's no sign of her. Mister Green goes, oh, she's not here, and then her dead body falls out into mister Green's arms, stuck in the freezer with a knife.
53:55 In her back. Now that's timing. That is timing, indeed, and that's also when he has blood on his hands. Yeah, so that's when they realized the cook has now been killed. So Mustard demands an explanation from Wadsworth, and he has none. He then points the finger at missus White, asking about how many husbands, and that's when she states that she has five. But Peacock was the one that had the dagger when the cook was killed, and they put it down in the study and she can't recall when that happened though, So the knife has now been found, but also we don't know who had it last. Wadsworth suggests that they take the cook's body to the study, and they returned to find mister Body's body is no longer there. Mister Body's body is gone. Maybe he wasn't quite so dead.
54:35 He may not have been a body. Oh I should have been ready for this. Oh maybe he wasn't so dead. That was really loud dead body after all. So they sorry about deafening everybody. They go to search for it, and Green states that he couldn't have been dead and also suspects body killed the cook, but they questioned how. Scarlett then finds negatives that lead to the blackmail of Mustard, which also concerns her. So she sees something in the photo that ties her into negatives. Photo for our Zoomer and Jen alpha listeners for which there may be a half a one few. Well you know.
55:18 A negative, Well, negative is when a when you take film photos like the hipsters do, yes, and it's developed, but it's not printed on paper yet. No, that's the actual photograph that was taken in the camera after it was developed. That's a negative. And they're also extremely flammable. I mean maybe, well, I don't know. I think they switched away from silver nitrate film in the fifties, fifties or maybe it's the sixties. I'd have to I'd have to look it up. Or just watching Glorious bast. Do we get a date for clue. Now to think about it, No, I think that was on purpose, Okay, yeah, I mean because, if anything, everything in that house is a little old. Yeah, I mean they have a rotary phone. Everything's old in that place.
55:59 So I think that was on purpose. So she finds the negatives that tie her into Mustard's case as well. So Peacock going to the bathroom then finds Body's dead body as he falls out onto her, and we see that he also now has a wound on his head, which is made clear as Wadsworth, standing by the door of the bathroom is then hit by the candlestick that's stuck on top of the door, knocking him out. And that's when the group moves all the corpses to the study in a very hilarious scene because they try to get the cook on the couch. She is a heavy woman. They struggle with that. They try to get a body onto the couch and then I think it's Plumb is sitting between the two of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Professor Plum is stuck between the two between the two of them, and he's trying to act like he's comfortable. We're trying to act. Yeah, So Mustard questions who had access to the candlestick, and they realize that everyone did, and that's when Wadworth suggests that they put the rest of the weapons in the cabinet and lock it. The group doesn't trust him though, with the key, so he goes to throw it out, opening the door to reveal that a motorist has broken down and he would like to use a phone to call a tow truck, so they confer for a bit before inviting him into the mansion.
56:57 All smiles, trying to make sure everything's okay and put on a. Everything's good, buddy, come on in. And that's when Wadsworth instructs him that there is a phone in the lounge, which he shows him, asking him to wait here, and the lock clicks as they shut the door. Wadsworth then returns to the front door, chucking the cabinet key outside for all to see. Missus White request to leave, but Wadsworth states that no one can leave until they solve the mystery of who is actually doing this, so they return to the study. They all have a. Drink, which is one of my favorite Martin maulgags of the entire film because he goes I think I want a whiskey anybody else? And then he has three glasses that he just topples the whiskey out. He's just throwing it on to the top of the cups. So Wadsworth is in question by Colonel Mustard if anybody else is in the house, and that also leads to another hilarious scene that I wish I could remember some of the dialogue of. But it's just Tim Curry and Martin Maull going at it for like a solid couple minutes of him not giving him a straight answer.
57:46 Yeah, no, it's a brilliant Yeah, I really enjoyed it. So that's when White wants to get the man out of the house, but Peacock becomes hysterical wants more, and Colonel Mustard finally gets a note from Wadsworth that no one else is in the house, so then he suggests, in military fashion, that they split up in the pairs and search the house. This makes missus Peacock nervous because clearly somebody will be paired with the murderer. Yeah, someone will be alone. Colonel Mustard then says, well, that make it easier to find out who the murderer. Yeah, you know that's winning through attrition. This is true. You know, all you have to do is is put somebody alone, and when they turn up dead, you have a murderer. You're basically playing among us. Yeah, among us before among them us before among us, look at you.
58:28 So Wadsworth cuts the matchsticks for the group to draw and get paired. We see Wadsworth gets paired with missus White, Professor Plum gets paired with Missus Peacock, Mister Green gets paired with your vet. Colonel Muster gets paired with miss Scarlett, and that's when they break off the search. Different areas of the house and another hilarious scene because one of my favorites is you have Scarlet and Mustard the bottom of the steps looking up at the attic and they're like, you go you. Want to go ahead of meat? Yeah, absolutely not. So we have many many gags when you say gags throughout, and that is when we also see that everyone is very suspect of one another, but overall they turn up no results. Outside, we see the man's broken down vehicle as now being noticed by a cop as he's driving pass back in the house, though a gloved hand comes into the screen and we see that it's gathering up all the blackmail and throwing it into the fire.
59:15 Uh oh h. And I and the black gloves being introduced to something I really liked? Do you like that? Yeah? So it unlocks the weapons cabinet as well, grabbing the wrench. The man is on the phone speaking to someone, revealing that one of the guests appears to be his old boss, but the conversation is cut short as the fireplace in the room spins, revealing a secret passageway. The killer comes out and takes one blow to the man's head, killing him badoom. So in the conservatory, Scarlett and Colonel Mustard discover a secret passage. They follow it into the lounge, discovering the body of the motorists. Missus. Scarlett screams out, drawing attention to the rest of the group as they all race downstairs, not before colliding with all with everybody so they all fall right before they make it. To the stairs. Ashes, ashes, they all fall.
59:55 So then we get to another hilarious scene as they go to the lounge door and they find it locked. The key is missing, and that's when Wadsworth decides to try and break down. He runs at the door and the door completely does not go and he gets thrown back. A solid moment of physical comedy for Tim Curry, because. They're like, let us in, let us in, let us out, let us out. So that's when Yvette gets the idea. So she runs into the lounge, going to the cabinet, she grabs the gun, she trips, one shot, hits the chandelier, and then she gets one hole through the bullet, unlocking it. But it's hilarious because Martin Maull as Colonel Mustard, does I've been hit? Well, he is hit. He's like grazed by the bullet. I thought it was impressive that Yavett not only is shooting a lock open, but she does it from like fifteen feet away, Yeah, which requires a lot of evaccuracy. Yeah, as opposed to I would just walk up and like shoot it nearly point blank. Yeah, that's just me.
1:00:44 That is one of my favorite things that I miss about MythBusters. They used to test movie miss with locks and guns, and one of the ones that I remember specifically is the final scene in Big Trouble Little China when they're shooting all the locks off those prisons. You can't do that, well, maybe you can't you want to try? Yes? Okay, well now got it. Now we got a plan. All right, Do you Even? Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie. So the chandelier falls right behind Colonel Mustard. He steps out right before it hits him, and that's when the question how Yvett got the gun as she reveals it was unlocked, so missus Peacock has immediately suspected her, and the bell sounds again as mister Green goes to open the door, revealing the police officer is there now, questioning about the motorists and asking if he came to the house.
1:01:39 The group states no, but mister Green states yes. That's when the officer is like, uh, there's there something going on, like y'all are a little unsure, like do you mind if I come in and look around? So immediately they are suspect, but they also have to let him in, So that's when Wadsworth offers up the library, looking, locking the cop behind the door. The phone rings in the library as the cop goes to answer it, revealing that there's a call from j Edgar Hoover on the other. A little suspect, a little suspect. Wait, when jag or Hoover that shit will make Yeah, and then you think about that, you keep talking, I'm gonna look that up. Sounds good, so he also questions why they locked him in. Scarlett then tells the cop that they're having a party and offers mister Green to show him around the house. Green shows him the safe rooms, but the cop obviously wants to see the study in the lounge, and that's when Green tries to stop him. The cop then enters and we see miss Scarlett is fake making out with a dead body of mister body. We also see that Colonel Mustard is dancing with the dead cook as Yvette is behind her making her dance, so the cop is not suspect at all. He even goes to the other room, where the motorist has now been made to look like he's drunk. The cop is satisfied. He goes to speak to Wadsworth, who tries to tell him that he apologizes for the state of the house, thinking that he's seen the bodies, but the cop assures him everything's okay. You know your Americans having a good time. There's nothing wrong with that.
1:02:47 Jag or Hoover, Yeah, was no longer the head of the FBI in May of nineteen seventy two when he died. Okay, so that means that this is probably the sixth sixties. Yeah. Also, there's that moment where she calls him one a beat neck beat nick Yeah yeah, yeah. So that's when the cop assures him everything is okay, but he does ask he used the phone. The cop is then locked in the library again and they resume the search of the house. We then watch a gloved hand killer kill the power to the house. As the group gets spooked. Yvett makes her way downstairs, entering the billiard's room as a voice ask her or tells her to shut the door and ask her if anybody recognized her, and she says she thinks that somebody did, but she's also lost her accent by this point. Yeah that's because I mean, we were all buying that action. Yeah, I mean, who even noticed she was talking half the time?
1:03:30 She loses her accent and states maybe, but suddenly the rope is wrapped around her neck as she is strangled. The cop is suspicious, but he does not see the killer sneaking behind him, striking him with the lead pipe. The bell sounds once again as a singing telegram. Girl starts her song, which is I Am a Singing Telegram and then bang. Drops her down, young twelve year old me Hei the humor, oh yeah, could not laugh hard enough at that, so drops dead. The door is shut, the lights come back up, and the group meet in the entryway, finding Yvette's body, which surprises no one, no reaction at all. Yeah, at this point they've all had their film. Yeah. They then moved to the library, finding the cop dead. No shock, still no none, and then they also recall that the doorbell rang, going to the door to find the body of the girl. Realizing that now six murders have occurred in this evening.
1:04:15 Well that's uh, that's more than five murders day, more than five murders. So Wadsworth reveals now that he knows all who did it, and he goes through the evening events to explain what happened. As he leaves the group through the house, one of the most hilarious sequences of the film. As we get to the wrap up of it, Tim Curry is running around the house acting out all the events as they happen. It's like he's pitching a screenplay. Yeah, it's like that's when the run. It's one of my favorite parts of the movie, the music cues. How excited it made me as a viewer, Yeah, because you're like, well, well look, because they're revealing the juicy, juicy details of it. So it's great that it just it. I mean literally, when we were rewatching it today, there's a part where when they're running through where it's just a shot of all their feet running through the hall, and I was just like, it's so much, so fun.
1:05:01 And one of my favorite moments of this whole entire segment is mister Green just becomes the victim for every example. That Yah Wadsworth picks out. Yeah, to the point where he throws him down and he's like, will you stop pushing me? No oh, then shoves him into. The if she shoves him. Yeah, that's so good, so good. So that's when he reveals the multiple secret passages through the house, also stating that the house belongs to a friend. So this is where we get to the three endings of the film, which we have the how It Could Have Happened ending, which is that Yvett murdered the cook and body under the orders for miss Scarlett, who then killed her husband and the other victims, intending to sell the guest secrets. Scarlett prepares to use the revolver to kill Wadsworth, who argues that there are no bullets left after disarming her, just as law enforcement raid the manner and the evangelist is revealed to be a chief of police.
1:05:43 That's one thing I forgot is when they are doing the wrap up, they go to the door because it sounds again, and there's an evangelist there who's like, you know, eternity's on its way. You know here the end of times is near. Repent for your soul. And they're all like, you know, it's already here. Yeah, that's already here. That she's like, he's like, your souls are a dangerous Our lives are in danger. So that's when the chief police is revealed to be the evangelist, and Wadsworth's further reveals he is an undercover FBI agent before accidentally firing the last bullet and the revolver as the chandelier crashes right behind Mustard as it falls. The second time that a chandelier falls and scares the hell out of it. So that's the how it could have happened ending, because at the end of the movie we get these cards that say, oh, that's how it could have happened. Also, this way a movie, so nice, we end it Thrice Rice, So.
1:06:26 This is the how about this ending. Peacock killed all the victims to prevent her exposure for taking bribes from foreign powers, before holding the others at gunpoint to escape to the others. Confused with relief, Wadsworth reveals he is an undercover FBI agent again. Peacock is arrested outside the house before law enforcement raids the Manners, and the evangelist is revealed once again to be the chief of police. That phone call from Jaeger Hoover, what's me? So that's when we get to the how it really happened, And apart from Green, everyone committed one murder in the film. Yes, Peacock killed the cook, Plumb killed mister Body, Mustard killed the motorists, Scarlet killed the cop up, White killed Yavett, and Wadsworth killed the singing Telegram. Holding the guests at gunpoint, Wadsworth then reveals that he is the real mister Body, Plumb killed the real butler and announces his intent to continue blackmailing them until Green draws his own revolver and shoots him to where Tim Curry goes great shot, falling down holding his arm once again, it goes against the wall and then goes very good shot.
1:07:22 Yeah, well, he puts his hand at the wound, sees how much it's bleeding, and then it's like, very good shot and the dice, Yeah it's it's I feel like it might have been an inspiration for Paul Rubens and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yeah, way he died. It was so good. So mister Green further reveals he is an undercover FBI agent sent to investigate body before letting in law enforcement and the evangelist who was the chief of police. And that's when you know, he's like, who's guilty, and everybody tries to argue, and that's when mister Green says, they're all guilty. Everybody did it here. I'm gonna go home and sleep with my wife. Thank god he's not actually gang. So that is the end of nineteen eighty five's clue. Well, that's the third end, the third ending, the final ending. Yes, well is anything truly? Is anything truly ending? So as we begin to wrap up the show. I've already told you this off, Mike, But what do you think the budget was?
1:08:12 Well, you told me it was fifteen million. It is correct, so I'm gonna guess twenty eight million. Twenty eight million is incorrect. It was fifteen million. Ah, did I go over? You went over? Damn it. So opening weekend, which is December thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, this gets released like two weeks before Christmas. Perfect for Christmas. Yeah, murder, Murder. It makes two million, fourteen and one hundred and sixty six dollars. Well, that's opening weekend. Then gross it takes in fourteen million. It's a flo it's a fly. So it was shot in Los Angeles, Hollywood, Pasadena, California. The Max Bush House, the mansion used for the exterior in ballroom scenes, was destroyed by a massive fire on October fifth of two thousand and five. After the fire, several people left flowers on the front gate and even shed tears evidence of how much the house was cherished by local community.
1:08:59 Oh wow, Yeah, so the. House unfortunately met its de mice in two thousand and five. The first we figure out who did it? We did not figure out who did it? Oh, that is one thing before we wrap up the Oh yeah, yeah, we already did it. Ye is he goes, you know who killed Wadsworth and he's like I did in the Hall with the revolver. That's pretty good, pretty great. Yeah. The first movie based on a board game, The board game Cludo, was originally published by Waddington's in the United Kingdom in nineteen forty nine, followed soon after the American version with its better known title. It quickly became one of the world's most popular board games, eventually selling more than one hundred million units and earning an excess of one billion dollars. What the fuck is a Cludo? I don't know. I'm just saying because it said it started in England. Yeah, they speak English in England. Cludo Cludo. Well, it just sounds like somebody's saying my last name wrong? Is heinrich Cludo?
1:09:50 You know that's my life, man, that's my goddamn life. Producer Deborah Hill, Yes Kids, Deborah Hill of Halloween Fame. Yes, Deborah Hill longtime partner John Carpenter both in life and in film for quite a while, but she had her own career after they split up. She absolutely did so. Producer Deborah Hill initially acquired the rights to adapt the game from Parker Brothers and intended to distribute through Universal Pictures. As early as nineteen eighty one, Hill mentioned plans to adapt the game into a movie, with P. D. James reported to be writing the screenplay with multiple endings. Do you know who the heck? P D. James is? The name sounds familiar. Who is the I don't know. I was asking my research. Sure, yes, was it P D. James? P D. James? Yeah, you just you just hurt me. Public display James, Public Display James, P D. James. I don't think this is the right person. Oh, English novelist.
1:10:42 I bet it's the right person then, yeah. Okay, yeah. She was an English novelist who died in twenty fourteen. I think I've read one of her books actually, now, now that I think about it. Cover your face or cover her face rather. She worked for the BBC Film and Television. Yeah. I wrote a bunch of stuff that would have been an interesting call for origin British. Children of Men. That's where I know her from. Aha, that makes sense, children of Men? Yep, okay. The multiple endings were developed by John Landis, who had initially been set to direct, and who claimed in an interview to have invited playwright Tom Stoppard, writer and composer Stephen Sondheim, and actor Anthony Perkins to write the screenplay. The script was ultimately finished by Jonathan Lynn, who was invited to direct as a result. That is a quite the gaggle of people.
1:11:25 Yeah, oh, just wait till we get to who almost was in this. There was actually a fourth ending scripted and shot in which Wadsworth committed all the murders out of a twisted need for perfection in his life. He reveals that he poisoned everyone with a slow acting toxin in their drinks. It ended with Wadsworth being killed by dogs as he attempted to escape by car from the house. The rather grim nature of the ending is probably why it was never released. It was never shown because filmmakers thought the ending would have been too obvious. It only survives in the novelization and the story book, which features a single photo from that ending, the chief punching Wadsworth in the stomach. Jeez, that is dark. In ending B, where. It's revealed Missus Peacock murder all six people. It was revealed that she was actually shot dead by Chief of Police when he confronts her at the car after saying, Wadsworth, we got her. The Chief then turns to missus Peacock's dead body and shoots her again. This is deemed too dark, and Eileen Brennan recorded a new line, saying, take your hands off me.
1:12:15 I'm the senator her twice yes, Jesus. This changes Peacock's outcome, so she is arrested instead of shot. However, part of the rejected sequence remains in the movie. After the police run to Missus Peacock to arrest her, you can see smoke in the air from the Chief's revolver and you absolutely yes, as it had been fired recently. In the narrative, this could be interpreted as the gun misfired. I guess I. If I were doing it, I would have edited like I would have cut in a shot of like, I don't know, like a bush getting hit by the bullet or something, so that it's like he's shot near her. She's like, okay, okay, but uh, it's hilarious knowing that when you watch it, Oh yeah, you can very obvious. You can tell the movie was one of several movies, mostly comedies, made him release between the mid seventies and mid nineteen eighties that revived the old dark house mansion movie.
1:13:01 The others included Haunted Honeymoon from nineteen eighty six, highly recommended. I love Haunted honey I watched it again finally. Oh it's about damn Tom. Sorry, Prick. I love Gene Wilder, Lose the cap. I don't know why that movie didn't hit with me as well. That ending is still so good anyway. Hant Honeymoon in ninteen eighty six, Murdered by Death in nineteen seventy six, The Spiral Staircase in seventy five, The Private Eyes in nineteen eighty, The Cat and the Canary in seventy eight, House of Long Shadows in eighty three, and blood Bath at the House of Death in nineteen eighty four. That's a classic. But what about House by the Cemetery? That's not in there because it's not really a haunted house, not per se. According to writer and director Jonathan Lynn, they started shooting all scenes in chronological order, but soon got behind on schedule and were then obliged changes tactics and shoot of all scenes set in the same room in a row.
1:13:45 By the end of the shoot they were filming every scene set in the hallway in a row, which could get quite confusing for the actors. Luckily, lenn himself knew the screenplay by heart and also had a very good lady in charge of continuity. I was about to say, Crime a River, fifteen million dollar budget. You have one person whose job is only continuity, Yeah, and one person whose only jobs making notes in the script. Yeah, it'll be Oh, it's so hard making a movie the way literally all other movies are made. All movies are shot out of sequence. Yeah. Basically three endings were shot in a different one shown at each theater. All three are included on video. The DVD, however, aside from all three endings, also offers the option to play the movie one randomly selected ending. In some cities, the newspaper print ads indicated which version ending A ending B or ending C was shown at each theater.
1:14:29 Oh that's interesting. The line communist was just a red herring is said in all three endings, twice by Wadsworth and once by miss Scarlett. Not only is it a pun, particularly after World War II and the Russian communists were frequently called reds. For example, the anti communist slogan better dead than red, but it cleverly revels refers to the mcguffin or a real red herring implemented by the screenwriters, because none of the murder's motives ended up having anything to do with creating political conspiracy. Yeah, that's true. There are various visual red herrings on screens, such as hammer and sickle on the shelf besides the torch Colonel Mustard finds, and a bust of Lenin in the attic. I remember the Lenin bust? Yeah? Do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even?
1:15:17 Movie? And the final ending is if the final ending is considered the true ending, given that Wadsworth pretends to be the butler for the majority of the movie, then in fact the butler did it. That's true, you boys. It never occurs to the characters that outsiders being able to arrive at the house unimpeded means the dogs, for whatever reason, are no longer there to have an obstacle for escape. They're probably just taking a nap, a nice doggy nap. Wadsworth's joke at The ending b about j Agar Hoover cleaning up messes could be lost on some people who are not aware that despite being founded in Ohio, the Hoover Company established a major base of operations in the UK and became so synonymous with vacuums that hoover is the British term for vacuum cleaner and cleaning hoovers. Were very popular in the Americas as well.
1:15:57 Yeah, the Paramount Pictures logo of the era scene at the end of the movie is a rare instance where it displayed in black and white. That's just a well that is that is the definition of trivia. Yeah. The decora of the house includes portraits of Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, and William McKinley, all of whom were murdered. Mmmmm, I like that. Leaving. Mister Body is the front man of punk rock band Fear and was chosen because of his name. Mister Body will be leaving soon. No, that's pretty good. Madeline con short flames on the side of my face monologue about her hatred for Yevet and the French Maid was ad libbed. Oh, that's one of the best ad libs of the film. Because you can almost see mal breaking behind her.
1:16:38 She's just describing hating somebody so much. She's like flames, holding her hands to the side of red flames. It was like flames. It's so funny. The lead pipe isn't made of lead, it is steel coated with zinc. A lead pipe is so soft it can barely hold its own shape and cannot be threaded as seen in this movie. However, since this is a fictional movie based on a board game, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. According to an. Interview with writer and director Jonathan Lynn after a screen eating of the twenty fifth anniversary on the movie's release, Carrie Fisher was originally cast as Miss Scarlett until she ended up in rehab for drug addiction. Four days before filming started. Fisher called Lynn and agreed to do a work for a low which received approval of her is that Clintsony clinicians clinician I don't even know enter producers, but was detowed by the production insurance company, forcing Lynn to dismiss her from the project. Leslie and Warren was cast as a last minute replacement clinicians clinicians. I was right.
1:17:27 The entire house is a set, except for the ballroom, which was shot on location at a mansion in Pasadena, California. The main set was then bought by Aaron Spelling, who used it as the Carlton Hotel on Dynasty. Oh that's really cool. Yeah, okay. Between takes on the set, some of the actors would play pool in the billiards room. Leslie and Warren could not partake in these activities because she wore an extremely tight corset that restricted her movement. Between takes, she would find places to lean on and rest. Mean anything for art yep. The movie came out the same year as Back to the Future of nineteen eighty five. This means Christopher Lloyd in the same year of ninety to e five star in two films set about thirty years early in the mid nineteen fifties, both taking place at a site with the word hill in the name Hillhouse and Hill Valley, respectively, and both having a thunderstorm during the date of their climatic events June ninth, nineteen fifty four and November twelve, nineteen fifty five.
1:18:12 Where'd they get the date June ninth, nineteen fifty four. That that's the trivia? Okay, I mean, who am I to judge? The Singing Telegram Girl was played by Gene Wheelden, best known as the rhythm guitarist for The Go. Gos Okay, Yeah all Right. An interview conducted in two thousand and nine, November two thousand and nine, writer and director Jonathan Lynn stated that he had cast this movie, and he had said that while actors and actresses were recommended to him via the casting department, he made the final decisions. His original choice for Wadsworth was Leonard Rossiter, most famous for his role as Rigsby and Rising Damp in nineteen seventy four, but he had sadly passed away in eight nineteen eighty four, just prior to pre production. He was also followed by Rowan Atkinson, who was well known for Britain in his roles at Not the Nine o'clock News in black Adder, but the studio felt that he was too unknown to American audiences to be leading actress.
1:18:56 Mister Bean Yeah was two almost owned. Was almost Wadsworth. Ironically, Atkinson went to huge success with his character mister Bean in nineteen ninety in America. Several years later. Jonathan Lynn had known Tim Curry since they were teenagers and personally asked him to be in this movie. Well, I mean, Rowan Atkinson would have been an interesting choice, absolutely, but he would have played it. I think maybe a bit too dry, I could see that, Yeah, a little bit too British, even though they're both British. I'm pretty sure. Jennifer Jason Lee, Demi Moore, and Madonna were considered for the role of the Buxom French made Javette, eager to earn the part, calling Camp went to her audition in a low cut, French made costume showing a lot of cleavage. In a twenty thirteen BuzzFeed retrospective, writer and director Jonathan Lynn admitted that although he was impressed with Camp's comedic acting skills, it was her well endowed figure that ultimately convinced him there was no avoiding it.
1:19:42 Yeah, I mean if you haven't seen the film, yeah, then you don't know. And lastly, John Cleece was considered for the role of Wadsworth as well. That would have been horrible, I would not So what are your final thoughts on nineteen eighty five's Clue? You know, fuck, It's It's tough because I really love the movie, and it has a broad appeal. So I'm gonna say buy it. I'm gonna give it a buy it because you could watch it with your kids, you can watch it with your teenagers, you can watch it on a date, you can watch it anytime. It's very funny. It's a great way to appreciate many very, very brilliant comedic minds who are no longer with us. And that's only going to be more true as every day passes.
1:20:26 So I mean being able to see Martin mull in his prime, being able to see I'm sorry, Medling, Madeline Cohn in her prime. Yeah, it's well she was maybe I don't know if she was in her prime, but you know what I mean. Yeah, Tim Curry in is probably it's it's a special experience. So I think that if you're a movie lover, which if you're not a movie lover, I don't know why the hell you listen to the show, I think it's a by it. Yeah, I think you should own it should be in your personal library. I would agree with that. It's a buy it for me as well. I think it's a very It's probably the most fun of the Mansion Murder mystery movies. For one, the ensemble is fantastic, the score is great, and the movie flies by like it's like when we got to the him being like you know, oh, I you know, I realized you did it. I'm like, oh shit, we're almost done.
1:21:15 Yeah. So I mean it's a lot of fun. It's a perfect movie, like Enrique said, for the whole family, and Eve, like I said, if you are a fan of the film and you want to see it in its best quality, that four K transfer that just came out through shout highly highly recommended. Yeah, No, I loved it. It is a bye for both of us. So going into our recommendations as we always in the show with a couple, I have two this week, the first one being nineteen seventy six is Murder by Death. Five famous literary detective characters and their sidekicks are invited to a bizarre mansion to solve an even stranger mystery. A very fun movie, dated as all as always with the seventy six, Yeah, but a lot of fun. The other one I'm gonna give is nineteen eighty two's death Trap with Christopher Reeve and Michael Kane, a struggling playwright invites a young writer to his home to discuss a script, but the meeting spirals into a deadly game of deception and betrayal. What's your recommendation, Uh, I.
1:22:03 Would say probably Haunting in Venice, the very recent one, because that's probably let's see, it was from twenty twenty three, damn last year. It's that new. It's literally like the Agatha Christy Halloween special. Yeah, it has all these spooky fun vibes, but it is a murder mystery. It has all of the fun elements of a big house, lots of interesting characters, complicated backstories, everything coming together at the end and making sense. Yeah, to some extent. It also has the most upbeat ending of all three of those movies. That's true, you're spoiling it, really, no, but I really loved it. I really enjoyed the hell out of it. Yeah, it's great. So that would be my recommendation. That is a great recommendation. So would you like to know what we're talking about next week as we wrap up mulling around?
1:22:48 I don't. I am good. It's a first time watch for you that I'm excited about. Oh boy, oh boys. We are going with nineteen eighties My Bodyguard. Okay, yes, I don't know that movie. You know nothing about it. I'm excited about that. I'm guessing Martin Mall's in it is, although I shouldn't assume that we watched The Player and Martin Mall's is an extra. And Martin mall has lines in My Bodyguard is a good character. I don't care what drugs he was doing on the movie. I care if he's a character who speaks. He speaks, he speaks, and he's the dad. But yeah, we will be wrapping up mulling around with My Bodyguard, which is also a great tease for what we're doing for September. Would would you? Would you like me to go ahead and say, why the hell not? So? As always, you know that becomes the back to school time.
1:23:30 So we are going to highlight some back to school films for September, but. We have to take a little bit of a of a detour. Is that because of your birthday? Because of my birthday? It is? Yes, we're gonna be watching. I'll always know what you did last summer. Are you fucking serious? Maybe I've got a few days we might be in luck. I might change my mind. You better. Foster Squad's a great one. No no, No, gleng Glary, Glenn Ross. No, no, If you fucking choose that, you're making me really want I know, I'm gonna stop. You're desperately making me want to. Why would you choose a movie you don't even know if you like for your birthday movie kissed me Off?
1:24:13 Well, yes, yes, because I deserve a little treat. Regardless, September will be back to school month, and we are We've got some great selections lined up for that. So yeah, we will be kicking off that month in September, but we will wrapping up next week with My Bodyguard from nineteen eighty, which, if you have not seen a really really good flick with a very young Kevin Dyllan, a very young Adam Baldwin, and a young Martin Moule. He'd be weird if you were like and an older this older. So do we have any emails? We have three count of maybe three emails to get through to. So we're gonna do these in the order they were received. Okay, this first email, the head the header is mister mom. Okay, hey guys, what a great movie.
1:24:58 I love. When he knocks out the mom's for yelling at the kids reminds me of my dad. I also remember working for AMC Theaters in nineteen eighty nine and everyone's saying, mister mom is Batman. Yep. Fun movie. It really holds up well for the for its age. Thanks for the laughs and the great podcast. As always, I share and recommend this and Weekly Spooky to everyone. Awesome, Thank you. And that's from Kevin Potoff. Thank you, Kevin. We talked to Kevin a lot on Facebook, which, by the way, you can find us on Facebook if you type in do you even movie podcast? We'd love to have you there. But no, mister mom yeah kicks ass it does. I love that movie. And if him punching Martin Maull's character reminds you of your dad, then you're really gonna love the movie. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, that's a good one. So this next one is from our good buddy wolf Dan Okay, and it says headline is movie requests.
1:25:47 Okay, he's been requesting some. Since you guys seem to love the nineties. Guilty. Yes, I'd appreciate it if you could put nineteen ninety one's Toy Soldiers on the list. Yes, we will. I love Toy Soldier. Jeez, that's not even in the movie, that is we David, I love Toy Soldiers so much. We have inside jokes about that movie. Yes we do. That'd be good back to school movie. Cool exactly, And that's funny because it was actually on my list of options. So yes, wolf Dan, it's happening in September. It's happening. Well, we should not even read the rest. Now. I could write a book on just how damn good that movie is, but I don't think it's necessary. With a cast like Sean Aston, Will Wheaton, I love how I already agreed to it now that he's still selling it, and Louis Gosset Junior, it was bound to be great.
1:26:38 I I first caught this movie on cable. It was already about halfway through. I looked up the schedule and saw when it was playing again, and did what any of us with a dual head VCR did until it was released on DVD. Of course, Yep. If I could name ten films that were absolutely perfect, this film would be right there with jaws Et and the Monster Squad. Old statement, that's no, that's that makes me want to rewatch. Oh yeah, it's great you guys rock keep rocking yours furry? Yes, I know what a furry is, wolf Dan. Well, Dan, you got your wish man. Somebody else is getting a birthday wish on my birthday month? There, Okay, No, we're going No. We adore that film, yeah, I and the fact that you've praised it so much is making me hungry to watch it again. So we will definitely have that.
1:27:22 We may just kick off the month with that. We since we don't have a list yet, I think that would be the way to go. So no, wolf Dan, thank you so much for writing in and before we read this last email, I just want to remind you guys, if you want to email us, you can do so at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. Yes, that's do you even movie pod pod at gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie dot com to find all of the information. So I just want to make sure you guys know that because we love reading your emails right in with your movie recommendations, your thoughts, your opinions, dating advice. I will answer any question you will. I will recklessly. So this one says movie review suggestions. Oh it's the subject, Hey guys, my name is Trank, and then he put in parentheses Tranquiliano. I think I'm saying that right, Tranquiliano. I hope I'm not mutilating your name.
1:28:15 But my name gets mutilated all the time. I get it. But he goes by Trank. I love do you even movie podcast and the Weekly Spooky Pod. I do enjoy the reviews and banter. Thank you very much you. My birthday is on the twenty first of September. Oh boy, I'd like to request your review either of Necessary Roughness Okay or The Last Boy Scout. I would probably be more inclined for the Last Boy Scout. Necessary Roughness I've seen one time and I always I'm ninety percent sure I can use it with the movie Semi Tough, but I would need to revisit roughness. But Last Boy Scout, I'm a big fan of That movie is so nasty in regards of both its violence and its dialogue and a lot of fun.
1:28:59 I do like the Last Boy Scout. Yes, maybe we can. We can tack that into September. Figure it out, and we'll figure that out because we appreciate you asking nicely. Both are great movies and football related for that time of year. Bad. Hey, no, it's a great no. Thanks thanks for the many recommendations and thanks for the entertainment. FYI, I have a DVD collection that numbers just over six hundred. Nice. I only get movies I enjoy watching. I watch everyone before they get added to the shelves. Thanks again, Trank. Drank, You're a better man than I because I have a lot of blind buys. You were organizing, not my blind bys. We were organizing my new movies into a stack and it was like twenty five deep of ones I haven't even opened.
1:29:41 You have a lot of shrink wrap on yours that I don't. Yeah, no, it's a problem. And I'm not even that big of a collector. I probably only have nine hundred. Well, I mean there's still a copy of Survival Quest somewhere in this house. It's probably right next to your fucking yellow belt. How do you like? That? Could be? Yeah? You like apples? How about those apples? So, but a reminder before we take off you if you want to send us an email and thanks again, TRNK. If you send us an email, do you even movie pottot gmail dot com? We love recommendations, We love suggestions. Do you want to warn everybody? October go to be jampacked pretty much. We've decided we're going to watch only Halloween classics that are readily available to stream for everybody. Yeah, so if you have a suggestion for October and you want to get it in early, it has to fit that criteria to be considered. Otherwise we're going to go with probably something from David's epic list last year that he did for Weekly Spooky. And speaking of that, I want to remind everybody that this year, do you even Movie and Weekly Spooky are going to combine Cross Baby. Yeah, crossover episodes for October, so that'll be really fun. I know a lot of people who discover the show discover it because whenever we review horror movies, I air it at Weekly Spooky just to bring in a few more people. But anyway, that is about all I've got, David, anything you want to mention before we get the hell out of here.
1:30:55 As he already mentioned, you can find us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram. We are not on TikTok anymore, but you can fight us. On x yep and are you actually updating my am okay, okay, try not to like watch over my shoulder, but also like David doesn't like X, all you have to do is post on Yeah, I know, son of a bitch. Well we are gonna head out, guys. Remember next week we'll be talking about my bodyguard from nineteen ninety three. But until then, nineteen eighty oh, nineteen eight. I'm sorry, I'm trying to read your bullshit. Nineteen eighty. You mean the bullshit that I typed and didn't right, it's all the way down here. You just fucked it even worse. No, nope, there, damn it. There we go. Look my body gorged nineteen eighty, my bodyguard nineteen eighty. Yeah, we'll be talking all about that next week. So until then, we will see you next Tuesday. That is very offensive, too late
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