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March 11, 2025

All That We Destroy (2019) A Twisted Experiment in Horror

All That We Destroy (2019) A Twisted Experiment in Horror
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Henrique and David examine All That We Destroy (2019), a Mother’s Day entry in Blumhouse Television’s Into the Dark that merges psychological horror, cloning science fiction and the mad-scientist tradition. Samantha Mathis plays geneticist Victoria Harris, whose son Spencer has a compulsion to kill. Rather than surrender him to justice, she repeatedly creates versions of his first victim, Ashley, hoping controlled violence will somehow cure the monster she refuses to confront.
Director Chelsea Stardust builds the mystery through an abstract opening in which Aurora Perrineau’s Ashley emerges from black liquid without memories. Israel Broussard gives Spencer an unsettling mixture of isolation, artistic sensitivity and brutality, while Victoria treats every murdered clone as experimental data. The hosts praise Mathis for grounding an impossible premise in a mother’s selfish desperation and Perrineau for making each Ashley feel human enough to expose the horror of reducing a person to a disposable copy.
The discussion explores how new neighbor Marissa offers Spencer a chance at ordinary connection while Victoria befriends the latest Ashley only to prepare her for slaughter. Digital conversations with Spencer’s absent father and Harris Genetics’ organ-cloning work widen the story’s ethical questions. Henrique and David argue that Victoria’s love has become possession: she calls her work treatment, yet sacrifices multiple lives to avoid accepting that her son needs to be stopped.
As Ashley discovers the lab, recorded deaths and evidence of her original identity, her question—how many times has he killed her?—crystallizes the film’s tragedy. She ultimately kills Spencer in the same manner he killed her predecessors, but the police see only a wanted woman standing over a body. The final birth of a cloned Spencer confirms that Victoria has learned nothing. The hosts debate whether she will recreate his murderous nature, continuing the experiment until her refusal destroys everyone around her.
Henrique and David retain their original praise for the eerie opening, Samantha Mathis’ performance and a moral argument the film never spoon-feeds. Their conversation also touches on David’s long hair, the anthology’s holiday structure and Chelsea Stardust’s move from assisting Jason Blum to directing. Both recommend this memorable Into the Dark film for its clones, desert isolation, graphic recurring imagery and devastating study of a parent becoming monstrous in the name of love.
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I want her to be real, for you.

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To feel like the real things, so you can go

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longer before feeling these urges. Do you want to help

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satisfy his needs?

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Keep him from killing anybody?

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Real? She seems human?

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Where do you remember my son?

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How far are you willing to go for? She is

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more than just a coffee.

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She's remembering who she was? How many times has he

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killed me?

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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme? Two Friends dare

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to ask?

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Do you even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, So you're not allowed to have any hair

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on your body at your job?

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Uh No, that's weird.

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I feel like that's an OSHA violation.

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I'm not going to talk about work on camera.

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Sorry.

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Yeah. Basically, all I was told was that I just

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need to not wear my hat as much, and that

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was really about it.

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But I get a hat, well.

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Not this, it's it's my my winter the winter.

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Hat, basically like one I would get any hat being yeah, no, no,

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I get it.

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Yeah. But you also keep in mind too that we

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only have people in office like big Time Tuesday through Thursday.

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So Tuesday Wednesday Thursday people are in office, and then

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for the most part like Mondays and Fridays, not a

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lot of people in office. But I also have the

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option to work from home as I as I can

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use it too. But the problem is mainly is that

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I have not grown my hair out this long in

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fifteen years, so I'm not used to taking care of it.

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It's been a good bit, so it's not super easy

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to just pick it out like I used to. I

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actually have to kind of like style it a little bit,

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and that's the hard part, especially going outside when it's

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blowing in the wind.

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So the problem is laziness.

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Yeah, it always is.

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Well, this has been a very good session. Yeah, I

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do accept your insurance, Thank goodness.

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Also, my hair just has a fucking mind of its own.

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And that's the problem too, because it just they I

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used to be able to when I was in high school.

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I used to be able to pick it out and

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just not have to worry about the picking it out

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was basically all I had to do when I pick

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it out. Now it one side wants to stick up,

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another side wants to stick that way, or this side's

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a little flatter, So it's like I have to work

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on a little longer than I'm used to.

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Did you how do you dry your hair?

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I don't.

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You're not even a towel.

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I mean, that's that's that's it. That's literally like I

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will put it. I will put a towel through it

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when I step out of the shower for the most part,

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and then otherwise and that I just let it air dry.

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Is that how you did it when you were a kid?

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Basically? Yeah, I mean I I had a hair dryer.

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I I personally didn't have a hair dryer. We had

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a hair dryer at the house and gets a bit's

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been so far back, dude, I can't really remember.

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But I bet you blue dry your hair a little bit,

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a little bit, but not probably because you had to

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hurry up for school or something. You'd use a blow dryer.

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I didn't use it the style because kid, all I'm

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saying is you might be happy if you used a

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blow dry eh.

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I don't. Other The only thing is I don't trust

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I don't trust my bathroom much with with other electronics

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right now.

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I mean, I don't mean do it while you're taking

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a bath.

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No, I know that, I know that. It's more so

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just uh, I don't don't know how do I put this.

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There has been some electrical issues in the bathroom recently,

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that's all I say. Like, that's that. That's the best

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way I can put that.

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I mean, you can plug it in in your bedroom.

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Yeah, but I also have a mirror in my bathroom

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that I normally look at, and I have the giant

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mirror my bedroom to.

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Mirror your Arab friend who takes care of the bathroom.

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Stop. But no, I don't have any outlets buy my

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mirror in my in my bedroom.

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Well, you don't really need a mirror to blow out

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curly hair short curly hair. Yeah, I mean you're your

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blow drying routine would probably be less than five minutes

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because your hair, I mean, although your hair is thick

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and it is getting a little longer. I mean my

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hair to fully blow dry from tw i'll dry doesn't

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take twenty minutes.

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Yeah. So well we'll keep in mind too. I'm not

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I'm not like showering all the time before I go

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to work. And we know I shower. I shower usually

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the night before. So when I go every day, I

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would say every every couple.

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Days, every okay, so every okay.

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I shower, I would say, as it stands right now,

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because I usually didn't note no offense. I usually shower

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when I get out of out of here because cigar

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smell smells on my clothes, so I've got to be

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careful with that.

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And careful with that. You're afraid your landlord will smell you.

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No, it's not that. It's more so like if I

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have anything that like if I if I put my

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clothes and don't put them in the wash or anything

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like that, it'll infect my other clothes. And I have

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a bad habit lately of putting away cleanly wear clean clothes,

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and I do wear clean clothes. God damage well.

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But my point is if you blow dry your hair,

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generally your hair will stay kind of the way the

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blow dryer gets your hair to be yeah, for days.

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Yeah. So I also seldom do I shower before I

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go to work. I usually shower the night before because.

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That's my point. You can still blow drop, Yeah, yeah,

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I got it. It might You might be surprised how

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much more manageable it is, because basically, the direction your

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hair dries is the direction it wants to stay. So

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if you go to sleep with wet hair, you're gonna

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have some interesting experiences. But if you were to just

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give yourself a quick blow dry, make sure your hair

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is dead ass dry before you go to sleep, Yeah,

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it's gonna be much more predictable.

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Yeah. So I usually make sure it's as dry as

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it can be when I lay my head on my

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pillow because otherwise had trouble of getting you know, wet

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pillow and shit.

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Well yeah, yeah, but I mean I mean down to

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the down to the stal yeah, because yeah, because it'll

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help a lot more than you might think. Yeah, but

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I was just just trying to help. I mean, I

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started a routine of only blow drying, not even that

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long ago.

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Min I haven't had to buy one because I cut

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my hair short for so many years, so you don't

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have a road dryer. I never bought a blow dryer

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when I left the house, Like I never I never

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had a blow dryer after leaving the house going to college.

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I didn't even have a blow dry in college.

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Well that's not surprising. In college, you base feral.

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They got to use my roommate's blow dryer.

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To be honest, again, sounds like Collige.

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Yeah, yeah, but you know I have not I've actually

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never personally bought a blow dryer.

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Well, Davy, hm, you're over thirty now, yeah, it might

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be time.

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We'll see, it.

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Might be time to get yourself a little thirteen dollars

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con air. Eh, you can think of when you blow

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it in your face. You can pretend you're Nick Cage.

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It's always the always the way to go with it.

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Well, that's why they call it a con air. I'm

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always is that moment, that moment with Knick Cage. I'm

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just saying you might be surprised how much your hair

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would appreciate the least amount of a Yeah, it'd probably

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really like it. I mean I would kill to have

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a curly head of hair like yours. Your hair is

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fucking ridiculous.

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I love I love having my curly hair. The problem is,

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well with this way. I love my curly hair during winter.

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I don't love it when spring and summer hits because

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it gets real fucking hot up there.

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Well, that's why you gotta ful fit out, Yeah, because

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then all the air can get in. Or better you

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get corner rows.

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Corner rows. Yeah, there we go.

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I would pay good to get you corner road.

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That's not happening for one I literally like almost overheated

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one time when I was mowing the grass. Like this

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is like back back in would have been like sophomore

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maybe even freshman year. I almost overheated one time because

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it was so hot outside in between mowing the grass

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and having my hair and everything, like, there was so

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much sweat coming down from my hair, like it was

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killing me.

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I mean, you know the trick, right, what what your hair?

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Yeah, you were your hair?

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I mean no, like the because the secret weapon if

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you're working in the heat and you have long hairs

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that you have a big sponge on top of your head,

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so you pour a little water in it and it

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keeps you cool for a while, a good while. I've

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had long hair since I was fourteen years old.

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I didn't start, so I always had short hair for

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the most part. It wasn't until I was in sixth

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grade and I kept missing hair appointments because of baseball

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practice because I was. I was in baseball at that point,

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and I remember, my missie, did you play? Uh this

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is still like rec leagues, so I mean I was.

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I would be center field, I would play third base

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and occasionally occasionally shortstop.

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I don't know what any of that means, but I

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wanted to test you. No, No, but I was scared.

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I mean, I'm scorios. You're good.

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But yeah, I remember I was walking to the car

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one day after practice and my mom is like, yeah,

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She's like, I really like your hair, Like it's it's

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growing really well. So like if you don't, like, if

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you don't want to get your hair cutting time soon,

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like we don't have to, like we can get it

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styled when it needs to.

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But like, does your papa have curly hair?

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No, I got so from what I can understand, I

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got this from his dad had curly hair up to

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probably I think it was about mid thirties or so,

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so right, right, I think that's about it. But most

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of my hair comes from my mom's dad. Oh there's

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there's a picture of him in track when he was

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in high school, and it looks he looks exactly like me,

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or I look exactly like him.

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Either way, look just like your grandpa. And I'm glad

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I don't have to deal with that now I've shown

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you those creepy pictures. And when Grandpa, like right when

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he enlisted the Navy just fucking looks like me. It's

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so creepy. It's so weird.

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Dad definitely did have curly hair, though, because I've got

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a picture on my phone right now of him when

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I think he was in his like mid twenties, and

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he looks exact I think I've shown it to you.

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He looks exactly like me.

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Hey, you guys, look you do favorite each other. So

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for those who have not seen you or can't see you,

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and even right now, I mean you're wearing a hat

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like a like a I mean, son of a bitch.

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I'll take it off briefly.

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What you need, sincerely, you just need you just need

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a blow dryer and a and a good brush, and

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I bet you you'd be very pleased, yeah.

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Because I mean I will comb it or comb it

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out as much as I can, but I mainly just

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stickle my hair pick because that's.

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You don't use a brush at all.

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Really.

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Oh, so here's the thing, soft like you want to

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get one of those combo hard bristles, soft bristle brushes brushes,

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because not only for your hair, I bet it would

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be great mine, it's it's the worst. Yeah. The reason

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soft bristles make your hair so soft is they actually

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spread the oil to the further parts of your your

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hair and thereby make you look less oily, unless you're

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as incredibly oily as I am.

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I don't believe I am.

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No, I am positive, yeah that you are not.

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Don't believe I am, but no, I think it's a combination.

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Right now that I'm still unsure what I want to

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do with the hair. A couple of our mutual friends

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have asked me to keep it till Wasteland, which, for

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those listening, we're recording this about a month exactly from Wasteland.

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Cinema Wasteland the movie expo for those who don't know.

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In Strongsville, Ohio. So it would be about another month.

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And I think if I were to let this growl

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that long, it's going to be pretty crazy by the

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time we get there. So it's fifty to fifty right now.

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If I keep it might not be that crazy little effort.

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This is only till this has only been growing since October.

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I bet you you get yourself like a little coarse

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hair gel, not like styling gel. It's actually a gel

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you put in your hair before you blow dry. Yeah,

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that protects it from heat. Basically, it's kind of like

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actually like the stuff stunt guys put on their hair

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to protect but it's but it's not as strong. Yeah,

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but it helps your hair not fry when you blow

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dry it. But I'm telling you, I bet you you

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hit it with that brush real good because the pick

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is good for maintenance, but not for the initial stock.

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No, it's not good for That's that's the biggest issue

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right now, is like I have my hair pick at work,

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and it's like I'll pick it out in the bathroom.

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It's just like, well, that didn't help at all.

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I think you'd be surprised. I bet you you'd be

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surprised how nice it looks.

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Yeah.

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Plus then you could sculpt it or have it sculpted

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and kind of find it. I don't I don't think

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you look bad with hair, Dade. I just I don't know.

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I don't. In fact, I don't dislike it.

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Sometimes I have to give like no inglares to my

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friends when you're bald headed, like it's cool, He's all right.

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I don't go bald headed off. I go short only rarely.

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Do I shave it to the scalp only rarely.

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Yeah, yeah, right.

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My mom hates it.

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Like right after you you're done watching American History Acts,

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You're like, you know not, I don't know why I

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feel this even touching that right, don't know why I

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feel like I want to dress this way. But I'm

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just gonna for five right now a minute. No, I

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mean I could have made meaner jokes. I'm just being sweet.

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I was just being cute. So all I'm saying is

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I think you should take it from somebody who just

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recently had to expand my horizons about doing more for

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my hair than just like letting it sit. Yeah, blow

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drying brings a lot of life to your hair. A

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good a good soft bristle brush won't set you back

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much money at all, and it'll make a a It'll

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probably make it fluffier than you imagine, probably, and you'll

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probably want to pick it less to let it kind

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of settle. But you get some coarse hair treatment stuff

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and that, and you're set. You won't have to do much.

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But I bet you'd be I bet you'd be happy. No.

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I mean that's like, like I said at the beginning

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of the show. I I know that I that I

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have these struggles because of just pure laziness. I know

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that for a fact.

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The other thing and this is not I'm not trying

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to joke. Yeah, as a sleep cap if you put

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a little a little soft nylon, ye sleep cap, not

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like a do rag. But they have these things for

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They're mostly for keeping braids under control, but that could

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also help your hair not get super wacky when you

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sleep on it.

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You want to know something probably terrible that all I meant.

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Oh no, I I wouldn't say every night because it hasn't.

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I mean, but a lot, predominantly around winter time. I

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usually sleep in a hoodie and I usually have the

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hood up.

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All right, all right, yeah, put your damn hat back on.

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You make me sad. I'm kidding. You wear your hair.

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I don't care how you wear your hair.

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It's probably gonna be better if I leave it off

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right now.

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I'll never forget My first job was like you can

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wear whatever you want, and then about a year later

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you're like, yeah about that.

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I have like I've never gotten like a straight up like,

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I've never got a dress code issue in regards to

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hair or anything like that. I've gotten T shirt issues

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I've had I've had I've had dress code issues with that,

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not at not like recently. This is like back in

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high school, like, I had a s that was Hell

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Michigan and it was damn you, Damn University is what

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it was. I also was a track practice with a

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washed T shirt that on the back said I fucked

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like a beast, but I had put a piece of

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tape over it and written hug.

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I got sent home for wearing on top of my

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clothes a full size Butcher's apron that had ed Dean's

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face on it and said the original Wisconsin Cannibal.

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Wow, that doesn't surprise me. Did you ever get in

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trouble for your start truk outfit? No, I don't think so.

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I mean not by the faculty crapp beat out of me.

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But yeah, I mean is that trouble?

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I'm more so it dresscode violation.

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I thought that's what you cool, this violation. No, no, no, well,

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I mean those kids who beat me up were pretty cool.

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Oh yeah, but no, no, no, I mean, I don't know.

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I just think you should. You should expand your horizons

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a little bit. You know, I know that. You know

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when we taw there are no cameras, no microphones. You're

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kind of like, I'm thirty, I'm basically dead.

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Oh that's exactly how Yeah, that's exactly.

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I think you should try it. I think you should.

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You should grab yourself just the cheapest little hair dryer.

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It'll be more than enough for what you're doing. You

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don't need some crazy fancy bowl crap. And even the

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crazy fancy ones are forty.

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Bucks perfectly honest, I may fucking have one to Honestly,

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now I think about it, because there may be one

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in in some stuff that was left over.

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Oh sure. I didn't want to say you probably have

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one and don't know it because I didn't want it

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to end up being one of those Dave Hills.

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Well, the problem is on the problem is is I

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don't know where it is. It's going to be the

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scavenger hunt.

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I just meant, I just meant knowing you. Sometimes I'd

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be like, I'm pretty I bet you have what somebody

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be like I really don't, and then it would become

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this thing where then yeah, you know, into the conversation

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be like, actually.

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I haven't seen it since I've lived at this current apartment.

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So if I if I do still have one, which

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I no, I don't have that one. Never mind, I

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just remember, I just remember there was there was a

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there was a fire issue with it. Turned it on

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and smoke came out of it one day.

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Yeah, you get it, get a new one. Yeah, you

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know they're not they're not ricey. Just grab one at Walmart.

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That was back at Crawford Street, the Sketchy apartment.

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I remember the street.

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I was using it. Yeah, I was using it to dry.

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Was it paint? I was. I was using it for

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an art project to dry something I came or if

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it was paint or if it was something that I'd done,

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and I had it all like I had it. I

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had it run in for like a good like fifteen minutes.

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Yeah. So modern ones will auto cool, Yeah, occasionally when

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you run at that.

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This was a little white one that had brown cord

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to it, and it had high and low. We're just

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the two settings it had.

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But they were in like in like cyrillic, like they're

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from the Soviet Union.

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I just remember turning it on, using it and then

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being like what's that smell? And then looking down and

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like smoke was pouring out of.

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It in sabby Trasha had dry Oh no, no, okay, So.

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So yeah, I will, I will, I will. Price.

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You've been hurt by a hair dryer. Now, I'm understanding

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the pain.

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I'm trying to think if I there. There's a distinct

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memory I have of one burning my neck, but I

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can't remember if it was in my hand or if

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it was in my sister, my mom, in the hand

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of a lover. Now now it was either my sister's

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hand or my mom's hand. I can't remember.

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That sounds like your sister.

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Yeah, that does does sound like my silf.

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Come here, Brad. Now, all I'm saying is get yourself

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a hair dryer, even even a travel one. Yeah, they're cheap.

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Pardon me, and report back. I think you. I think

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you'd actually be happy about it.

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No, I'm That's that's been the biggest issue, is just

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I don't really know what I want to do appearance wise,

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of course, so well.

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That's always the question, especially when you're not a living

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cartoon character like I am. Right where I just kind

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of I it's kind of pick a look. It's the

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only time I actually went maybe they're right. When people

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were like, are you You're autistic, aren't you, I'd be like, no, well,

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I mean I did pick one look and kind of

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stick with it for twenty years there's that overall, but geezh, yeah, dude,

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you gotta do so speaking of surviving in sketchy situation,

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nice segue. But we just went to the theater and

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we saw a little.

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Movie, Yes, Last Breath from twenty twenty five, starring Woody Harrelson,

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Uh Simoulu and Finn Cole.

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I like how because of the habit of the show

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you gave the year when we went to see it

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in the theater. Yeah, Last Breath from twenty twenty one.

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Doc Brown was nice enough to pick us.

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Up in the door. Literally just watched Anora and I

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was sad because I was just like shit, I didn't

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see this last year because I was for some reason

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thinking that it came out this year. I don't know why.

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Well, it would be weird for it to well, that

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was before it won all the before it's sweep.

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I think it was just the availability of it.

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It was. It was showing in November. Yeah, and it

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didn't come to the theater you and I go to

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very often, so you were I would say you were.

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You were tepid to luke warm based on the trailer.

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Oh yeah, because what really got you to see it

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was I went and saw it on a random evening

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at the further Away theater that had it, and I

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it was my favorite, possibly my favorite movie of the

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whole year.

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Well, I mean, like we said before too, the trailer

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just kind of really undersold it.

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Well it had to, yeah, I mean, Anora the trailer

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tells you what it is. It's actually I think it's

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it's it's you. You No, it's the audience, including myself,

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our expectation when we hear that it's like this story

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of a stripper meeting a Russian oligarch's son and then

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marrying him, and then people wanting them to separate. You

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just kind of make assumptions of where that's going to go,

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and Anora completely subverts those assumptions and instead takes you

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on a very realistic, funny, very funny and sad ride

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through the reality of the whole situation. And I wasn't

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ready for I remember, I think it was like the

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forty five to fifty minute mark was the first time

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I like, I like laughed out loud and I was like,

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I see what they're doing.

472
00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.000
When that coffee table shattered, I get fought in my apartment.

473
00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.480
Of course you did, but I just want to remind

474
00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:16.119
you everybody that if if you have seen Anora and

475
00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.599
really enjoyed it, you know, it swept the Academy Awards.

476
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:21.559
Everybody's talking about it. If you haven't seen it, make

477
00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.119
sure to check it out. But one unfortunate element is now,

478
00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.799
with Anora being in the public spotlight so intensely, you

479
00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.400
may have to talk to your children about Armenians.

480
00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:35.240
About Armenians.

481
00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:38.480
Yeah, Jesus, Now, I actually love the handling of kind

482
00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.920
of like the Armenian people in it, and the way

483
00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:43.960
people kind of assume bad things was if you're Armenian.

484
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:46.039
So I hung out with our our mutual friend Courtney

485
00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.519
last night for our movie night that we do on

486
00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.000
Mondays typically, and and she even she watched it recently

487
00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.559
and she was just like, she's like I was just

488
00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:54.759
waiting for like the bad things to like happen like

489
00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:55.359
when they should have.

490
00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.359
I was like, that's what is No, that's why it's great. Big,

491
00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.680
So that's why it's great. Yeah, that's well, because the

492
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:06.640
whole movie is completely realistic. Yeah, so no, it's it's

493
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.039
it's a great film. I don't want to rave about

494
00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:12.079
the Accademy about this first time in my entire life.

495
00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.799
Ye that that at least, because I don't really rank

496
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.680
movies heavily in my head, but it was the top

497
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:18.240
three movies of the year, and last year was a

498
00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:19.039
great year for movies.

499
00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:20.759
It would have been in my top if i'd seen it.

500
00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:24.119
So to have like possibly my favorite movie of twenty

501
00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.119
twenty four sweep the Oscars, not just win Best Picture,

502
00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.480
but like sweep them, sweep them startled me because, like

503
00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:31.599
I saw Parasite after it won. We both did. We

504
00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:32.839
went and saw it in the theater. It was after

505
00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:34.519
it won. It was after it was after it won,

506
00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.920
Are you sure? Because they brought it back. That's how

507
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.240
we caught it, because we thought it was a horror movie,

508
00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:42.839
Like we thought it was a foreign horror movie.

509
00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:44.920
You remember, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna check that

510
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.519
and I'm gonna i'm gonna I'm gonna get back to

511
00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:48.640
you on that. It might you might, you might be right,

512
00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:50.960
or you may be crazy, but you just may be

513
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.119
the lunatic I'm looking for.

514
00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:53.640
Who's what is that?

515
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:54.240
Billy Joel?

516
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.799
Oh? Okay, yeah, I don't know. I don't know then personally,

517
00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.119
but no, So I feel bad because we were talking

518
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:06.920
about Last Class Breath. Yeah, a perfectly serviceable suspense film

519
00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.960
based on a true story. I just know that getting

520
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.039
into it that it was based on a true story.

521
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:16.440
You know, I can't say that it's worth running to

522
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.839
the theater, but if you if you like the claustrophobic elements,

523
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:21.720
if water scares you, which.

524
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.960
It does, the underwater cinematography is gorgeous. I mean, that's

525
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:26.799
it was. That was kind of one of the things

526
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:29.599
that really really grabbed me in from the trailer. And honestly,

527
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.200
you know, like we like we thought it might have

528
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.599
been a little bit more suspenseful.

529
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.079
Well, the moment it said based on a true story,

530
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:36.759
I was like, oh, this isn't going to be exactly

531
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:37.799
what we thought it was going to be.

532
00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.359
We were spoiled with Underwater. Let's be honest. I loved

533
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:41.720
underwater so much fun.

534
00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.039
But it's about these guys, this team of three, yeah,

535
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.559
who work deep, deep deep underwater floor ocean floor three

536
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.359
hundred feet down. And when you go three hundred feet down,

537
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.920
it takes three days to acclimate to the pressure, which

538
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.359
they do in a tube on the ship, and then

539
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.640
they dunk you under and put you in a thingy

540
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.119
once you're at that depth and it takes three days

541
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.440
to acclimate to come back up. And they're down there

542
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:09.079
to fix a pipeline that's having an issue off the

543
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:13.319
coast of Ireland. Yeah, and one of them, through a

544
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.039
bunch of bad things happening at once bad weather technology failures,

545
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:23.480
ends up stranded with ten minutes of air yeah left. Yeah,

546
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.400
it sounds a little more exciting than it was. Yeah,

547
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.720
but they played it. They played it realistic, and because

548
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.039
of that, I can't fault it. They decided not to

549
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.079
take an incredible amount of liberties with the story, which

550
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.319
I can appreciate because the people that this happened to

551
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.319
are you know, they're still alive and taking this happen

552
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:42.000
very recently.

553
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.440
Yeah, Marky, Mark's not climbing up from the bottom of

554
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.240
the depth to the top of the ship and being like,

555
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:47.000
what's up, guys.

556
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.319
I'm a fucking rock star. But I did enjoy it.

557
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.400
And I will say if you know, if you're looking,

558
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:56.160
if you're like, man, I want to like we are

559
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:57.599
this way, you know, if you're like, man, I really

560
00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:59.160
want to go to the theater, Yeah, you won't be

561
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.039
mad you caught it, not at all. But it didn't.

562
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.240
It just didn't blow my mind. Although I will tell

563
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.359
you what blew my mind my first observation when the

564
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.160
film ended, because they did the thing where they showed

565
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.119
some some video footage of the actual guys. Could not

566
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:16.359
have cast people who looked less like the actual people. Yeah,

567
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.640
the main character was this youthful, kind of mop headed

568
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.599
young guy and his wife, a woman of similar height

569
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.880
with brunette hair. We see them for real. He's a

570
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.720
mountainously tall man, bald headed, and she's short with blonde hair.

571
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.680
And then his crewmates, one of them did not look

572
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.960
like Woody Harrelson at all, and the other one was not.

573
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.759
It did not appear he was Asian.

574
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.920
That didn't. I mean it did not.

575
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.880
It doesn't really matter, but it's just but it definitely

576
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.319
took me back because usually when you watch a biopic,

577
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.759
the most fun part about seeing the actual people is

578
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:56.920
seeing how they styled the actors that you know to

579
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.319
look more like them. And often you'll be like, wow,

580
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.440
they like really like. One of the best examples Argo, Yeah,

581
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.079
when they show the actual people are like, man, they

582
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.440
really they went really far to get them to look

583
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.680
like the the hostages, well, the not hostages but the refugees.

584
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.880
Well, there's that show on Netflix. It's all about the

585
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:17.960
the Godmother of Cocaine and Sophia Varga. Is it Varga

586
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.000
or Varga or Varga. Yeah, she's she's the one that

587
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:21.480
plays her.

588
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.839
Looks nothing like her, and that does happen.

589
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.400
I just watched an entire documentary on that woman and

590
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:28.720
looks nothing like.

591
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.720
It does happen, Man, it does happen. So anyway, it

592
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.119
was a fun film, Yeah.

593
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.279
Definitely, it was definitely definitely a good time, good.

594
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.279
Bit of fun. Yeah. And speaking of a good bit

595
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:43.720
of fun, we are still in March Marching Into the

596
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.839
Dark YEP, and we're covering the Hulu series in conjunction

597
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.079
with Blumhouse Television, Yes, called Into the Dark, which had

598
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.119
twenty four episodes a feature film every month for twenty

599
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.359
four months. Often they referenced the month they were taking

600
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.400
place in. Yeah, sometimes they didn't as much.

601
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:01.920
So I actually it's funny you say that because I

602
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.839
actually pulled up the Wikipedia pagees I was curious information

603
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.160
wise what they would have. This episode in particular pertains

604
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:09.039
to Mother's Day.

605
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.799
Oh duh, yeah, yeah, because the main character's a mom.

606
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.640
Yeah, and then last weeks, of course was Valentine's Day,

607
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:18.759
which we had, but you got Treehouse, which is International

608
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.240
Women's Day. You've got Independence Day for Culture Shock, First

609
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.000
day of School for school Spirit, Daughter's Day for pure

610
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.960
Let's see, we've also been in.

611
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.559
The second season. I felt like they dug a little deeper.

612
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.400
Sat Patrick's Day for Crawlers in the second season.

613
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.759
Oh yeah, well that's about pub crawlers, poster.

614
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.119
For Puka Lives, Mother's Day for Delivered, pet Appreciation Week

615
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:38.759
for good Boy.

616
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:39.799
Yeah.

617
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:43.480
Yes, Independence Day for the current occupant, Valentine's Day for Tentacles,

618
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:48.119
and Spring full Moon for blood Moon. So they did

619
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.160
correlate them.

620
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.240
But no, and I love that that adds to the fun.

621
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.000
Oh yeah, it makes you want to tune every in

622
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.279
every month. I wish they had gotten another season. Yeah,

623
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:57.920
but we got twenty.

624
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.839
Four Yeah, twenty four episodes. I can't talk.

625
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.480
About one that stuck out to us the most. Yes,

626
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.640
a little film called well an episode. I guess this

627
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.240
is where it gets confusing.

628
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.920
Like technically a film, I mean, if they're on letterbox,

629
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.119
I think you can count them as films, and all

630
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:12.880
of them are.

631
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.319
There are films? Yeah, yeah, But It's also like confusing

632
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.359
because like when I was showing it, I was watching

633
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.000
it and Rachel was here, so she was just kind

634
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.039
of watching too. I was like trying to say, like, oh,

635
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.319
this is one of the best, and then I was like,

636
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.960
I mean, it's a movie, but it is in context

637
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.039
of the series, one of my favorites. Yeah, and it's

638
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.920
called oh gosh, all that We Destroy, All that We Destroy. Yeah,

639
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.519
I kept thinking it was what we destroyed. I kept

640
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:37.799
getting that confused in my brain.

641
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.279
Yeah, we all that We destroy From twenty nineteen one

642
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.839
hour in twenty one minutes right a TVMA, sexual content,

643
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:46.880
graphic violence, and language.

644
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:48.839
It had some language in it.

645
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.000
It did, indeed, I hadbi synopsis says a geneticist who

646
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.720
fears her son maybe a serial killer, creates a group

647
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.960
of clones to cure him of his violent tendencies.

648
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.039
It's a little soft fears, hesus her.

649
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.319
My synopsis when her son experience is a deadly violent episode,

650
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.759
A geneticis begins a group of experiments with clones and

651
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:08.079
an attempt to cure him.

652
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.240
I like yours more, but I would I would like

653
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.519
to split the difference because I feel like it gives

654
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:14.680
almost too mucho much.

655
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:16.680
No, that's I think that's what we've said the same

656
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.079
thing last week with Down. I think that's what. One

657
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.319
of the things I've always loved about these episodes is

658
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.160
I remember we would spend like the first like you know,

659
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.079
twenty to thirty minutes being like, Oh, I bet this

660
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.039
is gonna happen, or maybe this is what's happening.

661
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:29.200
It's subverted expectation.

662
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.279
Revisiting this one, which I re visited this one twice.

663
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.640
It was funny because I could call up like at

664
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.960
least three like specific moments which I'll get to when

665
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.440
we get to the summary that I was just like,

666
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.279
oh yeah, we we kind of like figured that out

667
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.359
or were just like, oh my god, like when that happened.

668
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.319
Oh yeah. And a reminder, these all are on Hulu.

669
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.279
They were originally aired on Hulu, so you can give

670
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.839
it a watch on Hulu if you want to, uh

671
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.759
not have some spoilers. But we're going to uh, we're

672
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.720
gonna do it. We're gonna dive into the sum bitch.

673
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.279
So unlike last week's with Down, this one did have

674
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.200
a tagline, m A mother's luck of never dies.

675
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.359
Oh I like that. A mother's love that's solid. Yeah,

676
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:06.119
that's solid.

677
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.799
Yeah. So our director on this film is Chelsea Starredust,

678
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.400
who gets her start in twenty nineteen with Satanic Panic.

679
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:16.559
Oh okay, because that same year that was the one

680
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.079
with the Pizza Girl and the cult in the neighborhood.

681
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.400
But had Johnny Knoxville not Johnny knox whe was that

682
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:22.839
the other one?

683
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.279
No, you're thinking of you're thinking of, uh, we some

684
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:26.680
in the Night some of the Darkness.

685
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:27.680
Oh did I know?

686
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:29.759
We we watched the Tana Pan. Satanic Panic is the

687
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.279
one of the Pizza Girl and she ends up falling

688
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.519
into the cult. Jerry O'Connell's in it. There's the Kildo,

689
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.160
which is the giant tilto drill.

690
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.240
No, no, I I remember they were both released around

691
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.160
the same sartimes and they were very similar. But it

692
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.039
was kind of like Paul Blarton Observant Report.

693
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:43.319
Yeah.

694
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.240
I love using that example because people get mad.

695
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.480
But yeah, Satanic Panic and all that We Destroyed come

696
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.200
out the same year. So she had a really good year.

697
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.519
But people don't realize that she was Jason Blump's personal assistant.

698
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.160
Oh, I mean, that's like Roger Corman. Ere I mean,

699
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.799
Peter Bogdanovich was Corman's assistant. Francis Porcoppola was Rodger Corman's assistant.

700
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.279
Herought her on, so he invited her to a secret

701
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.319
screening of Insidious, and basically at the end of the thing,

702
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.359
he's like, this is kind of what we're going for, like,

703
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:10.079
do you want to come along for the ride? And

704
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.680
she's stuck with him. I think up through I think

705
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.400
it was like twenty twenty one or so, because I

706
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.119
feel like she didn't she didn't depart too much farther

707
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:20.559
after Covid.

708
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.240
I want to say, well, and she went off and

709
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.359
did Satanic Panic. Not at Blum's company, because she did

710
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.119
that one if I remember correctly. Yeah, for Fangoria. That

711
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.920
was one during that era when Dallas Sognier was running

712
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:33.720
Fagoria Films.

713
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:35.599
She stuck with him up to twenty eighteen. The last

714
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:37.799
key Insidious. The last key was the last time she's

715
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:39.000
credited as an assistant.

716
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.480
Oh okay, that's awesome. Good on her anything since.

717
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.160
No, that's basically and it's kind of kind of stale, right.

718
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.920
Look forward to see and you can still.

719
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.680
Follow her on Instagram and she's very active, so she

720
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:51.680
does have some things going on.

721
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.079
Well, I'm sure. I'm sure she's probably just working behind

722
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.359
the scenes on lots of stuff, But no, I think

723
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.839
that I did not realize that it was the same

724
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.519
director as Satanic Panic. Very talented, Yeah, very talented.

725
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.640
Very different tones for each one if you think about

726
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:06.079
different time.

727
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.319
Yeah, that's what I love. I love that.

728
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.720
So writers on this are Sean Keller and Jim Agnew.

729
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.640
They are the writing team behind Daria Argento's Jallo in

730
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:19.000
two thousand and nine. Interesting, Rage with Nicholas Cage in

731
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.279
twenty fourteen, OK, which was, like I want to say,

732
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.720
like he had He had several movies that were kind

733
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.279
of like Nicholas Cage has taken. I feel like Rage

734
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.480
was taken, but his daughter was killed, so then he

735
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.960
went after them rambo style. I remember it not being great,

736
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.279
but I remember it being enjoyable.

737
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.279
What you said, Rage with Nicholas Cage.

738
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:41.279
Yeah, twenty fourteen. Then they also wrote Broken Valves in

739
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.920
twenty fourteen, The Capture in twenty seventeen, and then All

740
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:48.359
We Destroy in twenty nineteen. Cinematographer is Mark Evans. He

741
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.880
gets to start on the Kings of Khan in twenty sixteen,

742
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.319
Hug It Out in twenty seventeen, Shoot Satanic Panic in

743
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.440
twenty nineteen, All That We Destroy in twenty nineteen, Spell

744
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.839
A Graham in twenty nineteen, Kevin Harts, Cold as Balls

745
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.000
in twenty twenty one, American melt Down in twenty twenty three,

746
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.920
and New Life in twenty twenty three. He actually had

747
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.599
to start doing Chelsea start as short films.

748
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.079
Though, Oh that's so cool. That's I love that, I

749
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:09.920
really do.

750
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.480
And I think if I remember correctly, Sean and Jim

751
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.279
were writers on a couple of those as well. So

752
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.680
this whole team has worked together under Chelsea for a while.

753
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.799
Very nice, very nice, And I love that she was

754
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.839
working at Blumhouse kind of helping them, you know, make

755
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.759
things happen. And then it was like time for you

756
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:25.880
to sit in the chair, yead.

757
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.799
So the cast includes Israel Brazard, who plays Spencer Harris

758
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.920
in the film He Gets to Start in twenty ten

759
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.799
with Romantically Challenged, Flipped in twenty ten, as well The Chaperone,

760
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.119
The Bling Rings, Such.

761
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.440
Chaperone with Triple h mm hmm. Nice. I just made

762
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:40.759
a joke about that movie the other day.

763
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.759
Yeah, that's a I've not seen that one, but I

764
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.200
have seen the Bling Ring. Did you see that one

765
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.640
about the kids that broke into celebrities homes in real life?

766
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.480
And Sophia Coppola directed it. No, it's for once on

767
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.519
my voodoo, okay for two. It's it's good. It's a solid,

768
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.480
solid movie, Like you kind of get the idea of

769
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.359
what's happening from the first like hour, and when they

770
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.720
get to like the court stuff, it doesn't really have

771
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:04.720
much of it. It just kind of like concludes, but

772
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.880
it's still still a pretty solid flick. Sons of Anarchy

773
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.719
twenty thirteen, Earth to Echo twenty fourteen, Jack of Red

774
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.320
Heart's Perfect High Haters, Good Kids, Fear the Walking Dead

775
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.840
in twenty sixteen, Say you Will in twenty seventeen, and

776
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.159
then in twenty seventeen. He also does Happy Death Day

777
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.559
to me or Happy Death Day then to all the

778
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.360
boys I've loved before extinction, Happy Death Day to you

779
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.360
all that we destroy and fear the Rain in twenty

780
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.360
twenty one. Okay, yeah, he's the main male lead and

781
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.079
Happy Death Day?

782
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:32.920
How do I not remember that?

783
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.760
Yeah he's the one. Yeah, oh yeah.

784
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.599
His hair is different and he's a little older.

785
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.440
He has a little bit of Jack quadness going, like

786
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:41.159
a smidge of it.

787
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.119
I could do that, Yeah, I could agree with that.

788
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.320
We also have Samantha Mathis on the cast who plays

789
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.599
doctor Rtry Harris. She gets her start in eighty eight

790
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.360
on Aaron's Way, Night Watch, in eighty eight, Cold Sassy Tree,

791
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.599
Pump Up the Volume, Extreme Close Up to My Daughter, Ferngully,

792
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.239
The Last Rainforest, The Music of Chance, Super Mario Brothers.

793
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.239
In ninety three, finally a feature filmed.

794
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.800
The Thing Called Love, Little Women, The American President, Broken Arrow,

795
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:10.320
Sweet Jane, Freak City, The Outer Limits, American Psycho, Harsh Realm,

796
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.039
Night Visions, The Mists of Avalon, Twilight Zone remake, Punisher,

797
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:18.360
Salem's Lot, Lawn Order, Criminal Intent, House, Nightmares, and Dream Skates,

798
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.119
Lost Gray's Anatomy, The New Daughter in two thousand and nine,

799
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.760
Buried Brian Realms in twenty ten, Nic Curb Your Enthusiasm,

800
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.519
Under the Dome, The Good Wife, The Strain, The Clove,

801
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.840
Hitch Killer, All That We Destroy in twenty nineteen, then

802
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.119
goes on to be in Bull Law and Order, SVU,

803
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.239
pet Cemetery, Bloodlines, and most recently last year twenty twenty

804
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:36.719
four is The Exorcism with Russell Crowe.

805
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:41.719
Really Yeah Wow, she's definitely aside from Jack Whaley. Yeah,

806
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:45.039
that's Frankly Frank Whilly, thank you. Aside from Frank Whaley.

807
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.239
I mean she is the veteran, yeah, on this film,

808
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.079
and it makes sense because she carries the movie. I

809
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.360
mean she's the lead. Oh yeah, her the Israel. Yeah,

810
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.599
he's like the He's definitely the supporting, supporting, but she

811
00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.840
is definitely the lead because it's mostly about how she

812
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.000
struggling with her son and everything. Yeah, they cast a

813
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.800
ringer for that. Yeah, she's great and she'd done so much.

814
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.639
She's fantastic in a pub up volume, especially too, which

815
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.199
will probably come to the show at some point.

816
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.360
You do love your Pump Up the Volume.

817
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.199
The only reason I'm holding off is because it's not

818
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.880
really available like streaming wise, you can buy that New

819
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.199
Blu ray through new Ish through Warner, but as far

820
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.599
as like actually streaming it, it's not really readily available.

821
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:28.880
New Line's weird like that some of their movies are

822
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.400
out there and some of them are well.

823
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.920
I mean, you got to remember the stuff made before

824
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:38.760
New Line basically bought by Warner and then the whole

825
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.599
mess when all collapsed and then Warner Brothers having to

826
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.639
kind of figure their stuff out. Again, A lot of

827
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.880
it has been licensed and sub licensed prior, so it

828
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.880
seems like, you know, the big titles, they've gotten them

829
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.400
sorted out. You know, The Night barn Elms Street.

830
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.039
Yeah, of course, Lord of the.

831
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.719
Rings and stuff. But yeah, those ones, they seem to

832
00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.960
have slipped through the cracks a bit.

833
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.400
I just want my fucking four ka Ricochet. That's all

834
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.440
I want in this life.

835
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.360
I know, buddy, I know.

836
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.159
I had to have a Blu ray made of that

837
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:09.679
movie so I could have it.

838
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.599
I just wish we would go we could get one

839
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.960
conversation where we didn't talk talk about Ricochet.

840
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:21.079
Yeah all right. We also have Aurora Paraneu, who plays

841
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.679
Ashley Prime in the film. She gets her start in

842
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.119
twenty ten on Pretty Little Liars Air Collision Chasing Life

843
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.639
equals a House Is Not a Home, Gem in The

844
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.880
Holograms in twenty fifteen, Freaks of Nature in twenty fifteen.

845
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.880
Do you see that Nature?

846
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:36.159
It sounds really familiar.

847
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.920
It came out around the same time as ninety nine

848
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.119
Homes because I rented both of them from Red Box.

849
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.119
Oh what a delightful night. Yeah, ninety nine Homes. I

850
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.400
love that movie. But that movie leaves you not feeling good.

851
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:46.599
I got you body.

852
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.119
Yeah, Passengers in twenty sixteen, The Carmichael Show twenty seventeen,

853
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.840
Truth or Dare from Blumhouse in twenty eighteen, Okay boo

854
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.639
in twenty eighteen, all that we destroy when they see us,

855
00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:00.039
Prodigal Sun series. It takes three Westworld in twenty twenty two, Chaos,

856
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.239
and we even have Crossword in twenty twenty four.

857
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.559
She is super super good in.

858
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.119
This, Yeah, especially since she plays.

859
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.960
When she gets thrown into it, you know, head first. Yeah,

860
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.760
she's very memorable in this film. Yeah.

861
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.800
Hey, so our first time watching this, I remember we

862
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.039
had seen the teaser for this one at the end

863
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.360
of what would have been I want to say, if

864
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.719
this is Mother's Day, that's May, so April would have been.

865
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.559
It might have been I'm just fucking with you.

866
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.199
I think it was I'm just fucking with you. So yeah,

867
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:31.840
I think we saw the end of We saw the

868
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.480
teaser because they had a little teaser always at the

869
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.679
end of the current one, and I remember we were

870
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.480
hooked by the teaser of it, and then watching it,

871
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.400
we were just kind of blown away because we were

872
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.320
putting things together. But then there was also just the

873
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.239
unpredictability of it.

874
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.800
Well, and here's the thing about that, you're wrong. No,

875
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.960
that's fair, but no, No, here's the thing about that.

876
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.880
As I was rewatching this, because the first time you

877
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.400
watch it, you kind of have no clue what's going on.

878
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:56.719
I mean, we opened with this young girl in a

879
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.159
room with a young guy. Yeah, and he starts talking

880
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.400
about her famili learly says, you know, play our song.

881
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.119
Song plays, she doesn't remember it.

882
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:05.800
She's come she comes out of liquid. First, the first

883
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.320
shot is her coming out of the black liquid.

884
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.599
But it's also but it's it's abstract. Yeah, we don't

885
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.079
we we we think we know that she came out

886
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.280
of the black lig We think we know what's going on,

887
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.519
or we think we know what we're seeing is better

888
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:18.039
way to put it.

889
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.079
Well, we see we see hands tending to her kind

890
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.920
of like cleaning her and dressing her. But yeah, then

891
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.199
she's presented to him in this bedroom and he's he's

892
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:26.519
just sitting there when she wakes up.

893
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:28.519
Yeah. And if you don't know that this movie deals

894
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.239
with the concept of cloning, yeah, then it could literally

895
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.360
be anything. She could be a vampire or from another dimension.

896
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.920
Or an alien. You have no way of knowing. All

897
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.880
you see is her coming out of this viscous black tar. Yeah,

898
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.039
and now she's you know, cleaned up and she's hanging

899
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:48.599
out with this guy. But it takes a very sudden

900
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.440
turn because he starts asking her questions that she doesn't

901
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.920
have the answers to, no memories of these things. He's

902
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.000
talking who she is?

903
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.079
He mean, he basically goes through like about three questions,

904
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.000
and then every every time that he gets this, he

905
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.880
always says, play our song, yes, and that is the

906
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.639
Baby's I can't remember this song. I think it's every

907
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:07.880
every Time I Love You or something like.

908
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.960
That, which I think it's every Time, Yeah, which is.

909
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.360
John Waite and the Babies. And she doesn't recognize the song,

910
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.039
and so that's when you know, he offers her some wine.

911
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.119
She apologizes to him because she says that I feel

912
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.440
nothing like I don't recognize you, and that's when he

913
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.440
basically breaks out and strangles her, takes her to the

914
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.920
floor and bashes her head until there's a nice puddle

915
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:28.239
of blood.

916
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.159
Butte and she's dead. Yeah, she's dead, period. And that

917
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.199
is just the opening. I mean, we haven't even gotten

918
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.760
the title yet no, because then we see him dragging

919
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.760
her naked body and the title is cut out of.

920
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:43.639
Out of so you see him between I was just

921
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.119
like that is haunting.

922
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.639
Yeah, no, it's it's really really memorable. And he's dragging

923
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.280
her through the letters of the title. We see her

924
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:54.559
get dumped into some.

925
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.039
Box deal container that is out in out in the open.

926
00:40:58.360 --> 00:40:59.840
They're out in the desert. This this house is out

927
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:03.159
in the desert. There's no houses around them. Basically, they're on.

928
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.880
Top of like a hill. They're like they're like the

929
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.159
one isolated house and a very rich neighbor.

930
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.679
Yeah. So then we see him dump the body and

931
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:11.960
as he does this, his mom pulls up in the car.

932
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.360
Yes and and uh and she looks like a business

933
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.400
professional driving a very expensive car. Yeah, And he tells

934
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.800
her it's done, it's done, it's done.

935
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.559
So that's when we see the mom push him and

936
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.639
push him a notebook and he basically says, you know,

937
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.239
I don't feel like you know, right, And she's like, well,

938
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:28.760
go ahead and write it then, and he's like, fine,

939
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.039
I will. And we find out that this is his mom,

940
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.599
doctor Victoria Harris, and she goes into her lab and

941
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.559
that's where we see the pool of black liquid that

942
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.079
we saw at the beginning. So we kind of put

943
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.159
together that she has a lot to do with this.

944
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.519
Yeah, she's some kind of a mad scientist. Yeah, some

945
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.639
kind of archetype of a mad scientist. And yeah, this

946
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.719
is where I was just really in. Yeah, but here's

947
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.119
something I noticed upon a second viewing because I never

948
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:54.760
watched it again. I mean a lot of these I

949
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:55.679
never revisited.

950
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:57.800
That's kind of what I love doing this. Yeah.

951
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.639
So one of the things that struck me is this

952
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:08.559
kind of like eerie, dark, messy science fiction tends to

953
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.920
be the realm of episodic TV. Yeah, because my first

954
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.159
thought I as I was like as it was all

955
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.960
coming together was Roger Corman Presents, which was literally, I

956
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.760
think an inspiration for this concept because Roger Corman Presents

957
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.599
was a new feature length movie every month made by

958
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.119
Roger Corman Studios. Yeah, they had a lot of very

959
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:32.199
odd ball dark science fiction. Oh yeah, then you have

960
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.440
stuff like Bone Saw, Bone Saw, but it also like

961
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.480
Tails from the Crypt, which would have the occasional very

962
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.360
dark science fiction. I feel like we don't get a

963
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.639
lot of feature length We do occasionally, but we don't

964
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.400
get a lot of feature length movies no that are

965
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:47.440
this kind of dark.

966
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:49.719
And I feel like this is this is way more

967
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.159
black Mirror than I would expect for Into the Dark.

968
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:53.639
And I mean, I'm not saying that this doesn't fit

969
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:54.159
with Into the Dark.

970
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.400
Absolutely don't know if it's by not fitting, because that's

971
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:57.840
the best part is that you don't know what you're

972
00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:58.760
going to get every month.

973
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.679
Yeah, but it feels very black mirr esque. And so

974
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.559
she is going through her lab notes, she gets a

975
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.880
call from her friend Parker, and this is where we

976
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.719
kind of get a taste of the technology in this

977
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.960
one as well, because she puts this little dot thing

978
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.760
on her forehead, her eyes roll into the back and

979
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.920
go black, and she basically virtual realities with Frank Whaley

980
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.920
who's playing Parker, and.

981
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.480
They're walking in like a beautiful wooded area, yeah, and

982
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.079
talking about how she's struggling with her son. And then

983
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.039
we start to become aware that he is the father, yeah,

984
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.519
and for some reason he can't be around. We never

985
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.360
get an explanation exactly.

986
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.719
He just says that he can't be around and that

987
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.400
she should understand why, and she always kind of resents

988
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:40.719
him for that especially towards the end.

989
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.199
Sure, sure, and that's revealed after many scenes when at

990
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.360
first it's just it's just kind of it's suggested that

991
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:50.760
for some reason he can't be around. Who knows what

992
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.360
it could be. But also I like how they're in

993
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.880
this like this place that's so beautiful. It's almost a

994
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:03.400
pharmaceutical commercial. Yeah, so gorgeous that the colors are so vibrant.

995
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.519
Well, and she makes pharmaceutical money, I would say, m

996
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.920
because she works. We find out that she works for

997
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.480
a facility that is Harris Genetics, and they're working on

998
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.599
basically cloning organs. That's that's her big kind of I

999
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:15.480
don't know if it's her.

1000
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.039
Well, she's a founding member of that of that and

1001
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:18.880
she's a geneticist.

1002
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.119
Yeah, and I don't know if she's actually presented that

1003
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.920
yet or if this is part of that study, because

1004
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.599
that's what it kind of seems like, is that the

1005
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.559
board wants to hear from her all the time, and

1006
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.519
she has this that she's focused on.

1007
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.880
Well, what she says in private is that she that

1008
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.920
she already has the breakthrough. Yeah, that's gonna make them

1009
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.760
the biggest name in organs in the world. Yeah. But

1010
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.480
she's far more obsessed with helping her son son. Yeah,

1011
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:47.360
and he has a serious problem, yeah, a predilection for murder.

1012
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:54.199
And he does this in a way that is brutal, upsetting,

1013
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.559
and pattern. He has a pattern to it every single time.

1014
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.400
And he even said even tells his mom, because the

1015
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.320
basic premise is is his mom keeps creating the same

1016
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.880
clone of this woman that he accident not accidentally, that

1017
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.960
he that he killed some years ago, and he keeps

1018
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.280
and she keeps cloning her over and over again and

1019
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.000
trying to humanize her a little more each time and

1020
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.400
try to make it seem to fit for him, because

1021
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:18.840
he keeps saying that it doesn't feel right. It's just

1022
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.800
it feels like the same thing over and over again.

1023
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.199
He can't have that real feel again.

1024
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.440
Well, And at first we think it is so she

1025
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.320
can understand why, Yeah, but it becomes very obvious that

1026
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.840
the entire purpose is to scratch the itch, yeah, to

1027
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:36.559
kill yeah.

1028
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.760
Because one of my favorite lines from Frank Wayler's character

1029
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.639
at Parker is she gets to a point where she

1030
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.119
is she's convinced that, like, you know, I think we've

1031
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.000
got a pattern here. I think we've got something that'll work.

1032
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.239
You know, he'll move out, and you know he'll go he.

1033
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:50.559
Might even be able to move out, he might even

1034
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:51.280
be able to go to college.

1035
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:52.599
And then he says, yeah, and then he can come

1036
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.480
back home and visit when he needs to get his fixed.

1037
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.199
No, it's it's it's really a great moment. Yeah, because

1038
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.280
this kid is a Yeah. And as the movie progresses,

1039
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.280
we find out that he was killing animals. There's a

1040
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.880
whole eerie scene where she's looking at two pets. Yeah,

1041
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.360
cemetery graves in the back of their house.

1042
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.559
And also, Spencer is a is a great artist. He's

1043
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.760
he's a great sketch artist. But he's sketching this dead woman.

1044
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.360
Over and over again, and he's clearly tormented.

1045
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.719
Yeah, with ants crawling on her face, with tire marks

1046
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:21.239
on her face.

1047
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.639
I love when he's sketching because when he's doing the ants,

1048
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.639
it's it's subtle, but it's noticeable. Yeah, the answer. Some

1049
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.199
of the ants are actually crawling as he's drawing her,

1050
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.360
which suggests some kind of a level of of non

1051
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:36.719
reality in his mind.

1052
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.880
Not to mention the fact that she winks. The drawing

1053
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.800
winks a couple of times too, like eyes flutter and whatnot.

1054
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.519
So the basic premise is she's designing a new clone

1055
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.239
every single time to kind of give him the fix,

1056
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.840
which is Ashley, and Ashley was her name, and she

1057
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.400
was a girl that was involved in some kind of crime.

1058
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.000
We don't know specifically what it was, but basically he

1059
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.519
was out walking one day on the out in the

1060
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.239
desert area. She gets kicked out of a car by

1061
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.320
her companion and basically has to go back to his

1062
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:05.760
place because that's the only place that she can.

1063
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.159
Go well, and he says, my mom could give you

1064
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:08.639
a ride. I don't have a car, but my mom

1065
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:09.440
could give you a ride.

1066
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.320
So Victoria's working late this night. She's a bit promiscuous

1067
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.599
to him and is like looking at his art and

1068
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.199
dancing with him, grinding up on him.

1069
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:18.960
She's flirty and having fun.

1070
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.320
They have some wine and then something goes wrong to

1071
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.960
where basically she says the wrong thing to him. He

1072
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.840
strangles her then bashes her head against the floor. Mom

1073
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.440
comes home and finds out and is just like, I'll

1074
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:31.199
take care of this.

1075
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.760
Me thinks there might be some psycho sexual elements because

1076
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.199
he really gets mad. She likes him. Yeah, I mean

1077
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.920
she's being you know, very friendly. We don't get to

1078
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:49.159
really look into her psyche as to if she was

1079
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.400
gonna rob them or if she literally just thought he

1080
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.199
was cute and wanted to kill because she says, she's

1081
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:55.320
just like, what are we gonna do for a couple

1082
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.800
hours time gets gets home, So it seems like she's

1083
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.920
just cute and flirty.

1084
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.639
I love her introduction though, too, despite the despite the

1085
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.360
whole thing of getting kicked out of the car, because after that,

1086
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.800
like they're walking and she like takes the like is like, hey,

1087
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.199
let give me your jacket, like not even like asking

1088
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:12.599
for it, just like, no, give it here.

1089
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.320
She's very forward in every way. Yeah, which is the

1090
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.199
opposite of him. He's very reserved, very quiet, very shy,

1091
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:21.960
and just seemed like a normal guy. You know. I

1092
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.239
would never I would never imagine he'd do it. Yeah,

1093
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.079
and then you find out driving a serial killer. Yeah.

1094
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:27.440
And then and then you also find out that the

1095
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:29.719
song was her song. It was never their song. It

1096
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.000
was a song that her grandmother had liked and she

1097
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.639
had picked up on it because she she says this,

1098
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.760
does she say the specific song, Yeah, she called basically like.

1099
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.880
What happens is she said, She asked if he likes music. Yeah,

1100
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:42.440
He's like, yeah, you and she's like yeah, and he's like,

1101
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.079
ask for something and it'll play it. Yeah, talking about

1102
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.000
the computer system in the house. So she says, play

1103
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.760
the babies, and it plays that specific song by the Babies. Yeah.

1104
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.760
So then she says, my grandma used to play the

1105
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.719
song for me, And that's where we find out that

1106
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.199
that and and the way they weave it in into

1107
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.079
the the main narrative is really cool. Yeah, because he's

1108
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.440
talking well at this point, he's not allowed to talk

1109
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.159
to the clone yet, a new clone. No mom is

1110
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.920
trying to give the Clone memories and personnel.

1111
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.480
Selectively, going through social media, picking out things selectively, and

1112
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.400
all this stuff is going on. Also while Spencer befriends

1113
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.199
the new neighbor girl who is in.

1114
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.920
Which and Spencer's not supposed to really leave the house.

1115
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.559
Now he can go on his walks, but that's that's

1116
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:23.119
the gist.

1117
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:27.159
But he encounters this attractive young woman, Marissa, who looks

1118
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.559
a little bit similar like to Ashley, No absolutely bit,

1119
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:32.679
just a smidge yeah, I mean they have different hair,

1120
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:34.440
but they have like a they have a similar height,

1121
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.039
similar facial features, similar skin tone, and he.

1122
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.880
Holds back from her at first, because I mean he

1123
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.519
she's moving into the house and you know, he's looking,

1124
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:44.079
he's looking at her, and she's like, you know, can

1125
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:45.719
can you help me? It helps some of the boxes,

1126
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.559
and then he immediately goes home, So he's trying to

1127
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:50.559
kind of respect the boundary at first, but then they

1128
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.480
kind of hit it off. She likes that he's weird,

1129
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.880
likes that his art style even gets him a shot

1130
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:55.440
at the gallery.

1131
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.760
Yeah, yeah, she she is like she's being that. And

1132
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.639
this this is where it gets a little funky too,

1133
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.440
because now that I'm thinking about it, both of these

1134
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:08.440
women are a little manic pixie dream girl a little bit,

1135
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.559
a little bit, you know, they're they're extra outgoing. They

1136
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.360
want to be around they want to be around him,

1137
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:14.760
they want to get to know him, they want to

1138
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.239
flirt with him, they want all these things, and he's

1139
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.800
you know, completely unprepared for it, completely uncomfortable with it. Well.

1140
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.199
I love the gallery scene specifically because so she had

1141
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.440
invited him to the gallery, and we we cut over

1142
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.079
there eventually and she's showing him art.

1143
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.320
Well, and we forgot to mention the one, one eerie

1144
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.760
thing about the art starts drawing her and he loves her.

1145
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.800
Yeah, he troubled that, so he presents her worries some

1146
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.199
presents her with a gift and then that gets the

1147
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.159
atreya cookies and whatnot. But no, Yeah, they're at this

1148
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.079
gallery and they're just looking at art, and then she

1149
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:47.239
surprises him by showing that what he she had art

1150
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.000
submitted on his behalf, which is the one that he

1151
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.719
gave her, which we joked about because it's just like, yeah,

1152
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.880
I know the gallery. He freaked out when he saw.

1153
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.000
Yeah, he freaked out. I mean he told me no

1154
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.000
and I told him too bad. Well, and and she said,

1155
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:03.400
is that the art gallery owner because her parents are away? Yeah,

1156
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.320
and she's home from college. Ye, And she's like, oh,

1157
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.199
the owner of the gallery knows my parents. So I

1158
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.679
was able to yeah.

1159
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.519
And so I mean that then he he doesn't necessarily

1160
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.239
freak out, but he's just you can kind of tell

1161
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.880
he's he's not used to this, because he's like, oh, like,

1162
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:19.360
you know, why didn't you ask me? She's like I

1163
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.199
wanted to surprise you. And he's like, well, that's my art,

1164
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.400
and she's like, you gave it to me. And then

1165
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.639
slowly he kind of comes into it, but he's still

1166
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:27.039
uncomfortable with it at first.

1167
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.760
Yeah. No, And and it's a it's a great dichotomy

1168
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.800
because as this is happening, it's juxtaposed with his mother yea,

1169
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:40.679
befriending this clone for the slaughter yeah, and and having

1170
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.800
human connection yeah.

1171
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.119
With her and all the while this is going on too,

1172
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.800
like two more Ashley's get killed in the process, Like

1173
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.199
she has to befriend two different clones basically. So it

1174
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.360
gets to the point where Marissa takes Spencer back home

1175
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.639
and just so happens to see Ashley staying in one

1176
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.199
of the rooms of the house and notices her. Then

1177
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.079
comes back the next day and takes a picture of

1178
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.400
her and Victoria together. Yeah, and that kind of complicates

1179
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:04.920
things a bit.

1180
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.960
Well, yeah, you think. And while all this is going on,

1181
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.760
she's occasionally meeting with the father again, yeah, and talking

1182
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:16.360
about how her entire plan is, yes, is to pacify

1183
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:22.000
his need to kill because after she's fed information to

1184
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.480
this clone, and this clone has been more like the

1185
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:26.400
girl that he killed, Yeah, like she has a little

1186
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.320
bit more personality, a little bit some memories she implanted

1187
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:33.039
back into her. He felt good, Yeah, well, he feels

1188
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.079
so gross. To say he felt good after killing her.

1189
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.719
Yeah, and then Parker, his dad the entire time is

1190
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.599
just like you can't fix him, like there is something

1191
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:42.519
wrong with him. He needs to have a professional he

1192
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.000
needs to be seen by people, and she's just like, no, no,

1193
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.880
I can do this. So if I was to guess

1194
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.519
as to why they don't see each other, I bet

1195
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.559
he's on the other side of the world probably or something.

1196
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.000
They're a string, I would say it sounds like, I mean,

1197
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.960
obviously they're not still married. That's very clear. Yeah, And

1198
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.920
for whatever reason, I like that we don't really find

1199
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.559
out because it's not really prudent why he's not around.

1200
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.880
He's just kind of the good voice of reason that

1201
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.719
she doesn't want to listen to. And he also never

1202
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:12.000
really loses his cool, like he's always kind of the

1203
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.599
same temperament and everything. He never really shouts.

1204
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.199
You know, he could have been in prison, and.

1205
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:18.719
That's very entirely possible too. Never thought about that.

1206
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.239
Because she does resent him a lot when he says like,

1207
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.360
this is the reality of whatever, And if you were

1208
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.760
in prison, he'd have a pretty realistic opinion of what

1209
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.280
to do with people who hurt people, especially if he's

1210
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.320
currently doing time. That's a really good I had just

1211
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.280
thought of. That really does make sense because why wouldn't

1212
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.639
prisoners be able to have like the allotted time to speak.

1213
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.920
And also he never speaks with his son ever, No,

1214
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:44.760
which is also kind of strange. I had wondered it

1215
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.719
ended up not happening, But I had wondered a few

1216
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:48.559
times if we were going to find out he was

1217
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:51.079
like a computer simulation of her ex husband or something

1218
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:52.239
that never got revealed.

1219
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:52.679
Never. Ever.

1220
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:54.679
One thing we didn't mention is during those scenes where

1221
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:58.719
they're talking, they just lean in on these little tiny

1222
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.920
digital glitches that reminds you that what you're seeing as

1223
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:03.599
a facsimile and not reality.

1224
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.239
Yeah, and that also goes throughout the anytime the cloning

1225
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.000
process happens, we have always have like a little bit

1226
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.079
of a glitch kind of speeding things up and whatnot.

1227
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.840
Because the main thing is that she'll get the clone

1228
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.679
out of the out of the goo, put it in

1229
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.039
the shower, dress it, leave it in the bedroom, and

1230
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.079
then Spencer would usually come in, but then she starts

1231
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:20.480
locking the door to keep him out.

1232
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:24.159
Yeah. Yeah, and all it's doing is forcing him out

1233
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.800
of the house. Yeah, because he can't be around this clone,

1234
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.800
and he can't really be around his mother. And while

1235
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.079
all that is happening, his mother is constantly being hassled

1236
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.199
by the company. Yeah, this major science company.

1237
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:40.639
They got a stockholders meeting, the board wants to meet,

1238
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:42.840
and she even it gets to the point, basically towards

1239
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.159
the climax, where she goes to the meeting and then

1240
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.760
finds out that Marissa has also found out that Ashley

1241
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.639
is a missing person and also a wanted criminal, and

1242
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.239
it's just like, what's going on, Like, what's your family

1243
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:57.920
up to? What what are you doing with this girl?

1244
00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.880
So this basically takes us the.

1245
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.519
Well and the mom. One of the other ways she's

1246
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.000
kind of justifying what she's doing is she is saying,

1247
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.880
like this could be a breakthrough incognitive behavioral therapy for

1248
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.079
people who are prone to violence. Yea, But I think

1249
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.960
that that's mostly just her way of kind of justifying

1250
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.679
that she's putting all of her effort and resources into it.

1251
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:21.280
There's a great part what she's saying, like you need

1252
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.519
to come here, and she's like, well, my name's on

1253
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.039
the side of the goddamn building. I think they trust

1254
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:26.880
me a little bit. And she's like they want.

1255
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:29.199
To hear from you, from you, Yeah, tell them this.

1256
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.199
And they even say like, am I going to have

1257
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.119
the biggest breakthrough in organ donation of all time? Is

1258
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.079
my spokesperson even going to be there? Yeah, like they

1259
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.119
want to know so. And that also tells you that

1260
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:44.639
she's some kind of a public facing part of this,

1261
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.199
of this organization as well. And it's clear that she's obsessed,

1262
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.320
you know, far more with helping her son, which makes sense,

1263
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.840
but this cloning process, she's basically taken it further because

1264
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.559
when she says like this could be a way to

1265
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.920
help with cognitive behavioral therapy and all this stuff, her

1266
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.679
ex husband even says like, remember how hard it was

1267
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.960
to get to get them to allow you to make

1268
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.039
just organs? Yeah, imagine how hard to be to get

1269
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.920
them to let you to let you make a whole human?

1270
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.760
Yeah for killing? Yeah, for murder.

1271
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:20.320
So basically our conclusion takes us to a point that

1272
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.599
Spencer's art book becomes a huge point of focus because

1273
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.480
Ashley ends up stealing it looking through it and finds

1274
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.440
the sketchings of her bloody nose, dripping ants crawling on

1275
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.400
her face and gets very upset. Yeah, And that plays

1276
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.800
back into a lot of the flashbacks too, and also

1277
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.679
the current clones, because anytime the art book is shown,

1278
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:40.559
that page usually happens and that's usually what sets it off, right,

1279
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:43.639
So she gets the art book flips through it. By

1280
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.039
this point, Marissa has also snuck into the house because

1281
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:48.480
she's found out the information, and she runs right into

1282
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.079
Spencer and she's like, you know, you have to tell

1283
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.679
me what's going on. Victoria's gotten the message on the

1284
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.159
phone because she keeps a track of all her son's activities,

1285
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.760
so she sees the text from Marissa, so she's racing

1286
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.920
back home. Marissa in up unfortunately getting on his bad

1287
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.360
side and has to defend herself. But that leads to

1288
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.800
a glass getting broken and Spencer stabbing her with the glass.

1289
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.920
But the interesting thing, and I don't know if you

1290
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.280
thought about this or not, he doesn't kill her, just

1291
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.920
like he killed no the other the other girl.

1292
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:18.920
He says he has to. He says, I have to

1293
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:20.800
do this, because she evens like, you know, you don't

1294
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.000
have to do this. He's like, no, I have to,

1295
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.880
and then he just stabs her a couple times in

1296
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:25.199
the chest with the glass.

1297
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.079
And I got the sense there was definitely a sense

1298
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.800
of self defense on his part, Yeah, because she was

1299
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:32.000
fighting back right away.

1300
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:32.559
Yeah.

1301
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.000
But also I got the sense that he was killing

1302
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.599
her to protect his mother. Yeah, because he has to

1303
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.519
protect her for all the messed up stuff she's doing. Yeah, which,

1304
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:42.440
by the way, he never asked her to do.

1305
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.360
No. Well, she even has a hard time early on

1306
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.639
with Parker because Parker is like, you know, you have

1307
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.480
to you have to see this. You have to see

1308
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.280
the process. You can't just go in and be the

1309
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:51.960
cleanup crew.

1310
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.320
Yeah. One of the one of the elements that we

1311
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.639
we didn't quite mention all. I think it's it's obvious,

1312
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.360
is she never witnesses him killing these these women.

1313
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:00.000
Yeah.

1314
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.519
She has him write in a notepad everything that happened,

1315
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:04.159
how he feels.

1316
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.400
One camera, she does have the one that she watches

1317
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.159
from the bedroom, so she does see him kill on

1318
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:08.880
camera once.

1319
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:11.400
Well. Yeah, but yes, but her ex has to convince

1320
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:12.880
her to put a camera to do that. Yeah, that's

1321
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.639
so that she can actually see it. And she even

1322
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.239
says like, but by observing, I'm changing the results or whatever.

1323
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:21.440
He's like, that doesn't matter the amount of error that

1324
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.960
would come from you observing, You'll get such better information

1325
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.280
if it's not secondhand. So he makes a really good point.

1326
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:35.400
But also she knows what she's doing is not straight science. Yeah,

1327
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.519
it's not moral.

1328
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.039
No, well, and we don't know how many times she's

1329
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:41.400
done this. That's one of my favorite lines from Ashley

1330
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.119
is so basically what happens is Ashley gets out of

1331
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.719
her room and she finds her way into the lab,

1332
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.119
finds the voicemails on her phone, finds the footage of

1333
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.639
her being created over and over again, finds all these

1334
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.760
you know, missing and wanted posters, and so that's when

1335
00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:59.719
Victoria and Spencer realize that she's missing. Goes into the

1336
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:02.159
labt and Victoria like infronts her and she's like, you know,

1337
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:06.119
you're an incredible piece of work, Like you're a miracle.

1338
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.400
You're literally like the most special girl out there. And

1339
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:10.920
one thing leads to another. She gets hit with the

1340
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:14.400
hammer and Spencer comes in and that's when he tackles her.

1341
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.320
All this is going on, though, they're basically making a

1342
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.239
point that Ashley has no idea how many times she's

1343
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.519
been killed. She even says that to Victoria, how many

1344
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:23.440
times has he killed me?

1345
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:26.840
Yeah? And that's chilling No, the whole thing is so

1346
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:32.639
is so eerie because the mother's insanity is growing. Yeah,

1347
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.159
it was very classic mad scientist concept.

1348
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.400
And he looks a couple of years younger on that

1349
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:38.920
first murder when I was watching it.

1350
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.280
He definitely looks younger. It might also be the way

1351
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:43.639
he was acting to I mean like literally, I mean

1352
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.239
like as a person, because he was very reserved by

1353
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:50.599
the time that he's killing these clones for his mother. Basically, Yeah,

1354
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.320
he's a little bit more assertive with his mother. He's

1355
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.639
a little bit more assertive in general until he's kind

1356
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.039
of in public, and even then, he was more confident

1357
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.719
around this new girl than he ever had been before.

1358
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.119
So there are a lot of things have changed about him.

1359
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.880
Whether it was six months ago or a really long

1360
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.880
time ago doesn't necessarily matter too much.

1361
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.280
And he loves her because I mean she hits him

1362
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.559
anytime that she finds a new body, basically. And that's

1363
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:18.960
one thing I noticed too, is anytime he takes the slap,

1364
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.840
he looks up and then looks back at her, like

1365
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.199
he accepts his punishment, knows what he did, never lashes

1366
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.800
out towards her. His mother's protected. That's his mom.

1367
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.519
Well, and I think his mother doesn't want to accept that.

1368
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.760
It's well, she doesn't want to accept a lot of things. Yeah,

1369
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.280
but it's a crime of compulsion. And that's the problem

1370
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:39.440
with serial killers in general, is that they're almost always

1371
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.280
compelled because they have to inside, they feel in need.

1372
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.559
You know, they are like three times types of crimes.

1373
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:51.199
There's crimes of profitt crimes of passion, and crimes of compulsion.

1374
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:55.519
And crimes of compulsion are the hardest to control period

1375
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.039
because they're not thought out, because they can't be.

1376
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.880
No, you listen to any serial killer that has multiple

1377
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.079
bodies under the under their belt. It comes always with

1378
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:06.679
that thing of like I just thought, this is what

1379
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:07.679
I was supposed to do.

1380
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.480
Well, except the ones that were like killing for higher

1381
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:12.679
and stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah, but which but then there

1382
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:14.840
you go then crimes profit. Yeah, and then of course

1383
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.599
there are people who kill because they're angry in the moment,

1384
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:22.280
in rhimes of passion. So you're you're right, it's this

1385
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.039
is when we start to realize that this isn't going

1386
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.400
to work. But the real, the real problem is that

1387
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.280
her son needs to be put away.

1388
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.000
Yeah, and she doesn't want to do it.

1389
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.480
No, she doesn't want to give him up. It's selfish, yeah,

1390
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:36.599
It's it's really selfish.

1391
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.000
Yeah. So basically we get to the conclusion where she

1392
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.719
has been chased outside by Spencer. Spencer's looking around for

1393
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.199
she gets the upper hand on him, ends up killing

1394
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.079
him basically the exact same way that he kills her

1395
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.079
every time. So she strangles him passes it on the driveway.

1396
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.400
Right as this is happening, though, the cops pull up

1397
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.559
because one thing we've got to mention is that Marissa

1398
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:57.719
got a call off because she shouted to the system

1399
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.719
to call nine one one. So the cop show up,

1400
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.599
They pull Ashley away, put her back in the car.

1401
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.519
Victoria comes out just completely broken down by her death

1402
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:09.199
of her son and she's crying everything. And then the

1403
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.920
final scene she's talking to she's talking to Parker.

1404
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:16.480
Well, remember the police, they assume that this that this

1405
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.400
is just the original person who is a wanted criminal.

1406
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.840
You just murdered this innocent young man violently.

1407
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.320
So she's in the back of the cop car crying.

1408
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:30.000
And no one suspects no, this famous and rich and

1409
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:33.719
powerful woman. Nope, they assume she's just the victim of

1410
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.079
a sad crime.

1411
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.000
So she is talking to Parker and basically says, well, actually,

1412
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.599
Parker is like, you know, I tried to tell you, like,

1413
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:43.679
you know this, this was nothing. You could never fix this.

1414
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:45.599
You try to your best, but he was always going

1415
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:48.599
to have this path. She's burning the document, shredding things,

1416
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:51.400
like all everything of his notebook, everything of the art book.

1417
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:52.480
All that stuff's going away.

1418
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:56.239
And she tells her ex, I'm going to take my severance,

1419
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:57.920
sell the house and go away.

1420
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.639
Yeah and so and also I'm never going to see

1421
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.800
you again. Takes the thing off, breaks it in half.

1422
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.280
Which I was impressed because it was very small.

1423
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.400
It was very small. So she's in her lab watching

1424
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.199
a video of Parker, or of Spencer when he was

1425
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.800
seven years old playing with I believe it was the

1426
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.119
first dog that's not Lucky, which is Max Max. Yeah,

1427
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.840
and then we hear something bubble. We turn around into

1428
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.599
the black liquid and oh, a new Spencer's being born.

1429
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.480
And we knew, yeah, oh we knew. Yeah, we knew

1430
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:27.039
she was going to have to make a new Spencer.

1431
01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:27.400
Yeah.

1432
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:29.440
The real question is what what does she do with

1433
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:30.159
the new Spencer?

1434
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:33.599
That's my question too, But also how did she clone? Uh?

1435
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:36.400
Because if you follow anything with clones you have to

1436
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.880
actually like have the baby and start that point and whatnot.

1437
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:42.039
So well, but but but it gets it gets more

1438
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.800
murky because I mean, this is science fiction. But here's

1439
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.639
the question, here's the darkest part to me. She wants

1440
01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:49.639
Spencer back.

1441
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:50.199
Mm hmm.

1442
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.760
Does that mean that she is going to train the

1443
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:59.280
new Spencer to kill as well because she's lost all

1444
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:03.159
of her morals if he was a killer? Is she

1445
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.079
going to struggle to make this clone a monster just

1446
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:07.440
like her?

1447
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:07.880
Boy?

1448
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:08.840
I think she is.

1449
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:10.599
I think she is too. I mean that everything that

1450
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.840
points to her actions in this have demonstrated that she

1451
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.519
has only cared about him and herself, because like that's

1452
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.400
one thing at the at the conclusion is she even

1453
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.960
tells Spencer like, you know, go like I'll take care

1454
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.159
of this or no. Spencer tells her to go like,

1455
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:25.760
you know, I'll take the raft for it, and she's like, no,

1456
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.280
We're going to do this together. So they were always

1457
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:29.920
in it together and this they were always going to

1458
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.199
basically be burned to the ground together. And that's what

1459
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.760
happens at this is she's lost everything and now she's

1460
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:36.840
just going to probably keep repeating the process until she

1461
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:38.480
gets it right, which is never gonna happen.

1462
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:42.360
Yeah, And and and she refuses to accept her son

1463
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.039
for who he is and what he needs, which is

1464
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:46.360
probably to be locked up.

1465
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:46.880
Yeah.

1466
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.000
It's very very tragic, it is, and it's well played.

1467
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.559
And you know what movie reminded me of this, hm

1468
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.800
quite a bit? What was this? That one with Judge

1469
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.559
Reinold No every time? No. But you know what reminded

1470
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.719
me of this in tone was Brain Dead.

1471
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:08.559
Yeah, the Julie Corman producer, Yeah, and Bill Pullman.

1472
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:14.039
Because it was about scientists and developing all these systems

1473
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:17.079
and how you killing final shots and how you eventually

1474
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.800
lose your your scruples because you're so obsessed with the

1475
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:24.079
success of your experiments. And ironically enough, like I said earlier,

1476
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.760
that was originally supposed to be well, it wasn't on

1477
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:31.000
Roger Corman Presents, but it was originally a screenplay that

1478
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.760
was pitched to I want to say, The Twilight Zone

1479
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.880
or The Outer Limits. But when it wasn't bought, Corman

1480
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.559
bought it and then twenty years later or whatever, they

1481
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:42.199
turned it into a feature film screenplay. And it has

1482
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.800
that vibe it does. It has that same vibe of

1483
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:49.360
that like that weird, stilted sci fi scientists who's lost

1484
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.960
their mind concept. And I swear it's like television just

1485
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.920
is hungry for stories like that, and I love them. Well.

1486
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.079
It's like I I'm always a big fan of the

1487
01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:59.840
Brain that Wouldn't Die. And what I love about The

1488
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.800
Rain that Wouldn't Die specifically, is that it starts out

1489
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.440
as as a love story because he brings his wife

1490
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:09.800
back from a tragic accident. What he feels to realize

1491
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.719
is his wife is now a monster or controlling a monster,

1492
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:15.519
and a monster herself, so that he is trying to

1493
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.400
basically save her. But what he's doing is completely bringing

1494
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.559
his own device. And I've always loved that. M h.

1495
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.119
So yeah, but yeah no, and so this is this

1496
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:27.559
is one that it doesn't leave a great taste in

1497
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:28.960
your mouth. It's not meant to be.

1498
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:29.480
It's bleak.

1499
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:31.599
It's it's very bleak, but it does have an element

1500
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.000
of fun. I mean the world building because they're in

1501
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:36.119
the not too distant future, so they have you know,

1502
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.119
cell phones and tablets, but they're slightly different.

1503
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.800
They're clear, and apparently they're mocked after Black Mirror because

1504
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.400
it's the only trivia that I can find is that

1505
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.280
they resemble pieces that are in black mirror.

1506
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.719
I feel like that's just a common trope. I mean,

1507
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.559
to have just a piece of plexiglass that like projects

1508
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:51.639
everything on it. I feel like that's just yeah. I mean,

1509
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.119
they did that in the last episode of Weeds. That

1510
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.199
is true because it took place in the future.

1511
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.599
So we don't unfortunately have any budgets or notes as

1512
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.000
But what are your final thoughts on twenty Nineteen's all

1513
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:03.599
that we destroy?

1514
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:09.599
This one is super memorable. It doesn't quite it doesn't

1515
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:15.199
quite exude that holiday feel that some of the ones

1516
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.880
that I kind of were my favorites had lat Yeah,

1517
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.159
but I think that this one, just as a film

1518
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.320
is really intriguing. Great performances, great concept, and I think

1519
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.119
that overall its moral its moral points are very fair

1520
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.280
as well. But they don't spoon feed it to you.

1521
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.559
You kind of get there on your own, And that's

1522
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:37.360
something that I feel like has become less and less

1523
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:40.320
common to let us kind of make our own decisions

1524
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:44.159
instead of having some ending fucking monologue to tell us

1525
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:47.480
what the moral point was. Yeah, which makes me insane

1526
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.599
because we're supposed to get there on our own. That's

1527
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:53.239
the point of the story. I hate when there's that

1528
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.239
moment where it's like, but let me explain to you

1529
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:58.079
why this didn't work. Yeah, because in the end you're

1530
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:00.000
supposed to give up blah blah blah blah blah. Although

1531
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.119
I do think they could have been heavier with with

1532
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.239
her ex kind of saying being a little bit harsher

1533
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:09.840
about like you need to let him, you know, you

1534
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.320
need to let him. I'd go he's there a little bit,

1535
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:12.800
but not a lot.

1536
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:14.559
I'd be curious if there's more of him on the

1537
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:16.000
cutting of the cutting room floor.

1538
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:17.840
Honestly, I doubt it because he was the biggest name

1539
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:19.640
in the whole that's true. Yeah, that is I actually

1540
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:21.680
would be I wouldn't be surprised they used every second

1541
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.840
of footage they got with him. Imagine how nice of

1542
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:25.239
a payday that must have been for him, though.

1543
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.520
Yeah, like on a nice walk.

1544
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:27.680
I want you to go on a nice walk in

1545
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.239
a beautiful arboretum and talk to this, to this beautiful

1546
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.119
actress and uh that's it, you know, and have fun. Yeah,

1547
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:36.640
I bet it was a great two days. But yeah,

1548
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:37.520
it's this.

1549
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:42.239
This is definitely one that I recommend highly because of

1550
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:44.880
the fact that it has the moral compass there, but

1551
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.399
also on top of that, you've got the great performances

1552
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.159
from everyone. Every everyone in this knew the knew the

1553
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:54.640
assignment and came to play. And you also are shown

1554
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.239
horrific imagery over and over again, but you kind of

1555
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.119
want to see it in the sense that you're getting

1556
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.439
more of the story each time too.

1557
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:01.680
Yeah.

1558
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:03.800
Absolutely, so you're kind of left on that at that

1559
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:07.079
point of Okay, I understand what's going on, but like,

1560
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:08.279
what is the endgame of this?

1561
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:12.359
Yeah, and they're really isn't well And that's really her problem.

1562
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.840
It's I don't think it's a story point, a plot hole. Yeah,

1563
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:20.640
I think it's just character. It's she's she's gone crazy. Yeah,

1564
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.159
but she never has that wild eyed moment, which I

1565
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:27.279
think is what makes it scarier. Yeah, she's just she's

1566
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.279
just like, oh, well I'll do this and everything's perfectly justified.

1567
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.479
And that's terrifying.

1568
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.199
Yeah, it is, absolutely Yeah. So yeah, this is one

1569
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.039
we definitely recommend. Another one will recommend tying into the

1570
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:41.119
family element. This is the one. I like the body,

1571
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:42.800
don't wrong, I really like the body.

1572
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:43.720
Yeah.

1573
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:46.359
Flesh and Blood from twenty eighteen with Dermot Melrooney.

1574
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.359
Yeah, yeah, that was before I had introduced you. Yes,

1575
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.880
and so that was the second episode, yes, and it

1576
01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:56.079
was the Thanksgiving episode, but instead of it being some

1577
01:09:56.279 --> 01:10:00.439
broad Thanksgiving episode like this, Yeah, this is our honorable

1578
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.479
mention of an episode you should check out. It's about

1579
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:07.640
a young girl who is basically a no, not basically

1580
01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:10.920
is a prisoner. Well, she's a gorophobic, but we start

1581
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:14.159
to realize that she's that her father. She's kind of

1582
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.000
a prisoner of her father. Yes, and by kind of,

1583
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:18.920
I mean literally yes. And there's so much to it.

1584
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:22.000
It's so dark, it's so twisted, it's it's painful.

1585
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:23.880
It will hurt you. This one will hurt you, just

1586
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.520
like all that we destroy hurts you. This one will

1587
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.760
hurt you too. But you will not see it coming

1588
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.439
in the best way possible to where you'll have to

1589
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:32.319
finish it out.

1590
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.199
Yeah, finish your turkey before you start watching that if

1591
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.479
you watch it on Thanksgiving. But it was to me,

1592
01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:40.359
it was the hook for me because the Body was

1593
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.720
this you know, kind of cool horror movie. It had

1594
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.640
some laughs, it had some dark humor, it had you know, charming,

1595
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.720
a charming lead lead actor. And then the next one

1596
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:50.319
was just that.

1597
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.720
Yeah, it was it was a family. Do you like Thanksgiving?

1598
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:54.960
Do you like feeling bad?

1599
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.720
Yes? Yes, yes, and yes no, no, and and and

1600
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:00.520
I think that was what made me, Oh wow, I

1601
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.640
got to tune in. I got to tune in every

1602
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.640
month because I want to see where we're headed next.

1603
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.560
So I really, I really think that now that it's

1604
01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:14.479
been five years since it aired, roughly the whole series,

1605
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:19.199
I really look back very fondly. I'm already getting nostalgia

1606
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:21.279
for how fun it was to watch a brand new

1607
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:26.000
Blumhouse movie every single month and have it to be

1608
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:28.640
Even the ones I didn't like that much, they took chances,

1609
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:32.359
they tried different things. Some of them were I was

1610
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.760
shocked how brilliant they were. Some of them I thought

1611
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:36.680
were a little cliche. Some of them were cliche in

1612
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:38.600
a really fun way. Some were cliche in a way

1613
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.680
that I didn't like as much. Some of them were

1614
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:41.439
a little half baked.

1615
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:42.960
Some of them go great, and some of them just

1616
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.479
can't get that ending, but they try, and.

1617
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.399
Some of them you wish they wouldn't end. Yeah, And

1618
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:50.600
that's that's what I like about, is that you got

1619
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:52.640
something new. It's kind of like the joke about like,

1620
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.359
oh you don't like the Ramones, Well, don't worry. Every

1621
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:56.479
song's two minutes. You'll find when you're like, like, we'll

1622
01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:02.079
get there. And these eighty five minute you know, Maxim movies, Yeah,

1623
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.760
they really are a lot of fun. And this is

1624
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.640
something that I've talked about on here a lot. I'm

1625
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.079
so tired of the expectation when you go to the

1626
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:12.920
theater or whatever is that it needs to be the

1627
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.119
new best movie you've ever had seen the wow you

1628
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:21.000
we're we consume media. Yeah, can it just be good? Yeah?

1629
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:22.119
And we just had a good time.

1630
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:23.199
Yeah.

1631
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.000
I like that. Yeah, so like and that's what they

1632
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.279
did with Into the Dark.

1633
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.720
This show has given me, has given me both the

1634
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.600
platform to share the things I love, but also has

1635
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.720
given me the opportunity to go back on things that

1636
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:36.359
I that I'm like, oh yeah, I like that, Like

1637
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:38.479
we should talk about that, and then some you know,

1638
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.039
something like tough Turf is just like I have to

1639
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.079
have tough Turf in my life forever now, Like there's

1640
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.880
just no getting around it. I love the idea that

1641
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.159
there are things that you've already seen that you can

1642
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:51.119
go back and reappraise and having had the like you said,

1643
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:54.720
like five years since we watched this freaking hit beautifully

1644
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:56.800
and it was kind of that reminder of oh yeah,

1645
01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.640
like even though I've seen this, you can still your

1646
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.800
mind and change things. You can pick up on and

1647
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:06.279
everything rewatching things in a new light, new age best

1648
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:07.199
experience sometimes.

1649
01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:10.039
Yeah. And and of all of these, the only one

1650
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:14.000
we've revisited is Pilgrim, Yeah, because it's a Baffo Soco

1651
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.600
Thanksgiving horror movie and there aren't that many.

1652
01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:20.640
No, and it is so fun insane.

1653
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:24.880
So no, I really this one stands out out of

1654
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:29.199
the pack for being very different, very fun, and very interesting.

1655
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:31.560
It makes you think a lot. I like when they

1656
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:33.520
end kind of dowur because you know that, like in

1657
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:34.880
two or three of them, you're gonna get one that's

1658
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.720
kind of funny, yeah, or kind of silly. You're gonna

1659
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:39.720
get something different every month. Yeah, And I love that though.

1660
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:41.119
It's just like Tilson, the Crip, Tails and the Crib

1661
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.399
had some really fun endings, had some really down endings,

1662
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.960
and had some really like holy shit endings, and we

1663
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.479
remember it, yeah, we do. So we also like to

1664
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:51.479
end the show with a couple of recommendations. The first

1665
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.479
one I Have This Week from twenty thirteen is plus one,

1666
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:57.319
currently available on AMC Plus and IFC Films. This is

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:59.520
three college friends hit the biggest party of the year,

1668
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.880
where miss serious phenomenon disrupts the night, quickly descending into

1669
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.680
chaos that challenges their friendships and whether they can stay alive.

1670
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:09.319
It sounds horror esque, but I will say it leans

1671
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.760
way more into sci fi than it does horror. But

1672
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.279
Plus one was a movie that just I didn't expect

1673
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.039
to enjoy as much as I did, because it just

1674
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:19.600
kind of was like, oh, Clones crash a birthday party.

1675
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.199
This this sounds zany. It goes way deeper than that. Yeah,

1676
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.880
Plus one is fantastic. Second recommendation, I'm gonna go with

1677
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:32.079
twenty eighteen's Annihilation, currently on Paramount plus. Biologists signs up

1678
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:34.439
for a dangerous secret expedition in which the laws of

1679
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:39.119
nature don't apply. Two things about Annihilation. It's not you

1680
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.520
are not going to expect the amount of gore in

1681
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:46.399
this movie. Correct, it's insane? Second thing line of light

1682
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:47.520
watch up afterwards.

1683
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.840
Yeah yeah, yeah, go with something like Kramer versus Kramer. Yeah,

1684
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.279
actually that does end in a good note. Yeah, So

1685
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.880
I as far as my selection for this show to

1686
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.920
like a movie that reminds me of it, I went

1687
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.600
a little more like to the literal feeling it gave me,

1688
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.079
and I went really recent. I went with twenty twenty

1689
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.600
three's Infinity Pool. Oh yeah, which is what I want

1690
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.880
to revisit by Brandon Cronenberg. Ironically, it's on Hulu right now. Yeah,

1691
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:21.159
I should rewatch that like asap. I think she'd love it. Basically,

1692
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:23.600
the rundown is James and m Foster are enjoying an

1693
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.399
all inclusive beach vacation in the fictional island of La

1694
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.640
Tolka when a fatal accident exposes the results perverse resorts,

1695
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:35.760
perverse subculture of hedonistic tourism, reckless violence, and surreal horrors.

1696
01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.960
It does, and it's not a big spoiler. The movie's

1697
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:40.880
been out a few years, but but it involves cloning.

1698
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:44.079
And basically, if you commit a terrible crime on this island,

1699
01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:48.880
an unforgivable crime, all crimes basically are punishable by death, yeah,

1700
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.720
which keeps the crime rate low. But if you're rich,

1701
01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:55.520
they'll clone you and kill and they'll execute the clone. Yep.

1702
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:56.920
As many times as you want.

1703
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:00.319
As many times as you fucking want, And it was

1704
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:01.840
one of those movies that as it was happening, I

1705
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.319
thought it was really jarring, yeah, which I think was

1706
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:06.800
on purpose. And then as I thought about it more,

1707
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:08.600
I was like, this is such a great example of

1708
01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:12.680
like of of poverty tourism, yea, of going to a

1709
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:16.319
nation that's very poor and desperate and just doing whatever

1710
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:19.199
you want because you have because even I mean in

1711
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:21.960
a place like that, even having upper middle class puts

1712
01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:24.239
you pretty high above the locals.

1713
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:29.600
You should check out Cronenberg's filmography, which is Anti Viral

1714
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:34.600
Possessor and Infinity Pool Possessor one of the best sci

1715
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:37.359
fi movies I've seen in the last decade. But Super Super,

1716
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:41.840
Super Bleak and Anti Viral just kind of gives you

1717
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.239
that question of what would what would you do if

1718
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.640
you had all the power to basically stay beautiful and

1719
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.079
young forever? And it kind of kind of that substance

1720
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:53.399
realm as well, but like it goes into a place

1721
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:57.239
of celebrity infamy that really goes into like a deep pit.

1722
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.039
So it's not like what would you do? Because John Keijonis.

1723
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.640
Comes up out Hi Jackieyota's for what would You Do?

1724
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.119
On NBC on television anyway.

1725
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.720
Yeah, Anti Viral Possessor at Finney Pool, Cronenberg Brandon Cronenberg's

1726
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:18.239
filmography is not for everyone, but man's those movies are

1727
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:19.119
absolutely worth.

1728
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.439
Yeah. I would like to check out more. Because I

1729
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:23.800
saw Infinity Pool in the theater. I really enjoyed it,

1730
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.920
And at first I didn't like I mean, as I

1731
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:27.359
was watching it, it took a while for it to

1732
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:28.680
click with me, and then all of a sudden like, oh,

1733
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.720
I really like what they're saying, well how they're saying.

1734
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.079
And it was at that height of me a goth

1735
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:35.239
with Pearl and everything, so they there was there was

1736
01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:37.680
that more of of her being shown in the trailers,

1737
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:39.560
and she's really not in the movie. I mean she's in,

1738
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:41.159
She's in a decent amount, but not as much.

1739
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:43.720
She's scary as shit in the movie. She's just doing

1740
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:47.920
her screaming psycho routine, which does well, she does very well.

1741
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:50.800
But I mean she's got so much work. Yeah, excuse me,

1742
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:52.439
so much more too. I mean, Pearl, I do think

1743
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.279
is a masterpiece. It is so I mean, just my two.

1744
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.159
I think X is a really fun slasher movie. I

1745
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:02.760
think Maxine is a really fun rowback slash Jallowey, you

1746
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.119
know eighties Noss. But I think Pearl is just a

1747
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.680
flat out masterpiece. I think that Pearl says so much

1748
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:11.840
about being creative, about being a woman, about living in

1749
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:13.960
a world where people expect a lot of you, yeah,

1750
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.079
and you expect a lot of yourself. And just that

1751
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.920
scene where Mia Goth talks for about a minute and

1752
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:21.439
a half, two minutes something like that. I mean, maybe

1753
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:24.239
even longer, but it's just on her. And I remember

1754
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:26.319
in the theater as it kept going, I was like,

1755
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:30.159
I am so engrossed, But the movie fan filmmaker in

1756
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.560
me is like, it's not cutting, We're just staying because

1757
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.039
she hit everything she was. It's just it was I

1758
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:40.880
get goosebumps thinking about it. So yeah, phenomenal film. But

1759
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:44.079
but yeah, I'm glad that we're diving into these. This

1760
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:46.600
is a fun change of pace. And I really hope

1761
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:51.399
anybody listening to this takes a second and checks out

1762
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:54.239
some of these episodes. Some of these feature films on

1763
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.000
Hulu or you know, Disney Plus with a Hulu add on,

1764
01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.159
you can find them all on there too, because it

1765
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.000
really they deserve a lot of love.

1766
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:03.119
Yeah, And I mean, and they are the longest one

1767
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:05.720
is ninety three minutes. Other than that, they're eighty one

1768
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.840
to ninety three minutes. Yeah, I mean you can't go

1769
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:09.720
wrong with that. Do we have any emails this week?

1770
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.399
Oh that's a great question. Hey, I mean I don't

1771
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:21.000
think so, let me double check because I'm a professional. Dammit, No,

1772
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:28.039
no emails, No, sorry, kids me. Well it happens. I mean,

1773
01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.159
maybe if you did your hair up, people would like

1774
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.640
you more than it might be. Who maybe next week

1775
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:36.840
will we'll be shocked and an awed by Dave's new hairdoo.

1776
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.119
There may be a change in facial hair for for

1777
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:39.920
that at least.

1778
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:42.439
Well that's at least a promise, I believe.

1779
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:44.159
So would you like to know what we're talking about

1780
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.520
next week as we continue marching into the dark.

1781
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:46.920
Hell?

1782
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:52.000
Yeah, we are going to go with twenty nineteen's April entry,

1783
01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:54.640
which is I'm just fucking with you.

1784
01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:57.640
This one's so weird. I'm so excited to revisit it

1785
01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.279
because it's so freaking out there.

1786
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:01.279
I'm not even I got to give you this anopsis.

1787
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:03.920
Just know that that's the title, the legit title that

1788
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:05.039
we are going with next week.

1789
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:09.960
If their April Fool's Day episode and it's wild and fun, yeah,

1790
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.880
and weird and dark and it just gets weirder and darker.

1791
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.159
Yes, it does so well.

1792
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.800
Gosh damn, I guess that's all we got for this week.

1793
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:21.760
So I do appreciate everybody joining us. Remember, if you

1794
01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:24.520
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1795
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.319
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1802
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1803
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1804
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.840
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1805
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.279
them join these weird conversations about esoteric bullshit, yes, and

1806
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.319
talking about Dave's hair for like twelve minutes straight. We

1807
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appreciate it. So anything else you can find to say

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1809
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That is correct. And also don't forget that we do

1810
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:09.279
take your recommendations, So if you have a movie that

1811
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:11.520
you want us to cover, or even again, if you

1812
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:13.079
are a fan of Into the Dark and you're just like,

1813
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:14.920
I can't believe you guys are covering this one right in.

1814
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:15.760
Let us know.

1815
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:18.960
If we get an email about somebody's favorite Into the

1816
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:21.239
Dark episode and it's not when we're covering, we'll do

1817
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:22.640
like twenty minutes about it. Yeah.

1818
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:23.920
I'm down with that because.

1819
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:25.760
I'm totally down to talk about I mean, if it

1820
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:27.920
was if it was reasonable, we talk about them all.

1821
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:30.319
But it just a reason so we'd have to do

1822
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:31.119
our own podcast.

1823
01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:33.800
Yeah. Yeah, we already did. We did our time with

1824
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:38.399
our every week for a year TV show podcast. So

1825
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:41.560
uh but I guess that's it, my friend says. All

1826
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:45.720
there's left to say is we will clone you next Tuesday.

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01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:46.960
Nice