Great interview with Michael Levin

Fascinating discussions on the architecture of intelligent minds. I am still trying to absorb the idea that the physical is an interface to a larger space that could be hosting all the intelligence and how connectivity of simpler agents could lead to intelligent behaviors. Levin also pointed out that the Cellular automata model is open loop, hence not adequate to explain emergence of intelligence. Perhaps an interview with Stephen Wolfram on how the universe being an computing process, how irreducibility could apply and how his view rooted in physics could compare and contrast Levin’s view from a higher level of cognitive sciences and biology ?