One of the BEST podcasts on this subject!

Pat is the real deal. He is without question the "Crash Test Dummy", helping the rest of us avoid the mistakes that would take down those with less education and experience. He also doesn't pull any punches or make things seem easier than they really are. As I said, he's the REAL DEAL. I've listened to every one of these podcasts and they all contain at least one gold, actionable nugget. LISTEN OFTEN!