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A Simple Plan (1998) The Ultimate Winter Crime Thriller by Sam Raimi

A Simple Plan (1998) The Ultimate Winter Crime Thriller by Sam Raimi
A Simple Plan (1998) The Ultimate Winter Crime Thriller by Sam Raimi
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A Simple Plan (1998) The Ultimate Winter Crime Thriller by Sam Raimi

Henrique Couto and David Denoyer unpack A Simple Plan (1998), Sam Raimi’s snowbound Minnesota crime thriller adapted by Scott B. Smith from his novel. Bill Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, Bridget Fonda and Brent Briscoe play ordinary people whose discovery of $4.4 million inside a crashed plane destroys every promise of an easier life. The hosts praise the film as a restrained departure from Raimi’s more flamboyant genre work and a morally corrosive companion to Fargo, No Country for Old Men and classic stories about cursed money.
Hank Mitchell, his brother Jacob and Jacob’s friend Lou find the plane while crossing a nature preserve near their small Wright County community. They agree that Hank will hide the cash until spring, but secrecy immediately produces suspicion. Hank and his pregnant wife Sarah keep redesigning their supposedly simple plan; Lou demands his share; a staged confession turns into murder; and an apparent FBI agent leads Hank, Jacob and Sheriff Carl back toward the wreck. Every solution creates a deadlier problem.
The episode focuses on Paxton’s controlled unraveling, Fonda’s increasingly ruthless pragmatism and Thornton’s Oscar-nominated performance as a lonely brother whose farm dream carries the story’s deepest sadness. Henrique and David reject the easier interpretation that Hank simply becomes a monster. His final confrontation with Jacob instead combines love, guilt, coercion and mercy, leaving Hank alive but unable to enjoy either the money or the modest happiness described in his opening narration. Sarah’s protest as the traceable bills burn makes the cost brutally clear.
Production history covers the project’s long path through directors and stars before Raimi took over, a 55-day winter shoot across Wisconsin and Minnesota and weather problems that required shaved-ice snow. Raimi consulted friends Joel and Ethan Coen about filming in severe conditions, while the production carried separate lens sets to manage temperature changes. The hosts also note Smith’s Academy Award nomination for adapted screenplay, Thornton’s supporting-actor nomination and the film’s critical praise despite disappointing theatrical returns.
Both hosts call A Simple Plan a phenomenal, underseen rent that belongs in the conversation about 1990s crime cinema. David’s dangerous snow-on-the-car confession, their recorded response to Babygirl and the story of a friend allegedly taking drug money remain as personal sidebars. Recommendations include No Country for Old Men, Red Rock West and Of Mice and Men, reflecting the episode’s themes of greed, secrecy, brotherhood and irreversible choices.
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0:00 Look at that. It's like we found lost treasure. We're like Robin Hood. You can't want to keep it. Sometimes good people do evil things. Part of that is my money. What there's two summits Now you're my brother. Bill Pakstone. You gotta make us look like it was an accident. Really, Bob Thorn do yeah. Rigid Thon don he's gonna shoot you someoney. In York Times best selling novel. A Simple Plan, I wish somebody else had found that money. In a world where podcasts reigned supreme. Two friends dare to ask. Do You Even? Movie?

0:45 Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert, Hello everyone, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I'm, of course your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and co host Double D David de Noyer. Greetings, and tonight we are we are really going four D with this whole super cold, snowy January that we are as good demonetized. All right, thank you for that. It's not like you care. I care?

1:34 Do you? Sometimes? But here in Ohio, and in southern Ohio in particular, we got almost ten inches of snow yes, and it really helped make the wintry feel a little stronger. And I think you guys got at least like two to three, if not four, more inches than we did back in Troy, because like we, I think we still have about five or six on the ground right now. Yeah, well, I mean we got anywhere from seven to ten. Yeah, depends on how you measure. And you know, if you measure from the asshole to just pass the tip. Or speaking of asshole, would you like to know what I did on the way over here that I felt really terrible about and was fearful the whole drive on the way over. Oh my god, what what did you do? Tavin? I didn't properly clear the snow off my hood for the last couple of days.

2:17 So it was just throwing it in your face. It was like it came off the top of the car first off, like when I got onto seventy five. Oh so you mean you didn't clear off most of your car. Most of my car was cleared off the top of the roof, the roof, hood hood. The hook was you. Drive an suv, Yes, so that's most of the surface. I would say yes, But more so the two giant snow rock mounds on my hood. I was fearful the whole drive over here. Kill somebody, yeah, because but not enough to pull over and fix it. Well, by that point it was just like, well I'm making good time. At that point, was like if they die, they die. That's what I was driving on the way over here, and a little bit flew off and I was like, Okay, if I don't move my wind shield wipers, they'll they'll stay intact, which luckily they did, and when I got here, I knocked the shit out of them off my hood in your driveway. So we're good now. But yeah, on the way over here, I was fearful that. I was like, I'm going to kill someone. I'm going to cause an accident.

3:13 I'm really awful for doing this. Yeah that's pretty bad. Yeah no, I felt pretty bad about it. But luckily all was good now and nothing happened. Well I understand, though, I get it, like getting the snow off the top is hard. I mean, you're only over six feet tall. I had not driven my car since the first snow, which was Sunday. Sunday night. Yeah, Sunday night. So Monday I got up and drove my car to go get milk because I forgot to get milk, so I had to go to the gas station and get milk. So I dusted off my car for the most part, but I was like, I'm not going anywhere, so I'll just like, you know, just going down the street and everything. And then today I actually went to work because I worked from home Monday and Tuesday. And while I was out running errands today, I was just like, yeah, I should get that snow off my car. And then when I got off and started driving your place, I was like, yeah, I should have got that snow off my car.

4:03 I mean, for the record, my car has less snow on it and I haven't driven it since the snowstorm. Yeah, so you know, do with that what you will. David Denoyer is a public menace. Yeah, and on this case, we're not wrong on that. I I mean, that's really dangerous. No, it was very daous. I laugh on the show now. But on the way over here, like I was white knuckling my steering wheel just for the love of God. Just pulled over and pushed them off. At that point, I was just like, I'm in the car, it's warm, it's cold outside. I'll deal with it when I get there. Wow, comfort over safety. That's the David Denoyer way at this point. Yes, well we'll put that on your on your grave heart safety. Yeah. So well other than putting fellow motorists who did nothing wrong and we're just trying to get home to their families in danger.

4:50 Yeah, I mean I basically was Doyle from Dutch at that point. Oh god, I mean that's a bit of a stretch, but you're not far off. I mean you could have that could have flapped into a semi truck and caused a whole lot of trouble. Once I had a small piece fly off, I was just like, I should really not do this ever again. Yeah. That's when I was just basically praying I got here saying I know, I know, I'm a horrible person. I mean I just really should have pulled over it to shit. I mean I'm not saying like you needed to pull off onto the shoulder, yeah, but you could have taken the next immediate exit and got and just brushed it off. I mean, do you have a do you have a brush? So I had the brush. The actual scraper part broke when I was trying to get the ice off on Monday.

5:33 Well, that's you bought a cheap one. Huh. No, I've had that for like five or six years, so it's probably just time to replace it. Bought a cheap one, huh. By cheap one, it's lasted that long and ate cheap. I mean my scraper survived two trips to northern or three three trips to Northern Michigan and Ottawa in November mine and it's still going. My I bought mine that year we had that really bad ice storm that oh where we're with Elijah would would die. Yeah. Yeah, it was like four or five years ago. We had we had a nice storm in Troy. Yeah, that's that's the guess. My point is that I went to Ottawa ten years ago and it's still kicking. Is it plastic? It's metal? Yeah, Mine's of plastic. That that is my point.

6:13 Yeah, it wasn't cheap when I bought it because it was a stop off at this gas station and by the only one they had left. When I was coming back from Kentucky. I want to say, sure you didn't buy a shovel to just take your whole teefer. I mean I could have probably would have been better at that. I mean, I got like the forty five dollars Extendo metal one. See I like the Extendos. I think I need to get an Extendo. Well they're they're nice. Yeah, that's that's that was my my my point. My point also being that I have a new one on order, so it's going to get here I think tomorrow. See about that. I have been dealing with package delays because of the weather. So well. I mean what happened is the like the UPS truck was driving along and then some some ice from somebody's hood slapped them in the windshield. So they were they were.

6:59 Even sitting here talking about this. I keep thinking about do you remember that video that came out about two or three years ago of that news van that was driving and that huge sheet of ice came off that semi and went through their windshield. No, they didn't kill anybody, but like, stop the car didn't it's tracks sure, yeah that's how I that's when I got here. I was just like, I'm that person now not anymore though it's in your driveway and not on my car. Oh great, thanks, it's broken up in your driveway. I mean I already shoveled at once. That's my that's the maximum shoveling until there's more snow. Wow, I didn't think you were going to start the show by just like completely was that's the worst, man, Yeah, oh man. If you want to email us here at do You Even Movie?

7:41 You can send an email to Doueven movie pod at gmail dot com. Feel free to let David know you are disappointed in him, or if you happen to have any police friends, that this was an admission of guilt. I don't think that's how that works. That's a misdemeanor. They can't prove it all aside from the admission. It's good all them for sure. There's no proof. There's there's no video proof or anything like that. I mean, I have on my ring camera you brushing the ice off the hood of your car. I'm breaking your camera when I leave. That's not how that works. Well it is the movies, you're like, well, time for me to get that damn cloud will show you cloud. Speaking of movies, we actually went and saw one, Yes, we did, sound right. We ventured to the theater and saw Nicole Kidman in Baby Girl.

8:29 Yeah, The New A twenty four joint, which I didn't realize was directed by the same director as Bodies, Body's Bodies, which I really like. Body's Body's Bodies. Yeah, I think it's interesting that the hate that Bodies, Body's Bodies gets, I think is ironic. Yeah, because the whole point of Body's Body's Bodies is the annoyingness of these like Zoomer, you know, young millennial douchebags. Yeah, and then everybody's like, I just couldn't stand those characters. Well, zoomer, millennial douchebag. It's like that is literally the point of the movie. There's a great moment toward the end where where one girl looks the other goes, your family were upper middle class, and she's just like, no, we're not. She's like, your parents are college professors and she's like at state school.

9:17 That was so good. Bodies Bodies Bodies is really worth worth watching. Absolutely, It's probably one of the best twists in the last decade. I would say, I mean I, yeah, I did have a really solid twist ending and the hate it got only made me stronger. Yeah, it's funny is Jeff and I went to see Bodies, Body's Bodies, and the imitation the same night, and both of those movies got widely hated. Yeah, I think because I saw it with Keith. Bodies are Bodies? You ever see the invitation? I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, but but no, it's a good one. So anyway, we got Baby Girl. It was released at Christmas time, and and I need to remind you all it is not appropriate to refer to baby Girl as fifty shades of gray hair. That is rude and hateful. You love your joke, don't you never ever do that? It's inappropriate.

10:05 Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even movie. The IODOB synopsis says a high powered CEO puts her career in family on the line when she begins a torrid affair with her much younger intern. I mean that's kind of it. I would say, that's basically yeah. I mean, if you really narrow it down. Yeah, I would say, just straight up that the trailers make it look like something it's not. In my opinion, Yeah, yeah, how so I thought, I we have a we have a challenger situation where I guess I expected a little bit more sexual content.

10:54 I mean, it's pretty, it's got pretty charge. There's difference is Challengers has almost no sexual content. Yeah, like the trailer is nothing, but like all they're going to do and then they don't spoiler alert, baby Girl is full of sex. It'stful, but I guess I guess it. It never got as spicy as I thought it was going to. It still got spicy, but I guess it just never fully reached that point in my opinion. I mean, the entire movie is about sex. Yes, like it's not the sex is it's it's the main point of the story is the kind of sex that they're having, the situation itself, but it's also very much about power dynamics, which is an interesting element that I was surprised they they went for so a whole hog. Yeah, pardon the pun. So, I mean I liked it. I thought it was it was interesting. I thought the performances were really good. I thought that the ending worked for me, although I didn't love it same but I do think it worked and it made sense. Yeah, it was a it was an odd movie, a movie that I don't think you see happen very often. It has a point, there's a very serious point about what this is about. I mean, what what it means to have an affair, what it means to have an affair with a younger person who is answering to you when you have lots of power, Yeah, and things like that. So, I don't know. I thought that it was pretty much exactly what I was expecting. Me.

12:24 I didn't think it was gonna be, you know, seventy five minutes of like hotel room, like drawn out banging. Yeah, I was expecting that. I mean, there were whole montages of them just banging. On Father Figure the same way. Ever again, apparently, I mean, I'll never be able to hear again after the end credit song. I don't know why Boys and Girls, but for some reason, when Baby Girl ends and the credits kick up, they blast a song and the volume was louder than just about anything else in the entire film. I had to get up and leave because it was hurting my ears. It was almost like they just desperately wanted to get you out of the theater.

13:08 You want to hear the tagline, what this Christmas? Get exactly what you want? That's a perfect tagline, is it? Were you asleep during the mint? No? I was not, I. I got Yeah, it works. I mean that plays into like it does. The entire concept. Actually absolutely does more on hindsight. No, that's like the perfect tagline. It just seems simple to me, But now that actually makes complete sense on a reread. All I know is my first thought upon watching Baby Girl was that Nicole Kidman had called her agent and was like, if Demi Moore is gonna drop her, you know, get freaking fully nude, I need in like, get me out there, get me on screen.

13:50 But both both Kidman and Moore have never been shy. About nudy, No, not particularly, although she almost never shows any actual nudity in this movie. Oh yeah, yeah, kid then actually would they like really skirted around it until the last possible second. Yeah, No, you're right. So I don't know. I mean, I liked the movie. You seem to have something personal against I feel I enjoyed the movie. I just I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna have to watch it again, honest, honestly. By yourself in the tub. No, I don't think. I don't think that. I think I think I just need another reappraisal. I liked it. I gave it. I believe I gave it three and a half the Utterbox. Mmmm, same rating I gave No Sparatu. I'm sorry the film couldn't give you exactly what you want. I wouldn't say that. I mean it was quoting the tagline. Yeah, I know, I know. I mean I liked it more than those Sparatu if only because the pacing was really good. Yeah, it really kept my attention for two hours. No, it absolutely did, so I liked it. Yeah, I don't know.

14:44 I think it's absolutely we'reth the watch, and I would recommend you check it out, either in theaters or when it comes to streaming. But if you get a chance to set in theaters, it's definitely worth it. Yeah. Just cover your ears when the end credits. Yeah, my god, it was loud. It was so loud, man, I mean I would have remembered if the movie itself had had moments that loud. Yeah, they did not. And one thing I'll say to wrap up, Antonio Banderis gave a really good performance that normally not the role I would expect him. To be in. Really, I can't remember any recent where he was this week. I mean I would have called him mature, mature week whatever. That was. What was strange for me is I remember him as being the lead in something. I'm not used to seeing him as a supporting that's more.

15:29 More so what I was saying, Well, I mean he's he's what he's got. To be sixty sixty or seventy at this point. Yeah, I don't know about seventy, but nearing. So now I'm now you got me curious. I didn't think Antonio was that old, don't Antonio button Dadas born in nineteen sixty So yeah, he's sixty five, sixty five, man, so five years sixty four, sixty four sixty four. So jeez, David, what just hateful? Sometimes hateful? I was just. Saying that he's a lot of my favorite stars are getting old. I can't help it. That's true. That's true. So are you ready to talk about tonight's movie? Well, speaking of things that never get old, oh the death of innocent people, as portrayed in our film for tonight, the nineteen ninety eight nice Say Sam Raimi film, one of his often forgotten, absolutely non genre pictures. Yeah, A simple plan.

16:24 That is correct, A simple plan from nineteen ninety eight, two hours and one minute, rated R for violence, and you're not gonna believe it, but language again. Who's they did speak in it? IDB synopsis says two brothers and a friend, all blue collar workers, come across millions of dollars in lost cash and make a plan to keep their fine from the authorities. But it isn't long before complications and mistrusts weave their way into the plan. But it was a simple plan. It was a simple plan. Would you like to hear my synopsis? Sure? What? A small group of men discover over four million dollars in a crash plane while hunting. They will do anything to keep it and its discovery secret, even murder for it. WHOA, that's pretty good. I mean you want good tagline would be you know this New Year's get exactly what you want?

17:10 Speaking of taglines, yeah, sometimes good people do evil things. I like that one. I would have preferred it to just be bad things, because that's the saying. But evil's good. Four million dollars and plenty of change sounds clever. Sound's clever. They've worked hard all their lives, but they still can't afford the American dream Stealing it is even better? A little long but not bad, but but strong, but but a little on the long side. Like, how many lines does that got to be on the post? At least it's not like from the director of Evil Dead and blah blah. No, they were probably trying desperately to hide that fact, you know, they were like from the director of Army of Darkness flopped and Dark Man kind of flopped flop in theaters.

17:56 Yeah, for the record, Classic, oh God, Yeah, Simple Plans currently available on Pluto, also rentable through Prime and Fandango at Home. Also currently available on a beautiful four K or Blu Ray through Arrow, which we just screened. Actually, yeah, I jumped at getting the four K because I realized I had actually never bought a copy of this film. I'd only ever watched it on streaming. So it's a lot easier to make that call when I've never owned it at all, when it's not a rebuy or rebuy of a rebuy. Yeah, because at this point between reissues, you know, between DVD, Blu ray and four K and all the reissues possible. There are some movies they live that I've bought I don't even know how many times.

18:36 Halloween, the Crow, pulp fiction. I think Lost Boys are the ones that I have bought at least four or five times. Now I've boss, I've boss. I've bought Lost Boys three times because I just got the four K, but like and Halloween's notory, so many additions, but like they live as one of those perfect storms where it's like I got the cheap DVD but then I got it on blue and I was like, oh I got it on blue, but then there was a collector's blue. And that's where they get you, is where there's like the ten dollars studio cheapy Blue, and then all of a sudden, Chow Factories, Like but we put all the extras together and it's thirty dollars and you're like, okay, I want it. Then yeah, and with the fork, I mean the four K. I just I need a four K if they live, I need four K. Roddy Piper, did you see what was announced on four K today? No, Welcome to con Air You mean conn Air conna Air is coming to four K? Okay?

19:26 Oh oh sorry, you said it like it was a title. I was like, what is happening? Maybe next time we'll do take two about it? It's time to board cone? Or how about this? Put the bear or the bunny? Put the bunny? In the box. But now we'll be able to see him get a good whiff of the air. In four K we see the strings pulling his hair back with that wind. No, I I might grab that one. I have a Blu ray already. If so, I'm betting. Man, it's Disney, So that would have to come out through Who would that come out through at that point? Con Air? Yeah, I thought you said it was just announced. It was announced, but they haven an announce who's coming through? Oh? Yeah it was Dawn at the disc Oh. I I mean does Disney? How many discs does Disney even put out?

20:13 I don't even know anymore. I mean they've they've cut back on a lot of their physical media, as everybody has, well, yeah, but especially Disney, especially Disney. Yeah, you got me there. I thought for sure there'd be a Touchstone company. I I don't remember off the top of my head because it's Bruckheimer and shit Simpson. Bruckheimer and Simpson is the logo at the beginning. Oh J. Simpson had a production company? Oh not O J. Simpson. Darn. Yeah it was a touchdowne Yeah, it was a touchdown release. Yeah, maybe they're putting out a four K it seems awfully niche. Because I was thinking Keino at first, but I was like, I don't think Keino would touch that property. I don't know if they could. Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know. I'm not finding any info. I mean it's available to stream on Hulu and Disney Plus.

20:56 Apparently yesterday it hit iTunes in four K with Dolby. Apparently there was a rumor that that conn Air was getting an ultra HD remaster with Dolby atmost and everything about a year ago. So I know I'm gonna buy that when it comes out. Oh, conn Air four K, it's it's the hair dry hair Dry. Nice. That's funny. Well, great, We've we've built up like crazy a Blu ray we don't even know exists four four K Blu Ray. Well there's still Blu rays. Yeah, you're blue. So anyway, you damn right, I am. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even?

21:41 Movie? So our director on a simple plan, as Sam Raimi, he gets to start in nineteen eighty one as far as features go, with writing and directing. The Evil Dead goes on to write and direct Crime Wave in eighty five. Evil Did two in eighty seven, which he's the writer on Dark Man in nineteen ninety which he's the Right Army of Darkness in ninety two, which he's a writer on Quicken the Dead. In ninety five, he just directs Simple Plan in ninety eight, he just directs For the Love of the Game in ninety nine, The Gift, spider Man, Spider Man two, Spider Man three, which he is a writer on Dragged Me to Helen O nine Oz, The Great and Powerful Rake Ash Versus Evil Dead, Fifty States of Fright, Doctor Strains in the Multiverse in twenty twenty two. He was also the writer on Hudsucker Proxy in ninety four and creator of Zeno Warrior Princess in ninety five.

22:25 Well, and I mean they were making a lot of TV properties in New Zealand nineties, starting with Xena and then Hercule Leaves. There might have been a couple other ones that I'm forgetting. Yeah. Writer on the film is Scott B. Smith. He is a novelist who pens a Simple Plan in nineteenninety eight he also get the screenplay credit for the film as well. Then he pens the novel of the Ruins, which also does the screenplay four in two thousand and eight, Siberia in twenty eighteen, The Burnt Orange Heresy, and The Peripheral in twenty twenty two. Our cinematographer on the film is Al R. Cavillo. He gets a start in nineteen eighty two with nine to eighty four Prisoner of the Future. He shoots Copper Mountain in eighty three, Do in eighty eight, Heads in ninety four, Avalanche in ninety four, Friends It Last in ninety five, Gotdi in ninety six, Weapons of Mass Distraction in ninety seven, A Simple Plan in ninety eight, Deep in My Heart in ninety nine, shoots Frequency, followed by the Glass House. Hearts war Normal in.

23:16 Two thousand and three, The House. I would expect to hear that. Yeah, Aurora Borealis in two thousand and five, and welcome back to the show. Because he also shot the ice Harvest in two thousand and five. No shit, no shit, Yeah, So he shot the ice Harvest in two thousand and five, goes on to shoot the Lake House. We talked about this on the ice Harvest. That's that's funny because just because ice harvest, well though, because Billy Bob Thornton's in it. Yeah, and so that made me think of them both. Yeah, that's funny. Then he goes on to shoot The Lookout taking Chance Year one, The blind Side in two thousand and nine, Bad Teacher, followed by The Lucky One, The Choice Story of a Girl, Napoli Ever After, The Broken Hearts Gallery in twenty twenty, and most recently, Space Oddity in twenty twenty two, Space odd of the Future film I Would I Would Hope. Our cast includes Bill Packson, who plays Hank one hundred credits to his resume. Just some highlights.

24:03 We have Crazy Mama in seventy five, Stripes, Butcher Baker, nightmare Maker, Mortuary, Streets of Fire, Impulse in eighty four, The Terminator, Weird Science, Commando, Aliens, Near Dark, Brain Dead, Last of the Finest Navy Seals, Predator two, The Dark, Backward One, False Move, The Vagrant in ninety two, Trespass Boxing Helena, Indian Summer Tails from the Crypt, Tombstone, True Lies, Frank and Jesse Apollo thirteen, The Last Supper Twister, Traveler Titanic in ninety seven, Simple Plan in ninety eight, Mighty Joe Young in ninety eight, U five to seven to one, Vertical Limit, Friilty in two thousand and one, Spy Kids two Club, Dread Haven, Big Love in two thousand and six, Haywire, followed by Hatfields of McCoys in twenty twelve, The Colony, two Guns, Edge of Tomorrow in twenty fourteen, and Nightcrawler in twenty fourteen as well.

24:48 I have always been a huge Bill Paxston fan. Oh absolutely, I mean we just screened The four K over the weekend of True Lies, the new one that. Oh yeah, Thecktucklass so good in that movie. Uh. Bridget Fonda also in the cast, who plays Sarah in the film. She gets to start in nineteen sixty nine on Easy Rider, followed by Aria in eighty seven, You Can't Hurry Love, Shag Scandal in eighty nine, twenty one, Jump Street, Strapless, Frankenstein Unbound in nineteen ninety, which is like one of her biggest roles, Like after. Shag, yeah no, that yeah, that's yeah, that makes sense. Then she goes on to do The Godfather Part three in nineteen ninety, Iron Maize, Out of the Rain, Drop Dead Fred in ninety one, doc Hollywood Leather Jackets, Single White Female in ninety two singles Army of Darkness, Point of No Return, Little Buddha, It Could Happen to You, Carmilla Balto in ninety five, City Hall, Grace of My Heart, Touch Jackie Brown in ninety seven, Larry Sanders Show in ninety eight, The Breakup, Finding Graceland A Simple Plan in ninety eight, followed by Lake Placid, then followed by Monkey Bone in two thousand and one.

25:47 Ah, Monkey Bone finally a real feature. Film, followed by Kiss of the Dragon in two thousand and one, then in two thousand and two, The Chris Isaac Show. Yeah he had a show apparently, Wow, Yeah, snow Queen in two thousand and two as well. That is the last for resumes stopping in O two. Oh Yeah, yes she did. She just stopped stopped. Yeah. Wrapping us up is Billy Bob Thornton, who plays Jacob in the film. He gets to start in eighty nine on Going Overboard, Chopper Chicks and Zombie Town in eighty nine, goes on to do the Dark Backward, one False Move, knots Landing Blood in Blood Out in Decent Proposal, Tombstone in ninety three on Deadly Ground, dead Man Sling Blade in ninety six, Primary Colors in ninety eight, Armageddon ninety eight, Simple Plan in ninety eight, He was Busy in ninety eight, Yeah, for sure, The Man Who Wasn't There in two thousand and one, Bandits, Monsters, Ball Love, Actually, Bad Santa in two thousand and three, The Alamo, Friday Night Lights and O four, Bad News Bears Remaking, O five, The Ice Harvest and O five School for Scoundrels, Mister Woodcock, EAGLEYE Faster, The Baytown Outlaws, Parkland in twenty thirteen, The Judge Entourage, Our brandis Crisis, Bad Santa two, Bargo TV series in twenty fourteen, Goliath in twenty sixteen, The Gray Man in twenty twenty two, and most recently, you can find him on Landman on twenty twenty four on Prime right now.

26:57 Which I'm watching on Prime, Peacock right, Paramounts plus. Yeah, he's forgetting issues, this fucking guy. My apologies. So what was your first time watching A Simple Plan? It was on a list of Snow movies that I had hunted down. Might have been twenty fourteen or even earlier. It was, I don't remember if it was on Netflix or Prime or Hulu, but it was somewhere where I was like, oh man, and then I noticed it was a Ramie film. Yeah, so I got really curious because Raimi had a very interesting nineties where he did, you know, Dark Mandied, Army of Darkness, he did Tombstone, but he also did a lot of other kind of outside of the genre stuff. Yeah, so I watched it and I adored it. It was just exactly my kind of movie, small town crime, lots of snow, great character actors. You know.

27:48 Bill Paxton is a tour de force in it, Billy Bob Thornton's good in it. He's kind of at this point kind of pigeonholed in the kind of like really character character actor. Luckily that wouldn't last after it really seemed to really end at Bad Sanna. After that he got to kind of play himself and not some kind of caricature, because his character in a simple plan is well done. But he's he's got big front teeth and they're yellow, and he's got these big glasses and this hat and this kind of dorky hairdo. He's just he's just strange entirely. He's as the movie progresses, he's probably actually disturbed. He's not slow so much as just not well so. I but I think his performance is great in it. I think there's nobody's bad in this film.

28:39 But it's it's yeah, it's It's not a very complex film as far as it's execution, but the story is just NonStop twists and turns, and it plays on an expectation that you get from a lot of these movies, kind of like the Hitchcock thing with I forget the movie he did, the famous one where it was like people had money to split. Well, I mean because and there's cycle as well and stuff like. That, but but there was one where it was likely it might have been family plot. But it's very hitchcocky and with the whole what's gonna happen with the money? How many ways are we gonna split it? Yeah, solving problems which raise even more problems the brutality of it. But there's a lot it does where it kind of plays with your expectations. The film is like constantly trying to make you think that Bill Paxton is going to become a ghoulish villainy and he really doesn't. He doesn't, I mean he does. He does these terrible things. Yeah, but he never does them with a plum. He never does them, he never relishes them, and he never goes out to do them.

29:46 He always kind of has that same look when he has to kill somebody, like in Frailty. Yeah, And that's kind of my point, is like, it's not the first person he kills. He didn't punt him down and do it. No, he was in a situation where that scene where he decided to make a heinous choice was his only options. But it was as far as as far as he could tell. And the same thing with the second person he kills it. He was under the gun literally. Yeah. So I thought that that was a big differentiator, and I'll go into more of it as we dive into the actual film. But like, I felt like they were playing with our expectations a lot, and I'm guessing that's why people liked the novel was that it played with your expectations a lot about how these things would come about, how people would start to die, et cetera.

30:29 Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to do You Even? Movie? But what about you, Dave? So this is like circa two thousand and five, two thousand and six. To get very nerdy with you for a second. I would frequent my local bookstore Introy around about books and they had a movie tie in section, so it was all the novelizations and other novels that went along with films and whatnot. I would actually go through that section to find out about movies I didn't know about. Okay, and had a. Simple Plan was one of the ones I came across. And then they also had tapes at the store, and they had a tape of Simple Plan. But this was also a time where I was going a little slow on blind Bis because I was always kind of not judge a book by its cover or a movie by its cover, so I would try and see it before I bought it. So my local library had a copy of a Simple Plan, so I took it home, watched it, and did not expect it to be as dark and as unhappy ending as it was.

31:34 Oh when you saw Sam Rainy, you were like, this is the crime wave guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I remember just I watched the entire ending credits because I was just so stunned. I like the movie when it was done, and as I told you before we started, this is probably my first time. We're visiting it in two decades, and it has aged so beautifully and is such a fantastic film that I'm kind of sad that not more people talk about this one. It's not a lot of people talk about That's why I was so excited when that came out, because I was like, cool, maybe this will spread some awareness. That was good that Arrow picked it up, because it'll hopefully get appreciated a little bit more. Yeah, and it's a perfect movie, especially for now, I mean with the snow and everything. But it's just it is a crime thriller that is timeless in my in my opinion.

32:17 I mean yeah, I mean it's it's clearly in the. Night, but I mean like in the location everything. Yeah, I mean yeah, a cel phone age is great. A cell phone will probably ruined this movie pretty quickly, very quickly. So are you ready to get into it? Why the hell not? So we opened with a close up on a crow's face. As we cut to a winter landscape with the breeze blowing a nice wind through the trees. We see a nice farm where a fox is running up to a chicken coop, slowly stalking outside of the coop, and we also cut to Hank played by Bill Paxton, and he's basically talking about how his dad once told him that there were things to make a man happy, a good job, a good wife, and he comments that he was a happy man. We see him at his feed bags filling a feedback at his job, and we see that he works at the Dell and Feet and Grain and he walks out to the small town of Wright County as he asked his boss if it's okay for him to believe we are in Minnesota. At this point, we see him walking through the town. He's wishing several people a happy New Year. We see a mother taking her kids going sledding, and he even has this little cute scene where he's just.

33:15 Like, can I go and they're like, no, my heart. So that's when we also see him say hi to local sheriff Sheriff Carl, who was played by the great Chelsea Ross in this and eventually he makes his way home to his pregnant wife, Sarah played by Bridget Fonda. Yes, yeah, it's a nice way to kind of be introduced to the whole town. Yeah. Shortly, a truck honked his horn outside and we see that his brother Jacob is pulling up. He goes out front or or his wife looks out the window and says that a Lou is going with them, and we can see that Hank is less enthused about Lou tagging long, and Jacob's like, you know, well, he just needs a ride home. You know, We're just gonna go do this thing and then you know, we'll drop him off the way back. And we see that Hank is also carrying a set of point set as that they leave, they say they have to go visit a grave. Basically basic basically Yeah. They don't actually say it, by the way, we get that impression very quickly. As they are approaching a small cemetery by a church, Hank wikes off some snow from the tombstone and you see some flowers underneath it, commenting that somebody's been here, and that's when Jacob is like, well, yeah, it was me, Like you know, this isn't the only day that we can come out here and visit.

34:10 This, yeah, which is very telling yeah of differences between the two characters. So sometime later, the three are back on the road as the fox from earlier runs out in front of them, causing Jacob to crash his car into a tree. Jacob gets out and he's pissed up because his truck's now it's smashed in the front a little bit, and he grabs his rifle on his coat because he's going to go after the fox, but Hank tells him that they can't hunt here due to it being a nature reserve, but Lou tells him, I don't worry about it. They're collecting a debt. As they begin to walk, yeah, they leave Hank behind a little bit, but he slowly catches up with them, and that's when Jacob comments that they're walking into the forest, they see some crows in the trees, and he comments that they're always waiting on something to die so that they can eat it. Isn't that just strange. Jacob calls to his dog, Mary Beth, who was in the back of the truck. She went out going after the fox, and Lou breaks out a beer that the two begin to share. Hank is not interested, which draws Lou's attention. He starts Mexican in a little bit, even throwing a snowball into the forest, which knocks snow off a large mass, revealing a crashed airplane.

35:04 Yeah, a little Cessna style airplane. Yeah. The body of the plane is just buried under the snow next to a kind of a tree. Yeah. So Hank enters the plane, finding what appears to be a body in the front moving, but it's quickly revealed that its crows eating at its face. And even when he goes up to move into the plane, the plane gets disturbed, goes a bit forward, shaking it, and that's when the crow start lunging at him and pecking at him. Lou and Jacob open the door and Lou grabs a giant Duffel bag out of the plane, revealing a bag stuffed and I mean stuffed with one hundred dollars. Bills maggoty with money. Yeah. Lou immediately suspects that it's drug money, and he says that he that he thinks that it's real. Hank asks if they should get the cops over here to turn it in, but Lou questions what if they keep it.

35:45 Hank states that they can't do that, it would be stealing, and Jacob and Lou both want to take the bag and tell no one. And at this point Hank's questioning Lou if the term accomplice means anything to him, and Lou argues that it's dirty money. No one's going to know about it except them. Hank is still uneasy with this, but Lou find him, and he's got a pregnant wife at home and his feed job store is not gonna pull in too much. And how long does he think he can keep that up with a family on the way. And that's not a bad point, no, so Lou. Adds that he bets it when they find this plane. There's no mention to this money, adding why turn it in when they don't even know if someone's looking for it yet? Yeah, because four million dollars like whoop seed? Yeah, no one's gonna look for that. Yeah, it's like, you know, you drop it on your way into the you know, the kmart. Every time I watched this, which is now twice, the moment they open that bag, I'm just like, Nope. The moment that I see that amount of money, I'm I'm dead If I do anything with that money is my immediate thought. I've seen enough drug deals gone bad in movies.

36:37 But imagine all the snowscrapers you could buy with four million dollars. I could probably buy the rights of Slaughter High, and I could make that the only movie in existence. Probably here's one hundred dollars. I mean, I don't think it's that cheap, but you could buy like the permanent rights. You could just own it out right. I could be slaughter High. You in some ways are, thank God tho as you will. So that's when Lou art. That's when Lou adds that he bets when they find the plane, there's no mention of the money, adding why turn it in when they don't even know someone's looking for it. We see Hank ponder this for a bit and then he offers that he'll keep it till spring.

37:17 If no one mentions it, then they'll split it up and all leave town. Lou asks why this he get to keep the money, and Hank states that's the only way he'll do this, and if anyone comes looking, he will waste no time burning it all. Lou says that they should count it first, and they all agree as Marybeth joins them. In the woods. Later that night, we see them all back at the truck on the road and they're in the back of the truck, all counting the money. Confirming that it is four point four million dollars, equaling a million and a half apiece for their shares. I mean that's pretty sweet. Yeah. Suddenly, headlights start down the road as Hank offers to speak to whoever it is. Hank finds that a sheriff Carl, and he tells him that Jacob's dog ran off after a fox, but they were getting ready to go get him when the dog came back. Carl also questions Hank's head wound, and he says, oh, he hit a tree branch, nothing to worry about. Jacob wonders over mentioning or talking to Carl, and Carl's like, you know, well, I thought you were avoiding me, and he's like, what do you mean.

38:04 He's like, well, you're staying up there. And that's when Hank is like, well, did you tell him about the plane? Or when Jacob's like did you tell him about the plane? And Hank's like plane, and even Carl asked that, and that's when they kind of give it. You know that Jacob's speaking without any sense, because that's how he can be sometimes. Yeah, So the three get on their way as Hank berates Jacob for mentioning a plane, but Lu tells him not to worry. Hank and Jacob drop Lou off to his angry wife, Nancy, who is out front shoveling until they arrive, and then she starts hurling snowballs at their truck. Yeah, she's not happy, No, she's not. She is not happy that he is late, and Hank tells Lou not to mention it to Nancy, but Lude says she'll have to find out at some point, and Lou walks up to the house as they pulled away. So Hank returns home dragging the Duffel bag of money in Sarah greets him, asking what happened to his head, and he's got the money around the corner. At this point, he starts to She starts attend to his wound and questions hypothetically, if she was in the woods and found a bag of four million dollars, would she keep it.

38:57 Sarah states that she wouldn't keep it and it's stealing, but Hank claims that it's lost money, and she questions four million dollars being lost money, which is. A good point. H Yeah, yeah. Hank states that it's drug dealers, and Sarah states that she wouldn't take it. Meanwhile, Hank proceeds to dump the bag of money on their dining room table as Sarah begins to laugh, then transitions to wonder and uneasiness. So she's looking at it. It's the way they show the money, just pouring and piling and piling and piling. Very effective to show the way. It kind of changes the mood of the room. Yeah, They sit down at dinner as Hank tries to persuade her that they should keep it, adding no one would get caught and if someone comes searching for it that he will burn it at the first sign. Sarah questions Jacob and lou but Hank reaffirms that if they're holding it, they have the control of the situation. The two sit down and watch the New Year's eve ball drop as he withh each other a happy New Year. Later, in bed, Sarah tells Hank that she thinks that he should return and drop off at least five hundred thousand dollars so no one will know, and to go in the morning so that he can cover his tracks when a snowstorm hits.

39:56 I like how it's five hundred thousand dollars out of four some million. Yeah, like she's thinking that'll slow people down because then they'll be like, oh, well, nobody must have found this because there's five hundred thousand dollars here. Yeah, interesting logic, But I see where she's coming from. Do you think it would be safer to return two to three million? Like what would be the safe play? At this point? There's no serious play, No people are going to be looking for the money. I guess she's assuming that it's just authorities and that authorities won't know how much money should be there. But hypothetically, if I was driving over here and snow may or may not have flown off, my car went into somebody's windshield in their car crash, and I found a large sum of money in the back of their trunk while I dispatched their vehicle into the woods.

40:37 Mm hmm. Should I go back to that seeing the crime with the four million dollars that I may or may not have in my trunk right now? Hmm? I mean, you're definitely going to die because you killed somebody who was carrying four million dollars, and if by some strange twist of circumstance, they didn't get it through some horrible criminal means they're next of kin will kill you to get it because they're owed it. Do you even? Movie? Will be right back? Welcome back to do you even?

41:17 Movie? Can I share a true story that that did not happen to me, but happened to a friend that I was just reminded of this? This did not happen, right, No, No, of course it didn't. It didn't. This did not happen to you. It didn't, right. I was not alive when this happened, right I was. That's a good alibi. It was late eighties, early nineties. The details keep changing. There was there there's a friend of mine who told me a story once. I know it's bullshit already, that he. Was walking in one of the parks and that he had kicked over I believe it was a rock or something, and that there was an envelope underneath the rock that was stuffed with like two to five thousand dollars.

42:05 That would have to be a very big rock. M hm. How would they know? How would they kick it over so easily? I'm just telling you this is how the story was told to me, okay. And they then proceeded to take that money keep it and try to woo a love interest at the time by filling her car with like flowers and chocolates and one in like the trunk space to where she goes over, opens the trunk, shuts it, walks up to my friend and says, I hate people will fucking go in my car without permission. This person sounds like a real winner. I think they had somebody. They caused somebody's death for that money going missing, because that sounds like a drug drop. I mean it does, but the idea that it was under a rock makes no sense. That's how the story was told to be because in order for a rock to be big enough to cover an envelope, it would either have to be flat, in which case kicking it over would make no sense, or it would have to be very heavy.

42:55 I don't know if it was kicked over. I just knowed that the rock was where the hiding place where said money was. I'm just saying the idea of this being a coincidence is low. I mean, you know, finding a suitcase in a bathroom, or you know, throwing something away in a trash can and finding an envelope of money that would even make more sense. But then thinking you could woo a woman by just buying her a bunch of stuff and putting it in her car. That whole part of it is ridiculous. I would believe I would believe that story about as much as I believe that that person ever got laid after ever, I mean not even related that they ever ever did. That's how the story was told to me. That's what I'm sticking to.

43:36 I mean, hey, you know if that happened to you, what happened to you? I just just seem no, no, of course not sorry. If I find that much money in a hiding spot, I'm not taking it. I mean, that's not as a drop. That's not enough money for somebody to hunt you down and kill everyone you love. A million dollars is a million twenty grand if this is if this is like late. Eighties, early nineties, one thousand dollars inflation or like you know, two to three thousand dollars inflation at this point. Yeah, that's still going to be like five to six grand in value. That's still not enough to like hunt you down and kill you. I wouldn't recommend taking. It, but this Midwest drugglers are viciously if. This is supposedly in the era of the late eighties or early nineties. How are they ever going to figure it out? How are they ever going to figure out who took it? I mean, as long as they didn't see you take it, I don't know, or okay, if I had to really think about it. Yeah, what probably happened was your friend stole this money. The person they stole it from probably witnessed them stealing their drop and decided to follow him to get the money back eventually, maybe to kill him or to harm him some way.

44:46 And then saw your friends strike out so bad with this girl that they just turned their car on. And when that guy needs it more than I do, I'm just gonna go to lips and sell some more crank because woof, dude. I gotta ask I gotta ask this person more about the story now, because that's been at least a decade. Since I told me that they're probably drunk. No, this person doesn't drink anymore. No, this person is completely straight edge. Actually, oh, I mean, I mean you just I okay, I'm just telling you. I understand. So the next morning, Hank drives to Jacob's house, waking him up and he tells him, and he wants to put the pilot's body back as it was and he needs a lookout. So the two drive out and Hank puts a jack under the car, telling him if anybody drives by, it'll give the appearance that Jacob's changing a tire.

45:32 Jacob states no one will believe that since the tire isn't flat. Hank confirms this by dropping air out of the tire. Hank then returns to the plane, carefully dropping the money off. Meanwhile, farmer Dwight Stephanson rides up on a snowmobile starts chatting with Jacob, even asking about a fox that would have gone by, but Jacob says that he didn't see anything. Hank arrives in time to witness Jacob club Dwight with a tire iron because Dwight is heading right towards the woods where Hank is at, and that's when Hank runs up to him to check on Dwight. As Jacob argues he did what he had to do, Hank states he's dead and begins the panic, looking around to make sure no one is coming. Jacob begins to freak out, violently pressing on Dwight's body trying to do CPR, and Hank proposes that they need to make it look like an accident as the go to grab his body, but Jacob, worrying about the track, says they can't do that.

46:16 Hank then proposes they make it look like an accident by crashing the snowmobile aways down the road, and he tells Jacob to meet him at the bridge, gets on the snowmobile when suddenly Dwight comes to life, stating that Jacob hit him and to call the police. Yeah, so the guy's not dead, No, he was just wounded. Yeah, and he is so trusting and aware of this guy. He's like, your brother did that. We got to call the police. He's like, I don't even think you're gonna protect him. Yeah, because for some reason, your brother clocked me. He did insult him in a mild way because he didn't see a fox. He was like, you tell me, you've been here for twenty minutes and you haven't seen the damn fox. I forget exactly he said. It was a little insulting. Yeah, so maybe that's what he Maybe he thought that, you know that he pissed him off and he hit him. In a fit of rage. So he was like, well, we gotta call the cops because, like my point is, it seemed like he never got an attempted murder vibe. No, I don't think a life was in dangerous well, and even waking up on the snow machine, he probably thought that that he was taking his body to de mend to somewhere. Yeah, well to the police or to a hospital, to a doctor, yeah, who knows.

47:17 Yeah. So that is when Dwight repeats to call the police, but Hank looks around decides to smother Dwight, leaning down and covering his mouth and nose, suffocating him. Hank leans back in horror at what he's done, and we see the snowmobile shoot under the bridge, crashing onto the ice with Dwight's body underneath it. I love this shot because we go from Paxxton suffocating him to like a smash cut with a like silent montage of the snowobile going under the bridge crashing. And you see his leg break yeah when he lands to which really disturbed me. Yeah, I cannot overstate I hate being that guy. But in most rooms where I live in this country, I am the only person who's driven a snowmobile. They're fast. They're very fast. Like a slow one can get to sixty five, a fast one can do double that.

48:03 At least i've flown off one before. You flew off a snowmobile. What were you doing. Ramping it in farmland? Oh, my god, min less baby, that's so dangerous. This is like when I was thirteen. I hoped you were like this was like five weeks ago. No, this was when I was at my buddy's house. We had had a school was closed. We been off school for like two days. I went over specifically for us to ride the stomobiles. We decided that it would be cool to ramp over the ditches to see if we could. We could make it, and I made it, but my body decided to eject. Me on the landing, guessing you didn't have a seat belt. No, no, I did it. I don't think I ever wore seat belt when I did snowmobile. Actually, I wasn't used to wearing one when I did four wheelers, So like that's how I saw.

48:49 Four wheelers are different. I don't think most of those can go sixty seventy miles per hour now, and I might be able to get up I think there, but. They top between probably like forty to fifty. I would say that would be I guess, but no, A snowmobile will frigging go. I mean when I rented one, they told me when I went on this frozen lake, they were like, you can go fast, you want to, like nobody cares, just be careful, And I chickened out after eighty five. Yeah, I was just like, I that was I mean, it was we were going so fast. The helmet was barely stopping the wind anymore. It was it was nuts runner. He'll no other fun. When might I be on that? I don't know, just asking. Look, I drowned twice when I was a kid. All Right, I'm very picky about the water things I do.

49:30 Yeah, you want to go near any lakes? I know, Well that's no. No, I won't go to your ponds because I don't want a brain eating amba. So risk is so low but not zero. It's like okay, so okay. So worst case scenario, you go on a in a in a pond and you get a brain eating amba and die. Best case scenario, you swallow some water fish, have shit pissed and fucked in at the same time. The same time, the upside ain't great. I mean no, I've been swimming in ponds in lakes my entire life. I it shows what it shows. Yeah, yeah, no, it shows in a lot of ways. So shortly, Jacob pulls up, gets out of the car, tells Hank they're gonna tell the truth and not to make things messy. Hank tries to stop him, but Jacob grabs him, throwing onto the hood of the car and saying that it's his decision, not hit, or it's a Jacob's decision, not his. Hank tells him he didn't kill him, confessing he had to smother him, adding that this makes it his decision. They get back into the car, driving off.

50:27 As Hank returns home, telling Sarah about the events, she questions if he left blood or anything that can make them get caught. Hank states, it's gonna snow, it's gonna cover them up. There's nothing to worry about. When suddenly the TV breaks him with news coverage of the accident, confirming they do believe it to be an accident. Sarah states she wishes he didn't tell Jacob, and he still believed that he did it. Hank asked her if she would have done the same, and Sarah tries to comfort him as he cries. Mm, yeah, but you know that's how she's making real quick with the like get away with murder? Yeah, do you even move? He will be right back. Welcome back to do You Even movie.

51:14 Some days later, Hank is at work watching Dwight's body get loaded into a hearse out front while a customer argues about his bill. Jacob calls him, requesting to meet at their old family farmhouse on his lunch break, but then hangs up before Hank can confirm. Hank makes his way out to their farmhouse as Jacob surprises him with a snowball, then tells him that his plan is to fix up the farm, but Hank reminds him the plan is actually to split town. Jacob questions why can't he do this, and Hank reminds him all the work of farm takes, reminding him about their father having two mortgages and collapsing under the payments. When Jacob angrily tells him the reason was due to Hank's college tuition, Jacob screams that he was supposed to get the farm and this is where he wants to be as it's his home. Hank stares in silence before placing a hand on his shoulder and then walks off. Yeah, it's a great scene.

51:55 But it's a really really good scene. But it gives you even more of a peace into what their childhood was like. It's clear that Hank got a lot more than his brother did in a lot of ways. Yeah, and because he basically says, like I was supposed to get something, I should get the farm, basically suggesting that, like you got to go to college, I didn't. And his brother's been unemployed for a long time. Yeah, so it's it's it's telling. So Hank goes to see Sarah at work at their local library and she reveals an article that she found revealing that the four point four million dollars would do to a ransom for an heiress. Hank states this changes everything, but Sarah tells him this actually makes things better because they're unmarked bills. Yeah, because that would be true.

52:37 Later that night, Hank wakes up in bed. He re noises downstairs. He goes down and finds Lou at his front door. Lou tells him he's come to make a tiny withdraw and he wants his share of the money. Hank tells him he doesn't have the money here and he wouldn't give it to him even if he did. Lou argues that that's his money and he needs just one stack and he'll go away. Hank tells him that if he asks one more time, he will go inside and burn it, and he just Hank tells it, or that'll go out and burn it tomorrow morning, and Lou tells. Lou states that he's bluffing, adding how Jacob told him about what really happened to Dwight, asking again for another stack, even adding what a shame it would be if an anonymous tip were to make it to the police about Dwight's accident. Is this is where I'm starting to think this plan is not so simple.

53:17 Not so simple at all. No, so Hank reminds Lou that he's just as guilty as them, and if one goes down, they all do. Lou starts the level that he's broke and he owes people money and he needs help. That's when Hank tells Lou to wait there, going into a close closet and retrieving forty dollars from a stash, which doesn't make Lou happy even more as he tells him the money is a drives day away from here and he didn't want it near him in case they come under suspicion. Hank tells him that they will go get the money when the baby is born, and Lou says as soon as it's done, they will go. Sometime later, we hear a baby cry and we see Jacob going to visit Sarah and Hank at the hospital as she's had the baby, a little girl named Amanda. Hank questions why did Jacob betray his side and tell Lou about but Jacob questions why is there always sides? Hank wants to know is he with him or against him? Or is he with Lou and Jacob states he'd pick Hank since he's his brother. Jacob presents Hank with a gift for the baby, as Hank thanks him. Sarah opens the gift to reveal an old Teddy Bear, as Hank reveals that that's Jacob's old.

54:09 Buddy bear aw. A doctor brings Sarah her baby for her feeding, and Sarah tells Hank to buy a small tape recorder so he can record Luke confessing to Dwight's murder, adding they should get him drunk jokingly take turns confessing to the police and record Lou's confession. I mean, you know, the guy don't seem like a rocket scientist. Hank questions the validity of the tape and Sarah tells him it shouldn't matter as long as Lou believes that they have it. Hank goes to Jacob, pitching the plan to trick Lou, and Jacob is uneasy, adding that Lou would send them to jail, but Hank states he can't take that chance. Hank asked him what does he think that their dad would do in this case, and Jacob says he shouldn't bring up their dad. Hank offers to help him get Jacob the farm back, but only if he helps him with this, and Jacob decides to going to dial Lou. We see Sarah at home with the baby as Jacob and Hank come in. Jacob goes upstairs and tells Sarah he invited Jacob over for dinner. She questions if he'll do it, and Hank tells her about the plan to help with the farm. Sarah questions if that's wise, as she believes Jacob will screw up and get them caught. We see the three sit down to dinner, sharing stories of their father over a baby monitor. The baby starts to cry as Sarah goes up to check, leaving Hank and Jacob at the table. Jacob tells Hank that their father would probably do the same in their position and never would have killed himself. Hank questions what is he talking about, and Jacob confirms he believes their father killed himself as he knew the road he crashed on like the back of his hand. He believes the insurance money that they received was his plan all along, as Hank stares at him in silence.

55:32 Yeah, this is where you start to realize that there's a big rift. And it seems like Hank didn't receive a lot of the of the pain or or got over it let it go, or in some way because his brother really remembers all the dark stuff. Well, it makes me wonder if Hank was even around because of the whole college thing. He was probably at college when that happen. I mean, that could have been, but he also could have just not known as dad was in dire straight. That's entirely possible too. Sometime later, we find Lou, Hank, and Jacob at a local bar, knocking back some drinks, but as Lou apologizes for his behavior and suggests that bygones be bygones as he shakes Hank's hand before going to the bathroom. Lou goes to walk to the bathroom, but a patron lightly trips him, upsetting Lou as he berates the patron, causing the three of them to leave and drive back to Lou's house. The three get out as Lou stumbles towards the house. Inside, the very inebriated Lou tells a joke, waking up his wife, who comes down, threatening to kick him out if he wakes her up again.

56:28 Lu goes trying smooth things over as Hank tells Jacob to get it in gear so they can get out of here, but Jacob tells him it's not right, even asking what the fuck's wrong with you as Lou sits back down. Jacob even gives Hank's shit for how he drinks whiskey, even adding Hank is only a brother in name as they're nothing alike and Lou is more a brother to him than he is. Lou asked Jacob to do an impression of Hank walking across the field, which angers Hank. Lou eggs Jacob on as the two share a laugh at Hank's behalf, even adding that they never should have let Hank keep the money. Hank says they should call to Knight, and Jacob reminds him that he wanted to pick sides. Hank will probably crawl into Carl's office and confess in the morning. Jacob tells him they should take turns confessing as Lou goes first, acting like Hank while Jacob plays Carl. Hank hits the record button on the tape player, unbeknownst to Lou. As Lou confesses to the murder of Dwight, stating what Hank and Jacob actually did. Hank tells him that's enough, removing a tape recorder and playing the tape for Lou. Lou then questions why would he do that, adding no one will believe him. Jacob, witnessing this, puts his head down as Hank explains that Lou is likely to not be believed due to Lou's infamous behavior at the bar and his infamous behavior with his wife Nancy. Jacob tries to smooth things over, stating it's just an insurance policy, but Lou isn't buying it, even asking if Jacob knew about this plan. He confronts Jacob as he tells him Hank said that he'd help him buy the farm. Lou goes off as they go to leave, but Lou pulls out a shotgun on Hank, telling him to hand over the tape. Jacob grabs his gun from the truck, telling Lou to leave Hank Loan. Lou keeps his gun on Hank as he tells Jacob he needs the money and Hank doesn't.

57:54 Care about him. Lou then fires a warning shot as Nancy comes down the steps, begging him to drop the gun. Jake kept takes aim, telling Lou to put the gun down, but Lou goes to take a real shot at Jacob or take a real shot as Jacob fires, dropping Lou dead right in front of Nancy. Yeah, it's it's a pretty startling moment where you realize just how much things have escalated as she gets spattered with blood and screams. So Nancy tells or Nancy Nancy. Nancy goes to who his aid as she tells him to call nine one one. Nancy argues that Hank killed him for the money and starts and starts going at him to grab the gun, but Hank takes the gun offer. Nancy tells him drop the gun. Going to the kitchen, Hank turns on the light to see Nancy draw a pistol from the kitchen drawer, taking a shot at him and missing. Hank fires back, sitting Nancy against the kitchen, saying, dropping her body dead right in front of him. Jacob returns to the house and Hank fires multiple shots around the house, shattering lights and hitting the wall before dropping the gun. He goes to phone, calling nine one one and reports the shooting at loose place. He tells them that they're both dead, faking panic before hanging up. Hank quickly takes the shotgun, wiping his fingerprints and putting loos on it, dropping the gun by him. He finds Jacob in the basement, telling him they don't have much time and suggests a story.

59:05 Both fighting while they were drunk. When they tried to intervene, he got his gun shot Nancy. Jacob went to his rifle as Lou started firing on them. He took the shot, hitting Lou in self defense, saving Hank's life. He tells Jacob he needs to hear him say it, as Jacob starts to repeat the story in a whisper, and that's when we see a really cool shot. They're in the basement at this point. Yeah, yeah, And right as we start to hear Carl's voice, Paxton looks up in the corner and we're now in Carl's office. The next day. Yeah, it's a really cool transition. So we see Hank and Carl and his deputy going through the story. But there's a change. As Jacob stated he went out to his truck alone. Hank states he probably got mixed up in the situation, and we see Carl confirm before sending him home. At lou and Nancy's funeral, Jacob wanders between Sarah and Hank, looking uneasy. He's later seen at a bar, sitting alone, having some drinks and sitting in silence deep thought.

59:49 Oh it's crushing. Yeah, he's so unbelievably distraught. We see Hank washing the baby in the sink before handing her off to Sarah. As there's a knock at the door. He goes to the door to find of Carl and he tells him he hates like hell to have to do this, stating he found Jacob passed out in an armchair at Loo's house, Hank sees Carl has Low in his passe your seat. He passes him off to Hank, telling him to have a talk with him, and Hank takes him inside, putting him to bed, but Jacob lays still. Hank tells him he's got to be more careful, and Jacob questions if he ever feels evil, adding he does. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even?

1:00:33 Movie. The next morning, Hank drives Jacob out to lose place, back to his truck, and Jacob states maybe he can get a family now with all the money in all right, Hank tells him he doesn't need money for that, and Hank asks out the old fling, but Jacob confesses that she was dared to go on a date with him as a bet for a month, even confessing he's never kissed a girl before. He gets out, asking Hank if he's happy now, and Hank tells him, of course he will, They all will be now he's shared. There's a hope to buy the farm back and find someone to share it with, and Hank and Sarah and the baby Amanda will come over and visit before getting out and walking to his truck. And this is a good example too, because now you're seeing that Hank is was not only aware of some of the darker sides of his father necessarily, but he's also not really aware of how kind of listless and hopeless his brother is. Yeah, he's pretty much completely unaware of it. And that's very telling. You know, he's got his own life, he's well adjusted, or was well adjusted. Yeah, and his brother has been living a life of quiet desperation for a very very long time. The whole sequence where he's talking about meeting a woman and having some kids and them sitting on the porch like him, like their dad and their uncle used to and telling stories and drinking beer. To me, it was very reminiscent of Lenny from of Mice and Men talking about, you know, being told all about this farm he'd get to live on where he could play with rabbits all day, and

1:02:03 that's pretty heartbreaking. Yeah, it absolutely is. So we find Hank in a barber's chair getting a cut, and Karl walks in. Come on, Hank getting a bit thin at the top, Carl request Hank find Jacob and bring him over tomorrow as an FBI agent is stopping through looking for a lost plane, and to be there at three pm. Hank tries to plot leaving the country as he returns home with Sarah, worried the plan is falling apart, but Sarah argues he has to remember how people view him and no one would believe the things he's done or even suspect him. The next day, Jacob and Hank sit in Carl's office as he an FBI agent Neil Baxter, listened to the story. Carl excuses them to leave as agent Baxter requests that Jacob and Hank take him out to the nature preserve tomorrow morning to find the plane. Yes, and now that we know someone is looking, well, I mean we knew people were looking, but now that we know the authorities are here, Yeah, and they're looking for it. It's turning the heat up quite a lot.

1:02:55 And it's also causing Hank and his brother to be around the police a lot, Yeah, a lot. All of a sudden, they're talking to cops a hell of a lot. But the sheriff is has been pretty consistent that he knows these guys, so he's not really that worried that they're up to something really nefarious. He's more worried that they're getting into trouble they have no reason to be in, and that they're gonna get hurt and things like that. It's very, very like just small town kindness from the sheriff. And we should point out this point too, that the FBI agent is played by Gary Cole, who is looking completely clean, like there's nothing wrong with him or corrupt, So we should be fine from this point on.

1:03:35 Oh, without a doubt. He's just got one of those faces. It's one of those faces. So that is when Hank returns home telling Sarah what they want, but Sarah thinks something is fishy, asking Hank agent Baxter even showed him a badge. Hank questions it, and Sarah goes to find the article, asking if the suspect matches the look of Baxter, but Hank states he didn't have a beard and he wasn't so overweight. Sarah suspects it's him without the beard in wait, adding she believes he's going to take the three out there and kill them. Sarah offers to call and request agent Baxter at the station, but Hank says they won't have any time, as they're going out before the station's going to open tomorrow. Hank suggests it won't work, and Sarah argues that she's trying to save his life. Hank states he's going to take the money back, put it in the plane, and be done with it, but Sarah questions can he work at the feed story his entire life and risk their daughter never having the things that she deserves, Which is interesting because earlier in the movie, when he brought the money home, she's like, you know, well we have plenty, Like, you know, we don't have a need for money. We're doing fine.

1:04:28 The money corrupted her very very very much. Yeah. She also references having to continue to shelve books at the library for the rest of her life, not being able to go out to eat back. On welfare alone in his apartment with his dog. How long will that last? Yeah, she's basically laying in like our lives are shit and we need to turn them around, and like what a couple weeks ago. Yeah, she had the complete opposite opinion of their lives and their situation. So Hank yells for her to stop it. The next morning, Sarah calls out to the FBI for Baxter, and Hank sits in Carl's office as they wait for Jacob. Hank questions a Baxter showed him a badge, but Carl says he didn't see it, but he bets that if he asks, he'll probably show it to him. Hell, he'll even let hold his gun, and even later he'll let him take a ride in his cop car.

1:05:08 I do like how he's kind of tauting him about it, because he's really just fishing for is this guy a real FBI agent? Yeah, but he can't just say, like, are you sure this guy's who says he is, So he's got to kind of play this up. But I did love it. He's like, Hey, even let you hold his gun if you want, I could take you around the cop car and turn on the lights for you outside. Hank Cy's agent Baxter arrived. Meanwhile, Sarah calls into the station, confirming that Baxter is not a real FBI agent and he is in fact the criminal on the newspaper. She tells him to come home, but Hank tells her he can't do that, and she begs him in fear that he will get to that he's going to kill all three of them if this occurs, but Hank acts natural in front of Baxter and Carl as Baxter asked them to get a move on. They walk out, but Hank lies and says that he forgot his hat, going back into Carl's office, retrieving a key off the desk and unlocking a cabinet, grabbing a pistol from lock up. He finds the gun empty, though, and goes into Carl's desk to find bullets, which there are a random bullets spread about, so he only finds a few pockets them after one doesn't fit, and Carl drives it three out as Jacob never shows, but Baxter keeps an eye on Hank as they drive out the entire time.

1:06:06 Yeah, this is where the tension is palpable. Yeah. So they eventually arrive and begin walking, despite Hank stating he believes it's farther out. Jacob suddenly arrives and Carl requests that Jacob bring his rifle as they're going to fan out to find the plane. They're all going to go off in different directions, and if he finds it, he's going to fire his gun. Up in the air if Jacob finds it to fire his gun, same with Baxter, and then he gives Paxton a whistle. A whistle, and that's when Hank asked what made Jacob change his mind, and Jacob quickly says that he talked to Sarah before stating loudly he started feeling better. As Baxter looks over at the two, the four begin to trek out into the forest in different directions. We see Hank enter the area where the crows are heading towards the plane. He comes across it and looks around about to head back, finding loose beer can from before, which he puts into his pocket. Carl and Baxter keep their search going when suddenly a shot rings out as Carl finds the plane.

1:06:54 Trying to throw Baxter off, Hank starts blowing his whistle, calling to Karl, telling him that Baxter is not an FBI AJ and to pull his gun. As Baxter starts approaching Karl from the back, Carl tells Baxter, nothing's wrong, go ahead and showing your badge. I guess, and Baxter quickly shoots Carl in the back, holding the gun on Hank, knocking him to the ground. Asking where is the money. Hank tells him it's in the plane. As Baxter sends him into the plane to get it, Hank pulls the pistol from his pocket, along with a handful of bullets. As some fall to the ground, he luckily finds a single bullet, which he puts into the chamber as Baxter shoots several shots into the plane. Baxter takes the five hundred thousand, quickly, asking where is the rest, Looking up to find Hank pointing the pistol on him, Baxter questions is he cold blooded type, stating they're probably going to have a lot of explaining to you. When Hank replies, just me, before shooting Baxter dead into the snow.

1:07:41 A really epic moment. Yeah, Because he has the gun pointed on him, he's just like, what do you you know, really, you're not gonna do that, You're not like me, and then he's just that line where he says only me and shoots him. Yeah. Is an incredible moment, and it definitely shows that, you know, he's committed to the bit. Yeah, because at this point there's only one person, as far as he's aware, in the world that he can't trust, who knows about this. Yeah, so, so Jacob joins him, going to Carl's side, but Hank tells him he's gonna mess it up and to leave it, before asking Jacob to go along with a story that Hank witness Baxter shoot Carl when he found the plane. Jacob says it will not work anymore, but Hank states it will it's perfect, and Hank begs him, telling him they got to get through the next couple hours and then they're home free, reminding him of his farm dream and that this is what it costs, right here, right now. Hank pleads with tears in his eyes, and Jacob states that he wishes someone else had found that money, but Hank is quick to say that they didn't. Hank tries to put a story together as Jacob retrieves Baxter's gun, handing it over to Hank and telling him to make it look like the bad guy did it, adding he's tired and he doesn't care. He's not afraid, he's just tired, and he doesn't want to think about this for the rest of his life. Hank begs him, but Jacob states he doesn't want to be here, adding if he loves him he'll do it. He'll give him a chance, but if he doesn't do it, he's going to do it.

1:08:56 Grabbing Carl's pistol and putting it to his head, Jacob tells him it's all right. As a sobbing, Hank takes aim, killing Jacob with a single shot. Hank begins to sob, dropping to the ground and dropping the gun, going to his knees and calling Jacob's name. We see the police get onto the scene as Hank stands solemn by the car as the FBI shows him a badge. Now, this is kind of my point, the misdirection here. I feel like they were really trying to set us up to think that it was inevitable Hank was going to kill his brothers brother. Yeah, on purpose, you know, maliciously, just for his own benefit and very of mice and men.

1:09:36 This movie makes me think of that story a lot, But that's not what happens at all. He actually, I think, learned to care about his brother a lot more and realized that his brother had a very sad life and needed him a lot more than he had been there for him. Yeah, and in that way, I think he was trying to protect the money almost to make up for everything with his but his brother, of course, you know, wasn't really sure he could live through what they'd already done. Then with this happening, he realized, you know, he just didn't want to live like this, He didn't want to live keeping these secrets and him having to shoot his own brother still gives us a little bit of that of Mice and Men kind of mentality, but it was really more of like a mercy killing and a suicide, although of Mice and Men is also a mercy killing, so that's kind of that was kind of my thought, is like, if I felt like they were just setting it up that eventually his brother was going to turn his back and he was gonna shoot him, and we were gonna reveal that Hank has become a stone cold killer and he's just gonna do anything for the money.

1:10:37 They didn't do that. It kind of went the other way, especially with what we find out next. So we see Hank now sitting at the station as an agent begins to go over the ways to detect a lie, asking if he noticed anything like this from Baxter, adding that he was an FBI but was one of the kidnappers. They show him a stack of money, even asking him to hold it, and they add they'll find the rest. It's only a matter of time. Do you even move? He will, We'll be right back. Welcome back to do you even movie? Hank questions a matter of time and the agent tells him a large amount of serial numbers were documented and once they reach circulation they'll find the rest of the money.

1:11:23 We next see Hank taking the money and throwing it into the fire as Sarah begs him not to, adding they can go someplace far like Australia, but Hank refuses, throwing all the bill's bill stacks onto the fire. We see Sarah back at her library job, at Hank back at the feed store, working their normal lives. The movie ends with Hank's voiceover stating that there are days that he manages not to think about anything at all, Not Jacob, not the murders. Days none of it happened at all, But those days are few and far between, as we see him visiting the old farmhouse as snow falls and the wind blows, and we fade the credits, and that is nineteen ninety Eight's a simple. Plan, yes, and a highly complicated plan. Yes, Yes, I would say. So, And that's really the poetry of the film is after all of that, he got absolutely nothing. All he did was lose. He lost so many things. He lost things he didn't even realize he had. He lost the sense of contentment. He lost his brother, who wasn't a bad guy, but he was odd, he was a little off.

1:12:21 There are a lot of reasons why they could have drifted apart. But he realized how much his brother needed him, and needed anybody. And now his brother's gone. His wife and he are never gonna work now. I mean she's gonna resent him till the day he dies. Yeah. It's quite an ending and quite a story. Yeah, No, it's fantastic movie. Would you like to know some fun things about the film? I hope there as fun as that ending. So the budget is what would you guess? Uh? Oh god, I want to guess relatively low. But there were big actors in it. Hi, oh, I thought you were just thought you were just like give me the thumbs up, like in Great Palat That'd be nice to hear it.

1:13:03 Low is what I'm saying. Oh god, twenty million, thirty million dollars estimated budget. That is insane. Why did that movie cost so much? Limited opening weekend was December thirteenth of ninety eight. It makes thirty nine thirty nine hundred thousand dollars or my god, three hundred ninety thousand dollars grossing in US and Canada sixteen million grossing worldwide sixteen point three. That's that is brutal. It was a fifty five day shoot, with principal photography beginning in northern Wisconsin on January fifth of nineteen eighty eight, concluding March thirteenth of ninety eight. Production designer Patresa von Brandenstein's found the weather difficult during filming, as conditions impacted necessary exterior work. Production returned to Minnesota, where it was originally supposed to begin, but found it lacked snow. To solve the problem, filmmakers assemble a special effects team to create a combination of real snow and synthetic made from shaved ice.

1:13:52 Well that's not synthetic, I mean that's what the tribust. Oh yeah, synthetic snow is fake snow. They were making actual snow ye out of out of shaved ice. The bar scenes were shot in Delano, Minnesota. The bar used in the scenes was an old bar that was changed into a private residence in combination with the apartment above. The only real bar in town did not meet filming needs, so the crew used private residence and fixed up the interior to meet the look that they were going for. I'm not surprised some bars are small, real small. Scott B. Smith originally conceived a story as a screenplay, but decided to turn it into a novel first before writing a screenplay based on that. There is a classic fable known as the Three Thieves and a Purse of Gold. In it, the men steal a pouch of money and decides to divide the gold amongst themselves. One of them goes to buy food and puts poison in it. Meanwhile, the other two decide to kill him. When he has killed, the two weary thieves sit down and eat the poison food unknowingly.

1:14:41 The similarities between this tale and a simple plan can be very hard to ignore. Oh, I mean, that's a story that's really really classic, a great story about greed. Between nineteen ninety four and ninety six, Ben Stiller was set to direct this film with Nicholas Cage to star. When Cage's salary began to affect the film's overall budget, Stiller walked away. The reins were then given over to John Dall, who later left the project to be replaced by director John Borman, who would have cast Natalie Portman as Sarah. Meanwhile, Emma Thompson was considered for the part of Sarah, but after a while declined. Finally, Sam Raimie replaced Borman and the production was set to go three years after the rights were sold to Mike Nichols, who reported two hundred and fifty thousand dollars against seventy five or seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Nicholas would have cast John Cusack as Hank.

1:15:23 Wow I man that that is I'm still fascinated by what made it cost so much money. Originally intended to be produced by Savoy Pictures, A simple plan was in pre production when Savoy went out of business and began to sell its upcoming projects to other motion picture studios, one being Paramount, which picked up the film for production and distribution. Huh Jeez, Brad Pitt and Juliet Lewis were attached to star, but left the film because of scheduling conflicts. Nicole Kidman and Anne Hash were considered for the role of Sarah. At one point, during a two thousand and two interview on National Public radio Fresh Air, Bill Pax had told interviewer Terry Gross that he didn't know that his own father had been cast in the movie small role of mister Smidt until he arrived at a production office at the start of filming and saw his father's headshot on the wall among other cast members. It turned out that John Paxton has had written a letter to director Sam Raimi saying he always admired your films and was wondering if there were any small parts that I could possibly write for, and Ramy gave him an audition nice. The plane was supplied by Wentworth Aircraft and Aircraft Junkyard in Minneapolis. Ramie learned some techniques about shooting in heavy snow from the Cohen Brothers.

1:16:26 From the Coen Brothers, friends of his who had been responsible for Fargo in ninety six, which Billy Bob Thornton appears in the TV spin off of. This movie, is very Fargo inspired. I mean, just as as far as like what they thought. I think what I think they were trying to fill in the marketplace was that that space that Fargo had kind of cut out. Crows in a bunch is called a Murder of Crows. Crows are seen in several scenes, suggesting that something malicious will happen. M I mean, I've heard that. In disguise as FBI agent Vernon Bukowski, Gary Cole uses a sig sour P two two six. This is surprisingly accurate, as the P two two six was standard issue firearm of the FBI at the time of the film's production. Yeah, they were standard issue through into the two thousands, and I think the glock replaced them in the military and the FBI at some point in the two thousands.

1:17:13 It could be wrong. The over film four million dollars found by the three is one hundred dollars bills, which feature Benjamin Franklin's portrait. Franklin famously said three can keep a secret if two are dead. Franklin thus give perhaps the best possible summary of this film. That's pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, I would give it that. Very similar to the story of Meis and Men, the two brothers resemble Karl and Lenny, one smart and the other one simple minded. They agree to use the money to acquire a farm after everything goes wrong, one had to sacrifice the other. Wow. Yeah. Chelsea Ross considers Raimy to be the top of his favorite directors, as he has great respect for the entire cast and crew. Found him to never be forceful and took great care of everyone on set, and. I've never heard a bad thing about working with Sam Raimi from anybody ever.

1:17:53 Ross's first then on set was the scene of three counting the money on the road. Ross accidentally slid off the road into a deep ditch of snow, causing the night to rap. Early in his truck. Yeah, not just his body WHOA. Becky Ann Baker, who plays Nancy in the film, originally auditioned for John Borman and got the role for the film, but with then the film went dead for several years. She was later contacted that the film was back on, unaware that Rami had replaced Borman as director. Baker commented that Raymie was a lot of fun to work with, stating he had a wonderful sense of humor on set, even during the tense scenes. Baker was the one to suggest Nancy be out front shoveling the snow when the three arrive at Loose House, even adding the improv of hurling snowballs up the truck. She really seemed to bring a lot to the character. Yeah.

1:18:34 Bill Paxson was noted as blaring Sweeney Todd's soundtrack from his trailer to get into the mindset for his character. A Simple Plan premiered at the nineteen ninety eight Torontald International Film Festival, where it was met with critical acclaim. The film's appearance at the festival preceeded a limited release in the United States on December eleventh of ninety eight, followed by a general release in North America on January twenty second of ninety nine. It underperformed at the North American box office, grossing sixteen point three million dollars, but was critically acclaimed, with reviewers praising very aspects of the film's production, including the storytelling, performances, and Rami's direction. A Simple Plan earned multiple awards and nominations, among them two Academy Award nominations, one for Best Supporting Actor of Billy Bob Thornton and one for Best Adapted Screenplay by Scott Smith.

1:19:14 I mean, I think they earned it. The score was. Produced and composed by Danny Elfman, who was drawn to the film after learning of Ramy's involvement. The film marks the third collaboration with the director. The instruments included alto and bass flutes, retuned pianos, banjos, zithers, and hand drums. In my opinion, it's the least Danny Elfmany Elfman score I've heard. Absolutely. I would never have guessed it was him off the top of my head. Usually has a very specific quirk to him. Yeah, but in this movie, I mean he played it. He played to the film's strengths and did a very good job. Do You Even Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even?

1:19:58 Movie. Alivarcaville moved from Canada to California and was happy to have escaped the cold winters, but only six months later was hired for a simple plan, one of the coldest shoots he'd ever been a part of. He had a great but short meeting with Ramy as Ramy said, well, you seem like a nice young man. You're hired, and then they went into three weeks of prep before shooting. That's not a lot of prep for a thirty million dollar movie. Two sets of lenses had to be carried for interior and exterior due to temperature changes causing the lenses to fog up. In the shootout and lose house. Flash bobs were used assimilate the shotgun blast, and finally, the ending of the novel is much different from the actual film ending.

1:20:39 The novel also takes place in northern Ohio. Yes, that is true as well. The novel ends as Hank goes home burns the money over Sarah's protests, and the epilogue Sarah has a baby boy who they named Jacob. A few weeks after the birth, their daughter nearly drowns in a waiting pool and suffers permanent brain damage. Hank and Sarah accept this as punishment for their crimes. Hank narrates that he pictures his brother Jacob from time to time because only this memory makes him feel human. Before that, though, oh good. When both the town sheriff and the remaining kidnappers are killed in the search for the plane, Sarah believes that they are finally home free, but Hank, called in for questioning, learns that the serial number of every tenth bill had been recorded, and there is no way to tell the mark bills from those that are not marked. If money is spent, it can be traced. Sarah tells Hank that she already had spent one of the bills at a convenience store, and he goes there to steal it back. In a fight with the cashier, Hank kills the man with the machete. When an elderly woman demands to be let into the store, he kills her as well.

1:21:32 He's with the bill and is never suspected. My god, Yeah, that's the novel for you, baby. Well. I had heard in reviews that they softened the ending for the film. I would say so and I would have to agree. So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety Eight's a simple plan. It's a solid rent. It I wish I wish it had become a modern classic. It didn't really get the chance to. Yeah, maybe it will in ten or twenty years. It's a phenomenal movie. It's very of its time in a lot of ways. It's very kind of post Coen Brothers, post Fargo. Phenomenal performances. Rami directs the hell out of it without being obnoxious, and that's positive thing. For most of what Ramy does, his directing is kind of obnoxious.

1:22:14 It's kind of in your face, like a three stooge is short, but he didn't do that in this. He took the material so seriously, just like they mentioned Danny Elfman did. So. I think it's a great film, but I think it's it's a solid rent it. It's worth three ninety nine to watch for sure, and if you are a huge old movie nerd, you'll probably want to own it. Yeah. Absolutely, it's a rent it for me as well. I think it's a great film. The two hour runtime doesn't even it does not even feel like it. It flies by it. It flies by pretty damn fast. It's a great thriller with a lot of great performances, and overall it is one. Like I said at the beginning, it's I wish more people would find it. Yeah, I hope that more people watch it now, I really do, absolutely so. Do we have any emails before we get out of it? You know? So we do, but these are gonna be a little weird.

1:22:57 I got a message on Facebook from our buddy wolf Dan and he was like, did you guys get a chance to read my emails yet? And I had no emails in our box. Yeah, I found them in the spam folder. But that's weird because we've received emails from him before from that same one, so I pulled them up, so they're from the middle of December. This first one, the subject line is drunk David's story God. At first, he says, I was not prepared for that. I woke up at a quote friend's house after an interesting night soaked in what I thought was sweat. Apparently, even though I pissed right before laying down, my bladder unleashed it some time during the night, and as bad as it should have smelled, I didn't smell anything, so I honestly thought I just sweated really bad. I got up and left.

1:23:47 I learned later that day what happened, and he was pissed. Literally. If you guys want the whole story, I could share. I just didn't want to take up too much of the show, even though this is at the end lol ps uk David and drunk Wolf Dan should hang out and give sober Edrique a good laugh. That look, I have been the sober one my entire life. It's unfortunately not as funny as it once was. Actually, it's funnier now to be friend. So this next one, sent in December as well. The subject line is Red One to David, I told you so, loll But y'all didn't even mention the best part, which if you were trying to avoid spoilers, I understand, but I thought this spooky character as appearance might just finish, might just finish selling the movie to me.

1:24:35 I'm glad you guys went to see it and loved it as much as I did. I enjoy getting to come back to the show every week, even when you guys may not feel like doing it, whether due to sickness or being overworked. You guys give such great recommendations and movie breakdowns. I look forward to what gifts you bring us all in twenty twenty five. Merry Christmas, or if you hate saying Christmas, like Dave, I guess Happy Holidays works too, lol. Only kidding, Dave, Love you, buddy, Yours furry wolf Dan. What he is referring to, dear listeners is Dan and I have an affinity for the Sleepy Hollow film with Johnny deppin just the Legend in general, and the Headless Horseman is featured in Red One. Very quickly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, y is. It's a cool scene. But it's really it's really funny. Yeah, is what it is. Yeah, it's extremely funny. Fun it's a great reveal. Is that a headless horseman? Yes? We we're interviewing the usual suspects first.

1:25:25 So but those our emails. If you want to email us, you could send us something at Dooevenmoviepod at gmail dot com, or you can go to dooevenmovie dot com for all that information. So we always like to end the show with a couple of recommendations. I have two again this week, the first one being from two thousand and seven No Country for Old Men, currently available on Criterion Channel and Paramount Plus. Luland Moss stumbles upon dead bodies, two million dollars and a horde of heroin in a Texas desert, but methodical killer Anton Sugar comes looking for it with local sheriff ed Tom Bell hot on his trail and Ton Sugar. Other recommendation from. Nineteen ninety three Red Rock West, starring Nicholas Cage, Dennis Hopper and JT. Walsh. Upon arriving to a small town, a drifter is mistaken for a hit man, but when the real hitman arrives, complications ensue. This one is going to be a little more difficult to track down, but there is a recent release of it on Blu Ray through Vincent through their Cinemagraph series. Other than that, it's been out of print for like the last decade.

1:26:20 Yes, I love that movie. It's a great movie. I was happy to show it to you. Reass very good film. What's your recommendation, sir, Well. I couldn't stop thinking about it, so I figured I'd just recommend of Mice and Men from nineteen ninety two with Gary Sonise and what's his name, John Malkovich. Yeah, phenomenal film. John Malkovich kills that character. He just does such a good job of playing Lenny, this oafish brute, when in reality, John Malkovich isn't even that big of a dude. No, the way it's directed is wonderful. The way it's shot is wonderful. For those who don't know, I guess I'll give you the IMDb synopsis, A nomadic farm worker looks after his dim witted, gentle giant friend during the Great Depression. It goes lot of places. It's pretty heavy. It was a great book. It's a great film, and I actually watched it in.

1:27:05 School I believe Keno Lorber put it on Blu Ray several years ago, so I think it actually does of an HD release. Well, I would hope. It's also available on MGM Plus with subscription or Pluto and two B for free. You can watch of Myson Men from nineteen eighty two. The whole movie just made me think of mice and men a lot. So that's my suggestion. Would you like to know what we are talking about next week? As we continue Cold Blooded January? I guess we are going into twenty nineteen's Liam Neeson vehicle starring Cold Pursuit. Vehicle Vehicle, Yes, Cold Pursuit, Old. Pursuit, which is actually a remake of a sweetish film from twenty fourteen called An Order of Disappearance. Cold Pursuit's currently on movie Sphere and In Order of Disappearances on Roku.

1:27:47 If you watch either, you'll be able to follow along with us. Fine, fair enough, and I think I have the four K, so we're set. Cold Pursuit's so much fun and I need to show you an Order of Disappearance. It's really good. I mean, we'll see Stalin Scar's guards. The name I those are all words I assume the guy that gets eaten at the beginning of Deep bluecy Oh, Telly, why didn't you speak an he. Gets corrected the Stellar skateboard on Google. Sometimes. I mean, that's that's a way cooler name. Not gonna lie. So well, that's what you have to expect next week, guys. But for now we're gonna get out of here. So we hope you all enjoyed revisiting a simple plan or visiting a simple plan with us. So again, if you want to email us, do you have a movie the pod at gmail dot com or do you the movie dot com? If you can leave us a comment.

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