This conversation cuts through the surface-level advice and gets to what actually drives momentum. Growth follows clarity, relevance, and the ability to create value people feel, not just consume. Brock and Pat bring a grounded, strategic lens that helps listeners stop chasing the algorithm and start building real signal. A sharp, practical listen.
Jan. 22, 2026 by Anum — The Platinum CEO on Apple Podcasts
The Smart Passive Income Online Business and Blogging Podcast