Evolution of Social Media Into Web3

WEBVTT 1 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:14.599 Now here's something we hope can really like. You're listening to creating daily, 2 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.159 there's something wrong with you. You know that because you and I are like 3 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.879 a mullets. It is the is the business. So he's the front part 4 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.879 of the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're 5 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:29.080 hilarious. Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What 6 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:34.240 is going on everyone? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. I'm your 7 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.520 host, Billy Thorpe. In today's can be a great show man. I 8 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.599 see a lot of people already jumping in checking out the show, so really 9 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:43.319 appreciate you. where, of you're watching that? Either Youtube, bullhorn, 10 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.520 facebook leaked in where? I don't know. I don't know wherever. Let 11 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.439 us do the chat where you're watching from so we have a better idea. 12 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.919 But he got a great show line up for you today. I'm joined here 13 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:57.039 in a moment by my friend Katie Brinkley, WHO's my Tuesday co host when 14 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:02.080 she's available, and she has been wildly busy in web three world, traveling 15 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.800 all of the country learn about stuff. So I'm excited to catch up with 16 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.479 her and just a second. But when to welcome you to the show. 17 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.000 If you have any questions, as we're going to be talking about the evolution 18 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.039 of social media in Web three and what that looks like to the best of 19 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:20.319 our knowledge, or really to the best of Katie's knowledge. I'm studying it, 20 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.919 but not a studied as her, so I'm excited to pick her brain 21 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.520 about that. So if you have any questions as we go through the show 22 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.800 we are set up to take questions from bullhorn, from guild or rich emotion, 23 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.800 from Youtube and facebook and all the places. So just leave them in 24 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:43.319 the chat, but put q colon question mark and then and let us know 25 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.840 where you're watching from or or what your question is. Rather, don't order. 26 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:47.919 Let us know where you're watching from in your question. Whatever feeling. 27 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.719 Put it together. We could figure it out. So also, while we're 28 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.240 doing all this nice front and stuff of the show, be sure to like, 29 00:03:55.360 --> 00:04:00.759 share, subscribe, follow, whatever it is and whatever platform you listening 30 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.960 to. Really appreciate all of you, guys and Gals, for checking out 31 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.599 the show. And now I think Katie jumped in. She has some time 32 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:13.560 to take a breath after she's jumped off a call right now to get on 33 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.560 the show. So, Katie, how's it going? How are you? 34 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.079 I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. 35 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.360 Thank you so much for jumping in. I know you've been crazy busy. 36 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.480 I've seen you on instagram. You're like in a plane, in a 37 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:33.040 car, on a train, you're all over the place. So you do 38 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.439 good. I might like. You looks a blurry compared to yours. I 39 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.879 have an HD camera. That's not that's not your fault, that's e Cam's 40 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.120 fault. If anybody out there in KM world, I hope they're looking. 41 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.480 I'll send it to him afterward. Maybe they can fix it. We'll see 42 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:53.639 what happens. I know right, my meat, I'll pixulated here. Don't 43 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.040 mind me. I just look like at unborn fetus on an ultrasound. It's 44 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.439 cool. That's what my cohost looks like all the time on my fishing show. 45 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.439 Welcome to the Party of VKM. But yeah, I've been on planes, 46 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.720 trains and automobiles this past week and next week I'm going to add boats 47 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.439 to that mix because we're going on a on a vacation next week too with 48 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.240 the family, and then I get on another plane and head to pod fast 49 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.480 to do some speaking. So yeah, it's been a super busy May. 50 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.920 I know, I'm excited for you. I'm a little jealous about the podfast 51 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.839 thing, which we get a we get a little discount. Co coming up 52 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.480 here in a few minutes that we can talk about. But I will be 53 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.680 on a plane in two weeks as well. Actually, I will be. 54 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:40.160 I will be on a plane right now, two weeks from now heading back 55 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:45.399 to North Carolina. So moving back there. Pretty excited about it. So 56 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.040 yeah, next time you next time that. I don't know if we're I 57 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.920 got to talk to you afterwards. I don't know if we're doing a show 58 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:54.120 next week or not, because I forgot. I underestimate all the crap it 59 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.040 takes to move to a different country, essentially, and I forgot from ten 60 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.279 months ago, and so now I'm like, oh my gosh, I forget 61 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.959 about this, this and that. So anyway, but anyway, it'll be 62 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:09.000 fun. It'll be good time. So yeah, you know, it's it's 63 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:14.040 awesome that you're able to work from anywhere because you know, right now you're 64 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.120 living the living the life and Puerto Rico and can be heading back to North 65 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.000 Carolina on and you know, like you said, you have to maybe take 66 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.040 a pause for a day, but you're going to be able to still pick 67 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.360 right back up and just be in a different place and keep on showing up 68 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.800 live. Yeah, it's can be good. I think we're going to take 69 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.839 I think it will take a week off. I think I'm going to take 70 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.959 a whole week just to get back and get settled and, you know, 71 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.199 because people are like, oh, just in front of your computer, in 72 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.759 front of your Webcam, like that's just not how I roll. I I 73 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.399 just not going to do that. So I'd rather show up and have everything 74 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.920 working. But Anyway, that'll be fun. That'll be a good time. 75 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.600 That'll be good time. So well, Katie, I get a I got 76 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.720 a new little segment that I want to do. Actually, we got several 77 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.600 segments lined up, but this first one is a little thing to get to 78 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:00.560 know us a little bit. I really get to know you a little bit. 79 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.360 Yeah, let me ask you one thing. So I'm going to ask 80 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:08.680 you three random questions that I've randomly selected to get to know Katie a little 81 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.720 bit. Maybe I'll answer them to if people want to know. But the 82 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.720 first question of is, what is the oddest job that you've ever taken to 83 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:24.399 earn a dollar. I'm so my very first experience in entrepreneurship as I started 84 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:30.720 my own rescreening business. So like the screens on your house, like for 85 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:36.639 your windows. I started my own business where I would rescreen screens because here 86 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.120 in Colorado we have a lot of hail storms. The screens take a beating 87 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.720 with that hot sun. So I was like I could just ree screening screens 88 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.199 and make the money and I was charging, you know, if I was 89 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:53.839 charging ten bucks a screen and window companies were charged in thirty bucks a screen. 90 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.600 But yeah, it was ten bucks a screen. It was my very 91 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.160 first experience in entrepreneurship. I did it when I was in high school and 92 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.560 in college just, you know, advertised in the neighborhood paper and it was 93 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.480 it was a fun little endeavor. If you rescreening business, he's screening. 94 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.240 Okay. I come from the screen printing world, so I was like, 95 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.759 Oh, you re screen screen for screen printing, but I guess nowhere near 96 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.839 the same. That's like super hard to do. Okay, yeah, I'll 97 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.279 try to think of my oddest job of ever taking. One time in college 98 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.959 I took a took a job selling meat out of a meat truck, like 99 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.240 you just drive around and cold knock on people's stores and see if they want 100 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.720 to buy a steak or whatever. That's anyway. People asking me like why, 101 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.519 why do you like sales? I like, I don't know, it's 102 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.480 weird. I can just knock on your door and Begat. You want a 103 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.399 piece of meat, you want some steak? What do you eating for dinner? 104 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.679 I got a steak out here. All right. So what is the 105 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:54.159 most annoying bill that you have to pay? What's the most annoying bill that 106 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:03.279 I have to pay, like for a household or for like business, just 107 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.559 whatever's annoying, whatever you like. Wow, why do I gotta pay this? 108 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:16.360 Um? Well, I sure don't like paying my my bill for my 109 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.960 scheduler, because I need to have it. But I mean it's giant normousts 110 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.039 because I do it for all my clients. So it's like forty five hundred 111 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.039 dollars a year, but I know I need to have it and that just 112 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.000 it's the most affordable option that I've found that does all the things that I 113 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.840 needed to do. Now, granted, I talk about schedulers a lot. 114 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:43.159 In the one that I use, I also recommend but for the average user 115 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:48.080 who's just getting started in scheduling, I think it comes out to like twenty 116 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.879 dollars a month, so substantially less. But again, since I do it 117 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:56.120 for so many people, it takes a big chunk out of my pocketbook. 118 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.720 Oh, yeah, that sounds yeah, I don't know about yeah, I 119 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.080 think the most annoying fee that I will I'll say fee, I want even 120 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.559 say bill, is like I hate transaction fees. I mean, I know 121 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.000 they don't think that cost is my I'm like, there's no way. It 122 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.720 costs them much like a transaction fees like really just gets me sideways every time. 123 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.159 I can say one. A fee that I don't like is doors with 124 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.000 their delivery fees, you know, and so I signed up for the door 125 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.600 membership, but it's still like, you know, I'm a like yeah, 126 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.480 they're good, they're making a fortune out of this, charging like three hundred 127 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.000 and sixty eight per delivery. I was going to add on a coffee from 128 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.559 somewhere else. was like do you want to add a coffee? Five seventy 129 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.320 more, and I was like sure, go ahead and ad on a coffee, 130 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.320 but then I was going to have to the driver for an additional stop 131 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.200 and add a delivery fe on, whereas before I didn't have to have a 132 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.720 delivery fee. So, anyways, that I was really annoyed about. So 133 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.320 that's that's transaction fee that I'm not a fan of. Yeah, Save John 134 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.559 John, and the chat said, I don't know what it's going to pop 135 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.960 up. Says the monthly bank feed, the maintain your account. Like yeah, 136 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.799 I'm gonna pay you to hold my money, like thanks a lot. 137 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.200 Like that, you use and make money off of like all right, cool, 138 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.000 yeah, right. So kind of annoying, kind of frustrating, but 139 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.919 is what it is. All Right, Kitty, I'll stop asking you questions. 140 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.159 We will get to our creator highlight real quick because I want to get 141 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.759 into this conversation and then and we'll talk about podfest and then we'll jump right 142 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:28.399 in. So they're highlights, no cooking necessary and no assembly required. He's 143 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.440 got to be fun, all right. So today we are highlighting diamond mind 144 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:39.759 results, as my friends Sam has an awesome podcast, awesome YouTube channel, 145 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.759 and diamond mind result is is really like personal and Professional Development Organization dedicated to 146 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:52.200 creating inspiring content for aspiring entrepreneurs and dream seekers their passions to build a community 147 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.240 of shift thinkers, which I love that. I love that shift thinkers and 148 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.799 diamond miners dedicated to digging into their goals despite bys life obstacles. Of Hand. 149 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.519 Opportunity to work with Sam in the past for some projects that he was 150 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.919 hiring me to consult on and it was a lot of fun. It's super 151 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.639 great guy, super great podcast. So if you haven't checked it out, 152 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.200 go check him out and also go check out out the out APP. I've 153 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.320 promoted this a lot, so use the codebt six, one hundred four, 154 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.679 five hundred and three four early access and a tender sign up bonus and get 155 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.600 paid for that advice. For All those people who go, I just want 156 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.759 to pick your brain. Katie. Are you over there yet? I can 157 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:35.919 see you like tearing up on owl. I'm not on OWL, man. 158 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.240 I'm on so many social audio platforms. There's only so many hours in the 159 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:46.159 day and I was really active on wisdom. Oh yeah, and I liked 160 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.679 I liked wisdom a lot and it just I'm not over on owl yet. 161 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.639 I've heard a lot of creators really like the platform, though. Yeah, 162 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.360 I think they like it because they can like say, Oh, I want 163 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.080 a dollar a minute or whatever, and they can set their own time and 164 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.039 show up when they want, all that kind of fun stuff. So all 165 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.159 right, one more thing. Is News to me, and where they put 166 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.639 it here I always lose any reason. That's news to me. Creating daily 167 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.279 all right, this isn't really like news, News, but podcast is coming 168 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.120 up, so we wanted to promote this event. Katie, you're going and 169 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.840 speaking at it. Yeah, I'm going to be hosting two panel sessions and 170 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.720 I'm going to also be teaching a track on how to use a social media 171 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:33.159 SC Eduler to make sure that you stay consistent with your podcast promotion. Man, 172 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.279 I just feel like we're talking all about schedulers so far for today's episode. 173 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.240 I know, like maybe this should be maybe we should reschedule this to 174 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.799 this topic for something else and talk about schedulers. So, Katie was generous 175 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.279 enough to give us a discount. Is that your Discount Code? I guess, 176 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.360 twenty percent off to sea. Yeah, so anyone wants to go to 177 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.519 podfast save twenty percent off of your ticket by entering in the discount code or 178 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:00.080 Promo code code of our MM and yeah, you can save some money on 179 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.519 it. But this is billy I just wish you were not moving, because 180 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.919 you need to be at this event. Man. Well, one because I'd 181 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.159 like to see you irl, but I feel like you could be like teaching 182 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:16.720 some master classes at it. So next year, man, don't move during 183 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.159 podcast. I was just about to ask a really old man question, like 184 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.759 what the Heck Does Irl me? But then I figured it out, like 185 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.000 in real life. Okay, so like, wait a minute, what are 186 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.679 you saying to me? That's too funny. So, yeah, the kids 187 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.799 are using these slang terms now. Irl means in real life. I'll showe 188 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.480 known brb. Be Right back. You can keep on going. Yeah, 189 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:45.960 right, that's what I was in the home account. My Gosh, I'm 190 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.600 getting old. What am I doing? I'm hoping to stay into this new 191 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:54.600 Internet world phase, you know, in a part of this, Katie, 192 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.720 for you know, for this conversation, for me today, is to learn 193 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.759 one, because there's so many people doing nfts and cryptocurrency and web three and 194 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.759 web this and we blah, blah, Blah Blah, and I'm like what 195 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.759 is all this stuff in? So maybe today we can figure it out and 196 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.000 we're going to kind of carve it into like the social media aspect I'm sure 197 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.720 it'll go a few different ways, but to kick off our conversation about this, 198 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.240 what exactly is web three, or what is web three as we know 199 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.639 it today? I should say, well, so this is the thing, 200 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:31.080 billy. I think that I was kind of along the line. So you 201 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.000 and I met on clubhouse and over about a year ago there started being a 202 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:41.240 whole lot more crypto rooms and nft rooms. I remember back in January, 203 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.279 when I joined the APP of January, two thousand and twenty one, it 204 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.279 wasn't hardly any, and then around this time they started to be more and 205 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.720 then by the fall I felt like every other room was a crypto room and 206 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.279 I was like, Oh my God, what's happening? Why is every this 207 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.200 being taken over by Crypto? This is so annoying. I don't care about 208 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:08.200 your monopoly money. But then good old Mark Zuckerberg had to go and change 209 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:14.440 the name of facebook to Meta, and when he did that I was like, 210 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:22.080 I'm have to learn about web three, because if one of the richest 211 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.080 men in the world that controls so much of how we interact with one another 212 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.519 on a daily basis is saying I'm changing the name, not only do I 213 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.799 believe in web three so much I'm going to go ahead and change the entire 214 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.960 company name, because that's how much I believe in it. It wasn't because 215 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.679 they're just getting a bad rap for crap they were doing. You don't think 216 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.879 that was it? I thought that's the reason why they change it because they're 217 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.679 like getting some heat for being whatever they're doing. I won't get into it, 218 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.480 but I thought it's a political move, not a not a I believe 219 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:55.759 in web three move. No, I mean I can think about it, 220 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:03.200 because there they have the Oculis Vr, you know, little d things head 221 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.319 where that you can wear. They have the facebook watch, which you know, 222 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:10.599 is kind of like an Alexa that you can watch and have talk to 223 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:15.680 people with and think about facebook groups. That's what they've really been putting a 224 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.880 lot of their energy and efforts behind, and really it was preparing all of 225 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:25.720 us for this new web three space. It was preparing us for this new 226 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:30.559 web three world, and that's that's what web three and NFT's are. I 227 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.960 mean, I was talking to with one of my girlfriends that saying like Gosh, 228 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.440 after good old Zoch made the name change, is like I had do 229 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:45.519 not want to learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrency and NFTS. I don't want to 230 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.240 learn about it at and I feel like it's a foreign language. You know 231 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.440 it. There's you know, like paying gas fees and you know, by 232 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.960 the dip, and I'm like, what is all this? You know, 233 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.480 it's it's all these different slangs. You know, Barb seems super were easy 234 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:06.039 and IRLS like super easy slang terms compared to what's being talked about with web 235 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.039 three. And I said to her, I was like, man, you 236 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.720 know, I just don't want to learn about this. And I was like, 237 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.160 I don't understand who's going to use I don't understand how it will be 238 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.880 used. And she said to me, she said what my daughter watches. 239 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:25.599 PUTS ON HER OCULUS TO WATCH NETFLIX. I was like, why on Earth 240 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:30.640 would you put on a heavy d glasses to watch TV when I all I 241 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.599 have to is just hit a remote watch TV right here. And she said, 242 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.559 well, so here's the things. She can put it on and her 243 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.680 friend who lives in Texas can put it on and they can watch the same 244 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:48.160 movie together and they can turn their head and see one another and they can 245 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.559 be they can choose where they're watching it. It could be up in the 246 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:55.839 mountains with its snowing, instead of sitting on the couch in Seattle, you 247 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.680 know, on a ninety degree day. You know, it's the front through 248 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:02.640 the humidity. If you know, they can be wherever they want to get 249 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.319 the other to watch this movie. And I was like okay, okay, 250 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.960 but I think I get it, you know, and so that's when I 251 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.440 was like, I'll just start learning about it. And it's really, like 252 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.079 I said before, I think that when some of the richest men that have 253 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:27.559 own technology companies are investing billions of dollars into this technology, you're naive to 254 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:32.680 not pay attention. HMM. And because it's going to be happening whether we 255 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.680 like it or not. You know it's going to be coming in. The 256 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.799 longer you put off learning about it, the further behind you're going to get. 257 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.440 Okay, guys, so is this? Do you think we're going to 258 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:48.920 turn into like that movie? Ready Player one, ready player one. Yeah, 259 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.799 we're going to be it did yeah, I do. We're going to 260 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.559 stack up mobile homes and storage. You know what, it's already happening. 261 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:02.440 millennials are already buying these little tiny home storage units. So maybe this little 262 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:06.759 Talcuo show. Okay, so I think about the pandemic ability, think about 263 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.519 why, why we met you and I would have never crossed path through ever, 264 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:18.720 but we were stuck at home, away from all of our outside friends 265 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:23.079 or family, and we were craving other human interaction, and so we were. 266 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:29.599 We opened ourselves up to make friends with strangers on the Internet and from 267 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.319 making friendships on the Internet, now all of a sudden, Oh, I'm 268 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.720 in this facebook, come join my discord, come join, you know, 269 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:42.440 my mighty networks community. And what we've been doing is creating these little micro 270 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:49.640 communities of people where we have similar things in common and we no longer have 271 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.079 borders. There's no more boarders for us, there's no more, you know, 272 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.400 state lines, there's no more, you know, hashtags that I just 273 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.039 wasn't serting, so I would never come across to you. We've found a 274 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.960 way to meet each other and that's that's what web three and and especially nft's 275 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.160 have done. You have the opportunity to meet people from anywhere based on a 276 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.559 common interest. So so I think those are all really good like use cases, 277 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.640 and I hundred percent agree. So, like we all met on clubhouse 278 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.799 and then took those relationships other places, doing a live stream together. Like 279 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.920 I'm working with two PU and said meadows on this show every week that I 280 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:30.519 both both of you. All I met on clubhouse. I've never met you 281 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.960 in real life and we become friends. And so I think that is some 282 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.039 of the benefits of, you know, web three and kind of moving into 283 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:42.720 this this digital world. But from my understanding it's the web, like people 284 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:48.000 are saying, like from Web two to web three, is this big decentralization 285 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.640 of people like Mark Zuckerberg, people like Bill Gates to say hey, we're 286 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.200 going to take control away from you guys, who are the rich white dudes 287 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.440 with a bunch of money telling us how we need to interact with each other. 288 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.759 So what is in it for Mark Zuckerberg? Do you think that the 289 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.480 see just trying to grab the Mataver? What's The metaver? Mataver? So 290 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:12.599 it just his own so his own world, I guess. Yes. So 291 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.079 do you remember Ari niceman? He was on clubhouse a bunch. I have 292 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:23.400 hosted a bunch of rooms with him, and those like clubhouse for beginner's rooms. 293 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:27.599 Well, he owns a music entertainment company and during the pandemic he built 294 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:33.240 I metaverse, and in this metaverse you have the opportunity to walk around a 295 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:40.119 virtual convention and go see virtual musicians have a concert and you have your own 296 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.839 little Avatar. You can walk around and you know, at the time I 297 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.160 remember him sending us because hey, yeah, check my belt, and I 298 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.279 was like that's kind of cool, but it was next level. That's what 299 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:56.000 that's what these guys in tech or creating is that I think about fortnight. 300 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.039 Think about road box. You know, what your people are doing is they're 301 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:06.640 taking their little game pieces and they can use their virtual money, their virtual 302 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.599 tokens, to buy a new outfit, to buy some shoes, to buy 303 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.880 a cool you know, like my daughter plays animal crossing cut. She's seven, 304 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.640 but I mean she was so excited when she got was able to buy 305 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.640 her first bed for in the house. So I mean like, but that's 306 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.359 what it's moving towards. Is, yeah, you can you know, I'm 307 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.119 sitting here in this office, but let's say in the metaverse I can have 308 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.559 enough social tokens that I can make it a really sweet office overlooking, you 309 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.960 know, the ocean with you know may maybe I can make it like the 310 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.680 hunger games and have like the giant mountains with, you know, ocean in 311 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:45.519 front of me and, you know, floor to ceiling windows, because I 312 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.799 have enough tokens. So I mean, like that's what it is. It's 313 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:55.720 about digital currency, in this digital world that you are going to be able 314 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.759 to live and do business in and hang out with people in and, you 315 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.839 know, go see music, music concerts in. I mean, who was 316 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.880 it? I'm blinking on his name. He did a concert in fortnight. 317 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.640 He's like a rapper. Who was that? There's a little Wayne, I 318 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.039 don't know, snoop dog or somebody. I'm sure somebody, I'm sure student, 319 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.759 did a virtual con or maybe it was Kendrick Lamar, I don't know, 320 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:25.559 but somebody did a concert in fortnight and everyone showed up and that I 321 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.119 sal Avatar didn't be doing that. I can't remember. I don't know. 322 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.480 That mean the world so in. This is the thing about it. It's 323 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.160 like the world is kids the days. Yes, like the world's moving so 324 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.680 fast, and I think it's. But you know what makes me nervous about 325 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:44.000 it is it is the it is clubhouse. You know, clubhouse started off. 326 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:45.160 It was banging, it was awesome, it was great. People were 327 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:52.319 going there in now in my community that I built there it's a ghost town. 328 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.119 I don't know about everybody else, but there's no podcasting rooms, there's 329 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.119 no live shimming rooms. I mean there is some, but not like you 330 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.440 know, at during the middle of the pandemic, it was like a ton 331 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.960 of podcasting stuff, a ton of them, and now the only people that 332 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.920 are jumping in it are people who built really big podcast audiences. You have 333 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.240 seen them for like eight months and they jump back in like Oh, I 334 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.480 get this nft project and I'm like, are you kidding me right now, 335 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.759 like this is just got to be a cash grab. And I think this 336 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.279 is what makes me so nervous about all these projects and coins and this token 337 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.279 and that token and this thing and that thing. It's like at some point 338 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.039 it's like, are you just trying to rake me over the coals or you 339 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.240 really want to build a community with me? And that's what makes me so 340 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.799 nervous. And I know there's good and bad and everything, so I can't 341 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:44.240 speak for everybody, but it does make me nervous a little bit now. 342 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:45.519 I hear you. I mean like, and that's the thing is, is 343 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.880 how you know what's a good community or a good project to buy into. 344 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.640 But this is the thing too. Is like when you get an NFT and 345 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.240 I we haven't really talked into like we've mostly been talking about metaverse and what 346 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.240 does this mean for true media? But I mean, let's say that you 347 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.200 buy into an NFT project. So there's a number that I've bought into and 348 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.839 there's a number that I'm super duper active in their discords and in their communities 349 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.079 and I joined their twitter spaces and I've talked to these guy other people in 350 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:19.640 the DM's kind of like how club house used to be, and we're all 351 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.000 based on a common interest. So one of them, I'm a part of 352 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.079 his called the Meta athletes, and Roger Clemens is in it and Ivon tave's 353 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.079 from the Colorado Avalanche. I mean that there's a lot of athletes that are 354 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:37.079 in this community, but then there's just a lot of fans like me and 355 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.839 people that love sports and we want to talk about exercising in mindset and we 356 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.200 want to talk about the game that we're watching, and so, I mean 357 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.160 that's where I've I've found my community, and the only reason, you know, 358 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.599 I can go on and on about how great it is, but then 359 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.880 like my buddy events, he's like I that would not do anything for me 360 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.599 because I want don't live in America, so I don't know anything about American 361 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.480 sport. But to I don't like sports and ways. So why would I 362 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.319 want to buy that? Enough, he so, I mean you have to 363 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.720 do your own research. Yeah, because when you buy into these communities, 364 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:14.119 you buy these end of tees, you're buying kind of buying friends. So 365 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.519 who do you want to be friends with? Who Do you align with? 366 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.400 That is one aspect of the energiesis is the social token. But I mean 367 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:27.920 and the community. But it's a different way of finding I don't like this 368 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.640 term. I need to find another way of saying it, but finding your 369 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.119 tribe, you know, finding your people, finding those that you are aligned 370 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.759 with. Okay, yeah, no, I agree with that. I mean 371 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.119 and I think it is cool. Like I think there's a lot of awesome 372 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.559 use cases for so will there be social media, will there be instagram, 373 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.880 will there be facebook, or will all this stuff just get absorbed into the 374 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.000 metaverse and it'll be like, oh, I want to look at this guy's 375 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.559 pictures, so I just go to his picture room or I just go and 376 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.839 walk into his living room and look around like a grandma's house when I was 377 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:04.400 nine. It's kind of interesting, but we want to keep saying part of 378 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.039 me is I'm like mad, don't know you. I think it'll get there 379 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:12.400 someday, but think this was what makes me feel really old is that like 380 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.960 eighteen years ago, none of this existed. Yeah, it's become such a 381 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.440 part of our lives in less than two decades that I mean like for craning 382 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.839 a lot. I remember the very, very first cell phone, like the 383 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.400 one the Zach Morris saved by the Bell, you know, giant brick. 384 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.640 That was our for cell phone. And now we're walking around with computers in 385 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.279 our back pockets. Yeah, you know, crazy we have. It's I 386 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.920 mean technology is moving very, very fast, and so for me to say 387 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.839 like Oh yeah, well, I think I could get there someday. You 388 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.559 know, maybe in my our kids a dime billy, but this could be 389 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.400 a five in five years. This is how we do it. And all 390 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.359 of a sudden we're like man, remember when we thought that the whole like 391 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:59.599 Avatar thing, the whole PfP profile picture changing thing was, you know, 392 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.599 like so outrageous. I mean we'll better it could be like that or we 393 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.400 could say, like remember how when we all thought that we're going to be 394 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.240 talking, you know, and crews around and flying cars on the back of 395 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.960 the future? I mean, who knows, but the way that technology and 396 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.359 the money that's been invested in it right now, I think it's going to 397 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.559 happen sooner, sooner than we expect. Yeah, and I guess if they 398 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.319 add, because that was one of my questions for is like because I see 399 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.720 people who are going to be, I feel like you and some other people 400 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.279 in my circle, or like let's go, let's go figured out, let's 401 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.680 like be first adopters, like let's really run after it. I'm probably somewhere 402 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.160 like in the middle, because I'm just like you know what I don't I 403 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.279 got stuff I'm trying to do as far as like businesswise, and I don't 404 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.759 really want to make the investment in all these different projects. I don't really 405 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.000 want to take the time to understand them, and I will, upon your 406 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.480 recommendation or a few other people out like maybe buy and a project or whatever, 407 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.359 but I'm not like studying this space at all. And then I have, 408 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.359 you know, people like you know that are not going to do it. 409 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.200 I mean they're just like I'm done, I'm not going to do that. 410 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.759 However, there's people probably said they're not going to get on facebook either. 411 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.119 Not everyone's on facebook, so I don't know. But what do you 412 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.839 what do you think as far as like, but this is the thing, 413 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:25.440 go ahead. I mean people that say like oh well, there's still are 414 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.799 people that aren't on facebook, because are. I mean there's still people that 415 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.839 are on any social media and true what there's there's so still some people that 416 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:41.119 are out there that that are fortunate enough to only have the circle of people 417 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.119 in their network be the people that they meet in real life, and I 418 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.400 that's probably I'm not saying that real life interaction are ever going to go away. 419 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:56.160 I mean I just went to to in real life or IRL events and 420 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.920 it was so great to see these people, but I have to say that 421 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.480 it was awesome to be like so like I met Brian Fanzo and hung out 422 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.000 with them and it was like hanging out with a friend because we had talked 423 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.640 to each other and discord. I'd been in his, you know, clubhouse 424 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.799 rooms, I've been in his twitter spaces. He knew who I was and 425 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.119 it was just like, Oh this is you in real life. High so 426 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.039 I don't think that in real life connections are going to be going away. 427 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.079 I just feel like this is going to be a whole new way to grow 428 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.319 your circle. Gotchas, so this must yeah, so I agree and I 429 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:33.720 think that it does lesson the trust, timing or whatever whatever with people, 430 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.319 you know, because I know there's people I'll do business with off a clubhouse 431 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.720 because I'm like, Oh, I feel like I know them, so I'll 432 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.079 do business with them or whatever. I've never met them in person, I 433 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.440 don't have a relationship outside of clubhouse with them, all that kind of stuff. 434 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.400 So do you see that there's going to be and I guess there will 435 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.279 be, like if we're creating virtual spaces and we're designing our virtual offices and 436 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.440 or virtual homes or hubs or whatever we call them, I guess there's that's 437 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.359 going to be the new can you know? I guess we're just talking a 438 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.119 lot about web three, but it's metaverse, but it's just talking about replacing 439 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.680 these social spaces. So I guess we will hang out in rooms with our 440 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.319 you know, our contacts in or our sunglasses or whatever as we sit in 441 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.400 our office. Is like yeah, I mean, I I don't know. 442 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.039 I'll to be one of those Clunky, you know, VR headsets. I 443 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.119 think that that's going to be going away. It'll probably be see something like 444 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.000 do you remember the Google Lens? I think that's what it was, called 445 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:38.119 laical lenses and they were they're like glasses. So the feeling will be like 446 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:43.720 that and we can then see people as they are or we can hit a 447 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:50.519 switch and see them as their little PfP picture. And I mean with instagram 448 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:55.240 making the announcement that they're going to be incorporating fts into instagram, you know, 449 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.759 one of the things that they're going to do is have these D avatars 450 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.839 of your PfP. So let's say I want to show up as my met 451 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.640 athlete and you know, first through stickers and stories, I can actually show 452 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.759 up as I talking Avatar, and that's that's what I think is going to 453 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:17.160 be like the first rollout, and it's it's gaming. Like, you know, 454 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.640 I grew up playing video games out and about, you billy, but 455 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.279 I mean I still play some hockey video games and played the SAMs. But 456 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.359 I feel like it's going to be that next level of like incorporating gaming into 457 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.279 group communities into transparent, you know, purchases, if that makes sense. 458 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.039 Yeah, I get to study the simpsons. You know, the simpsons are 459 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.039 always years ahead of us. I got to go. We canna go watch 460 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.720 some starts see what's happening. I don't think it's a really interesting world. 461 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.400 I think it's an interesting space. I'm not anti web anything. I'm not 462 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.079 inside web three. I mean, I I don't know that. If I 463 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.200 is, this was ten years ago, I'd be like a super quick adopter, 464 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.839 because that's who I was ten years ago. I think I'm more cautious 465 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.279 now than ever, but I do think it will be interesting. In I 466 00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.280 haven't played video games in a long time, so that's that's you know, 467 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.559 my wife is like anti video game because I would be addicted to it. 468 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.239 So that's my other concern for me is my personality go like look, even 469 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.199 with live streaming the cow lovel I would live stream all day every day if 470 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.639 I can figure out how to make money at it and take care of my 471 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.519 family. I'd be like, Oh, cool, honey, I'm going in 472 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.480 here to turn on my computer for eight hours and I'm just going to live 473 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.119 stream and do whatever. Like it's a lot of fun, but that's the 474 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.840 you know, addicting personality. So it'll be interesting long term to see what 475 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:44.599 this does healthwise to people, like if it motivates them, inspires them, 476 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.559 you know, or if it, you know, makes people wither away and 477 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.480 lose relationships and become like those because we all know those people who've sit in 478 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:58.239 front of their computer for hours, basically pan in bottles and eating pizza in 479 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.000 never moving and losing their whole entire families, in their whole entire lives. 480 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.320 And that's like kind of scary, and that's what that's what is kind of 481 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.639 like. Is that kind of be us, like, because I missed people 482 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.559 in real life, like, I know, I've been on an island in 483 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.559 a country I don't speak the language, so I've been isolated for ten months. 484 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:15.639 I'm like the last thing I want to do is put on a headset 485 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.639 and sit in my office and right, what's up, guys, like I 486 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.079 want to go see people, you know. So I'm a little different perspective. 487 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.119 Well, but I mean, I could feel too, you know, 488 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.199 it was that's one of the things we all love about clubhouse. You though, 489 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:36.440 it's just a picture, a smiling picture that had a little gray vibrating 490 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.960 thing with someone was talking. I would go in a room. I feel 491 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.880 like I was hanging out with my friends, like, I'll see billy's taken 492 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.840 the stage. I was going there and listen to them. Hey, band, 493 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.719 you know, maybe I'll come up for a minute, but it's still 494 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.960 feels like I'm hanging out with my friends. It doesn't feel like I'm just 495 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.119 sitting on the phone right through. So it'll probably just ease us into it, 496 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.599 just like everything else. It'll just like, let's become a part of 497 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.840 life, just like careing our phones room. What I think? Yeah, 498 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.599 no, exactly. And I think that if it if the panda, I 499 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.519 do think that if the pandemic had not happened and shut down, I mean 500 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.800 because it wasn't just like the state of Colorado or I mean it was the 501 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.599 entire world. So everyone had to figure out new ways to meet people. 502 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.400 Everyone had to figure it out and and it. I don't think anyone's going 503 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.559 to go back to me and like oh well, I don't talk to people 504 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:28.559 online. You know, I feel I feel like this is this is going 505 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.039 to it's way more mainstream. Mean think about meeting, you know, a 506 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.880 significant other on matchcom or are on the harmony. Back when I was in 507 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.320 college, it was like, Oh gosh, I don't want to tell people 508 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.920 that I'm on match, but now it's I was like, Oh, yeah, 509 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.079 we met online, it's not a big deal. Yeah, and I 510 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.079 think it's get to watch out for those filters. You know what's up for 511 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.719 those filter avatars, though. They're going to get you. Yeah, for 512 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.679 Real, for you all, and I mean like that's one of things too, 513 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.800 is if we're all got walking around as these cartoon dogs or or ape 514 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.239 Sir drafts, and that's how we always like, you know, I there's 515 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.559 there's one person that's I always see as a giraffe and I'm like, I 516 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.920 don't you know that that guy could be sitting right next to me in this 517 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.320 office, right over here, I would never know it was him, because 518 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.840 I just know him as this Giraffe, you know, and so it gives 519 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.800 you that kind of a humandity, I guess, like you want to carry 520 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.800 it well, and that's kind of the the the interesting thing about, you 521 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.079 know, for my research of like web three and all this to centralized stuff. 522 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.400 Is it, you know, like right now, like Mark Zuckerberg his 523 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.679 team bill get, you know, all these guys, Jeff Bezos, like 524 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.960 they can like basically track everything you're doing, like even if you are like, 525 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.840 I mean, you know, I was. I heard somebody talk about 526 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:50.199 that. They started getting ads for, you know, baby stuff and being 527 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.000 a Dad and like a dad journal and all this stuff, and he's like 528 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.320 why am I getting this? And then like a few days later, his 529 00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:00.039 wife's like, Hey, I'm pregnant and you know, so she'd probably been 530 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.000 doing some research, looking up stuff like blah, blah, blah, Blah 531 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.440 Blah, and then he starts getting targeted for that information and it's like holy 532 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.800 cal do, that's so weird. But I guess with this, from my 533 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:16.719 understanding, it's supposed to kind of deteriorate that control system in and it becomes, 534 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.880 you know, less and less of like one corporation owner data. Yeah, 535 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.519 yeah, so I guess that's the it's the safety and the non safety 536 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.840 of it, because it seems like you can just get into a metaverse and 537 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.480 screw some stuff up and nobody is all accountable because they can just like hide 538 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.159 it within this virtual world. It's definitely kind of the wild wild west right 539 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.800 now, but I mean it's it. I do I do think that with 540 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:50.320 with our data? Why, why are we allowing a bunch of rich white 541 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.199 men to own it? Why are we giving up all of our access to 542 00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:00.239 our shopping history to strangers and took brands and businesses? Now, as a 543 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.840 marketer, I love it because I can target exactly who I want to see 544 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.360 my ads. But at the same time, as a content creator, billy, 545 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.800 don't you think that you so if you make some real and it goes 546 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.159 viral and you get over a million views on it and you're talking about a 547 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.199 swifter, like, you know, those dust things. Let's say you're just 548 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.239 talking about a swifter just because to be funny, and it goes viral and 549 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:34.760 let's say facebook gives you three hundred bucks for it. You cause so much 550 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.320 content for that, for that business. You made so much money for facebook 551 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.440 and probably for the swifter. But I mean like, why should you only 552 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.239 get three, three hundred bucks? Shouldn't you own what you're creating? Shouldn't 553 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.679 you own your community? Shouldn't you own your your followers? I mean that 554 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:58.519 we saw last year when facebook went down. Everyone on facebook and instagram was 555 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.920 like Bo what do I do? I've never gotten more emails in my entire 556 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.360 life because everyone went to their email list. It was like facebook is down. 557 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.880 If you still want to do business with me, here's where my website 558 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.119 but I mean, Kabie, I hold the cops. They didn't do anythings 559 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.000 like cold you help me. So, yeah, I do remember that, 560 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:23.079 people calling that woman like that. That's businesses, in brands and creators should 561 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.840 be able to shouldn't have to rely on somebody else if they want to talk 562 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.960 to their to their community. Yeah, so, but but we're still going 563 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.199 to rely on someone else, right, unless we all create our own world 564 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.000 and invite people to them. Right. Well, and I mean this is 565 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.840 this is kind of where, you know, having those those discords, having 566 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.960 those nfts, that that's kind of I believe the first step into this matter 567 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:58.519 verse space is Nfts, because it's it's you finding. I mean these I 568 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.320 oft communities, allot of them, are no different than a facebook group. 569 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.920 You know, you just don't need to spend your time on facebook to be 570 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.440 a part of it. He's got to spend all day on discord. But 571 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.280 I mean you can still watch live video, you can still have social audio 572 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.239 chats, you can, I mean like, you can still have conversations being 573 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.119 made. So I think that it's we're still trying to we're still trying to 574 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.400 figure it all out, but I do think that vet's are the first step 575 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.039 into the metaverse and what you know with with these big players in the text 576 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.400 space, Elon, with twitter, suck with Facebook, you know Bill Gates 577 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.079 with Linkedin. It's just a matter of time until some level of US immersing 578 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.119 our self one hundred percent into their platforms is going to happen. Yeah, 579 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.440 yeah, that makes sense. I mean that's whether that's why they're there's whe 580 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.760 they're trying to pave the way and gain control and all that kind of fun 581 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.159 stuff. I mean, is what it is and I think that's the challenge 582 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.440 for us. But you know, so I guess my question it would be 583 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.519 this like, and I'm trying to brainstorm use cases, is like a creator, 584 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:08.039 like if I create this real I mean, what does creating it in 585 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.960 web three versus web to give me any more rights and access to it? 586 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.480 Is it a turn into an N FFT and I sell it to that company 587 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.199 or what? I mean, how does that work like? What do you 588 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.119 what do you foresee? I know we're and I know stuff is like we're 589 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.960 speculating, because everything's being made up. It seems like every single day something 590 00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:32.440 news happening. So yeah, I mean that that's where, you know, 591 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.599 if I I didn't unboxing for these issues, actually that I'm warning right now. 592 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.480 So I didn't done boxing for them, and I got a lot of 593 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.320 people saying like Oh, what brand ors those? Where'd you get those? 594 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.280 That out it? Uh. Well, you know, if I wanted to 595 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.199 sell that little video to Incas, which is where I got the shoes, 596 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.639 and be like hey, look, a lot of people like this unboxing that 597 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.920 I did, you know, it's five bucks. You can use it on 598 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.840 your platforms, you know, and that way I'm getting credit, you know. 599 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.039 So that's that's where you could sell it to brand. You could turn, 600 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.920 like you said, turn it into an nft a one of one and 601 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.679 like okay, if you want to have this, this video without hit over 602 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.320 a million people or whatever, if you want to own the rights to this 603 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:29.360 episode of creating daily, you know it'll cost x and it might cost fourteen 604 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:34.000 cents. Or let's say someone buys it and really likes it and wants to 605 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.639 turn it into a TV episode and they want to sell out for fourteen hundred 606 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.320 you still get a percentage of that because you were the original creator. So, 607 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.440 no matter what happens to it, everyone has the opportunity to you know, 608 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.559 you have the opportunity to continue making money off of it. Could you 609 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.039 with a creator? Yeah, that makes sense that I think that's a good 610 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.679 thing about it too. It's like that's what I like about these nfte projects 611 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.039 as I can buy into it, I can watch it grow or want to 612 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.519 die, whatever, but any time I want to sell it, I can 613 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.639 probably get something back out of it and I think as a consumer that's really 614 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.440 amazing and I guess as the producer it's like, okay, this is cool. 615 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.480 I mean I guess it's cool. I'm trying to figure that out. 616 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.119 Like I signed Katie up. She buys my nft once she's in my community. 617 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.880 Now I'm signed up for like ten years to say, okay, I'm 618 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.199 going to show up every Thursday morning at five am to talk to you about 619 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.320 something. Like when does that end? For me, is the creator. 620 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.000 You know now I'm bound to tenzero people forever, you know, for that 621 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.320 utility so well, but then people that you know, let's say, let's 622 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.079 say you change it and like actually it's just going to be once a month 623 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.280 now and people are like, well, this isn't what I bought in for, 624 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.159 then then, just so they can tell it all right, well, 625 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.840 I was good, buy it like good with once a month. That works 626 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.079 for me. So those utilities are flexible. It's not. It's not a 627 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.039 contract for the life of ownership. It's just whatever I deem at that moment, 628 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:04.639 whatever time Gotcha. See, that's the stuff that I think is really 629 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.880 important. Maybe we could go through that, because I know you're you start 630 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.119 a NFT challenge, so you've probably walking through that. So I didn't show 631 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.440 up tonight one, so this probably my fault. Probably answer all these questions. 632 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.400 So tell us about that, because here's the thing that I think is 633 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.639 really interesting is there's a lot of people excited about it, but I hardly 634 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.519 know any people who really know like what the heck is going on as a 635 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.599 consumer. I mean I know like people like you and some other people are 636 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.519 producing projects, but I'm like, Hey, you just bought fivezero dollars worth 637 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.360 nfte's and like what do you know about the projects there are? God, 638 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.280 I don't know, man. Somebody told me I just got a metal wallet 639 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:42.119 and that's it, and I'm buying stuff and I'm like, yeah, this 640 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.320 is what I just don't like about this stuff. It's like it's like a 641 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.119 real like hype industry right now. It seems like in it seems super volatile, 642 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.599 and that's what I'm trying to figure out, is like how is the 643 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.320 Creator? Do I get into the space but do it in a way that 644 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.000 is really beneficial to people, because I just don't want to do a cash 645 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:06.400 grab and I don't want anybody grabbing my cash either. Yeah, for Real, 646 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.960 and I think that that is where the the whole nft space is getting 647 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.320 kind of a bad rap, because there are people that are out there just 648 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.440 making cash grabs and trying to, you know, like mint out and then 649 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.119 that's it and then you get the rug pulled. So so well, last 650 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.840 night, you know, we it's a five day challenge and at the end 651 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.920 of this challenge you're going to walk away with your own and ft and for 652 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.079 free in your own little hot wallet. But yet that last night's episode was 653 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:36.440 kind of just what of what's the what is an nft? And for anyone 654 00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.639 listening, and nft is a non fungible token, and I had no idea 655 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:46.239 what the word fungible meant before Ed teas came out. But if it just 656 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:54.880 really quickly something fungeable, fungeable is like a dollar. So I could give 657 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.840 you ten dollars, billy, and then say hey, yeah, pay me 658 00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.360 back next week, and you could give me ten dollars back. Now it 659 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.719 might not be the exact same ten dollar bill, but it's still works the 660 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.719 same way. I can still spent. You can give me a five and 661 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:16.480 five one. It's that's fungeable. Now, non fungeable is like the Mona 662 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.840 Lisa. I give you the Mona Lisa and say hey, I give this 663 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:28.480 back to me for my gallery next week, and you give me a mon 664 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.480 A, I'm going to be really mad. I mean you have both great 665 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.320 pieces of art, very very valuable pieces of art, but I didn't get 666 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.599 you know, I didn't give you a Monea, I gave you the Mona 667 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.360 Lisa. So that is something that is non fungible. So we talked about 668 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:49.199 that last night. Today we are going to be diving into technology. So 669 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.400 like what is a cold wallet? What is the block chain? Tomorrow's we're 670 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.400 going to be talking all about how you how you can use it as a 671 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.159 creator and in showing different case studies of like how a nonprofit has done it, 672 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.480 how small businesses are doing it, how different musicians are doing it. 673 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.280 So Day three is going to be showing you a lot of examples and then 674 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.760 we get into it. But again, at the very end of the whole 675 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:19.800 challenge you are going to walk away with a free nftee and you get some 676 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.480 we get. We're giving away prizes every day too, so you get some 677 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.079 fun stuff. That's awesome. So is this an nft that you or launching 678 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.400 or is it someone else's project in your being a part of it? So 679 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.719 the Yes, yes, launching both of them. So it's my very first 680 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.119 NFT project that I've been a part of and it's me and my friend Vince, 681 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:49.840 and he lives in New Zealand and our artist lives in Australia. So 682 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.800 I mean like we're a global NFTE company, but it's the first, the 683 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:59.400 first one that you get is is called a country club nft and it's just 684 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.800 too it's free and the whole purpose behind it is just to give you a 685 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.239 transparent way of NFT's and how you can use them if you want to sell 686 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.400 it on the open on open sea. Just see what that's like. It 687 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.199 didn't cost you anything just to get started. And so so, yeah, 688 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.199 so we I think this, like I said before, and I we're kind 689 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.920 of at the end of our time, billy, but I think this, 690 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:29.239 this web three space, is coming and if we can just pay it forward 691 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.599 and try to all learn about it together now, and hey, if it 692 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.960 doesn't end up working out, you got to learn about some really cool ways 693 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:44.000 of building community and finding community and some really cool technology. But if it 694 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.119 is the future, well then you are going to be one step ahead of 695 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.079 everyone else. You are going to be able to help more of those around 696 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.559 you learn about this, because it's it's not easy. There's a lot of 697 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.440 new lingo, there's a lot of new terms, it's a lot of newness 698 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.639 around technology, and I mean I remember my very remember with my first iphone. 699 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.880 I was like, why would I want to have, you know, 700 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.119 music on my phone? I have my ipod and I like having my two 701 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.360 devices and I can't. I don't even know anyone that els an ipod now. 702 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:22.840 So I remember those days too. I remember when picture messaging came out 703 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.039 on the IPHONE. I was selling iphones and it was like, dude, 704 00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.639 this is crazy, but you could even send a picture for like five days, 705 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.960 like you just couldn't do it. So super amounts of fun. Yeah, 706 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.000 I think it's going to be and I think it's going to get easier. 707 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.400 You know, right now it is. It is a pain, you 708 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:43.519 know, and that's a part of the reason why I'm like, Dude, 709 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.239 I don't want to have to study how to give money away, like this 710 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.159 is the hardest ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my entire life. In like 711 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.519 to buy an NFD for the first time Twen, I was like yeah, 712 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.119 but I was like, Oh, I gotta get a Wallet, Oh it's 713 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.239 going to be eat, oh it's going to be this coin. Could be 714 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:01.800 that point, I'm like too, can we just please? And I think 715 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.360 this's the, you know, some of the pain points which hopefully get worked 716 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.440 out and hopefully the technology or the or, you know, the systems are 717 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.599 in place where people can take their real money and buy their fake money. 718 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.239 So this be you know what I'm saying. It's like, how do I 719 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.159 just credit card one making it's you know, you're saying like, Oh, 720 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.639 I gotta buy eight and are a know it's bitcoin or what, but we 721 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.079 have a lot of currency in the world as it is. If I wanted 722 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.559 to send, if I wanted to end thence in Australia some money, if 723 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.199 I said, Hey, I want to go ahead and buy your your book 724 00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.360 from you, or I want to pay for your some coaching from you, 725 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.880 it's would have to go through a water transfer, like I can't send him 726 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.239 US dollars, you know, like my contractors, one of my designers, 727 00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.559 she lives overseas and I have to send a wire transfer for her and the 728 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.639 value fluctuates. It's the same idea. You know, we use have money 729 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.159 without orders, though, but I think the difference, though, if I 730 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.880 had to push back on that a little bit, is it's like every project 731 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.039 it seems like someone's like, Oh, check at my project. There, 732 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.360 cool, I'm going to go check it out. Oh, I like this, 733 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:14.159 I'm going to buy and they use like a different blockchain and there's like 734 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.719 twenty five different blockchains. I'm like why? I mean, can you know? 735 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.400 So now I got Eith, but then I got to like transfer that. 736 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.360 Then I get pre this gas fee which is more than the amount of 737 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.880 eat I have in my account, and I'm like how? Why? This 738 00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.000 is so complicated. But I'm looking. I know it's going to get easier. 739 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.719 It has to if the general public is going to be a widespread adoption 740 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.880 and people were going to do it, because it just can't be complicated. 741 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.880 And this is you know, there's somebody that is in my circle and they 742 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.559 keep saying you need to drop an nft for your fishing podcast, and might 743 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.440 dude, I have two hundred members signed up, or nearly two hundred's getting 744 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:54.480 it's getting close, for additional membership. But it's easy. It's a it's 745 00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.599 a put your credit card number in. It's automatically deducting every single month. 746 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.800 You know, it's like simple. You get one log in. It's simple, 747 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.519 and I think that's where I've left. That's what I like to think 748 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:13.800 that the Seguay for you. If I, if it were if you were 749 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.559 me, I would look into launching a creator coin. Yeah, but well 750 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.559 then, once again, like I did look into that. But I think 751 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.960 to get on some of these plat world comfort the platform I was looking at, 752 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.159 it was like you're to have a ridiculous amount of influence on the Internet, 753 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:31.840 like followers and all that kind of stuff. I just don't think it's 754 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:37.519 for the average person to launch projects quite yet. Well, no, I 755 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.719 mean, like if that's with any sort of I mean like you have to 756 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:45.760 have a community already. Yeah, yeah, you have or something that. 757 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:52.599 So, yeah, I mean like gets it's you have to have that community 758 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.000 already. And if, if you're looking for an easy entry of getting people 759 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.280 into web, three creator coins are great way of doing it, because you 760 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.119 only need to have your credit card. You don't need to have an eth, 761 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.079 you need to have a hot wallet, you don't need to have any 762 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.679 of that. So if you were going to create one, and I don't 763 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:13.480 understand all this, I'm like, I'm looking into it, I mean I'm 764 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.320 studying it, and I'm being a peps a pestimist, a pestim I'm paying 765 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.760 pep pestimistic whatever. However, TEP. Yeah, there we go. I 766 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:25.000 get say it because I because I am like okay, and it's really and 767 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.840 we could talk offline because it is one of those, you know, frustrating 768 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.360 things for me, because I do see power players in these markets who are 769 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.920 telling the average person, the average creator, like you can do this, 770 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.639 I'm going to help you and you're going to make a lot of money. 771 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:46.440 Off of it and I look at their online world and I go I know 772 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:51.719 what this takes because I do have a decent size audience and I know the 773 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.840 percentage of conversion that I've had in the first ninety days of this project. 774 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.079 In this is a huge learning curve for the average person and you don't have 775 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.880 a huge audience to even get a small percentage those like whatever percentage would convert 776 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:10.639 with us. D'S WAY probably way smaller to convert to a coin or right, 777 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.400 you know, rally corner, whatever that is. So but if I 778 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:17.440 was going to start a coin, what platform would you recommend someone go to 779 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.719 and take a peek and see what the requirements are? Well, rally is 780 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.599 one of the biggest ones out there and when you get started, they give 781 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.199 you like, depending on what your following is and everything, they give you 782 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.920 let's say Tenzero Tokens, and then that's where you can say, okay, 783 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.039 if you you know, buy in, you know, I'll give I'll match 784 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.320 you two to one. So then they get more tokens and all that, 785 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.159 and you can use them as giveaways and people who are active in the community 786 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:50.719 you can give them away. But I know I one hundred percent agree there 787 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.119 are some people out there who say like yeah, so let's go launch a 788 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:58.280 creator coin, and you have to have you have to have people that are 789 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.960 already in your sphere. You can I mean you can't just be a start 790 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:07.039 up with a hundred followers on instagram and expect to have a successful, you 791 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:13.480 know, crypto economy, a creator economy at right out the gate. And 792 00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.639 that's where web three, you know, we're sitting here doing this, live 793 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.920 together, we're collaborating, and that's what I think. You know, that's 794 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.840 what we learned from clubhouse. It's collaboration is everything. If you can find 795 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.920 other people in your industry or with a similar audience, you need to collaborate 796 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.639 with them if you want to have your project be a success. And that's 797 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:44.440 what that's what I really love about web three is that these communities are collaborating 798 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:50.119 instead of competing, not worried about Oh, Nike versus Adidas. You know, 799 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:54.360 two people, you know to communities that have a similar audience are coming 800 00:56:54.400 --> 00:57:00.880 together to join forces to make everyone better, and that's that's why I see 801 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.440 coming from the the that's what three world. I think that we have to 802 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.199 be willing to collaborate with it. But as when you're first getting started, 803 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.719 collaboration is going to be everything for you and and that's really what's going to 804 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.760 be the main driver of moving the needle. Yeah, I love that, 805 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.400 Katie. I think you're one of the good ones. So I appreciate what 806 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.280 you're doing. I appreciate your running ahead and, you know, figuring the 807 00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.119 stuff out and bringing people along and doing your nft challenge. I think it's 808 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.000 huge, because I do think it's, you know, hugely important that we 809 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.880 learn this stuff but then also be, you know, mindful and cautious and 810 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:39.960 make sure we're following our gut at the end of the day, because, 811 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.239 you know, I'm in these spaces all the time. I'm always trying, 812 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:45.480 you know, if somebody's trying to figure out how to monetize, its me, 813 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.360 like I'm over here like eyes wide open, like how do we make 814 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.119 money as creators, because that's one of my passions, is to see people 815 00:57:53.800 --> 00:58:00.119 not be held by finances to launch their message. And so, you know, 816 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.079 I'm a little disappointed at times, you know, some most days, 817 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.719 when I log in this somewhere and I'm like wow, this is really happening, 818 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:09.559 like you're you're just doing a cash grab, like this is cool, 819 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.760 like good for you, but I think it's you know, focus on what 820 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.440 we're doing, folks, on learning it in, you know, connecting with 821 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.440 the right people who are doing it, so truly build community, because I 822 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:25.199 do see even these communities that I'm like, I just feel lucky, but 823 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.960 they have this cult style following this blows me away and like wow, this 824 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.119 is crazy, you know. So, anyway, I'm rightly gonna get some 825 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.960 hate messages for this, but I think it's true. I think that's what 826 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.760 we're doing in the creator world. Is like we got to be true, 827 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:43.079 we got to be honest and we got to look at this thing through, 828 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.000 you know, like a lens of Hey, what's really going to benefit us 829 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.159 at the end of the day, end of the day, and not just, 830 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.360 you know, creating the next Mark Zuckerberg in web three, right, 831 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:59.719 because it's what it's yes, signed, not yet exactly. Anyway, Zac 832 00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.119 ranch is over, I hit a spot there. For a couple seconds, 833 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:07.000 I've out lost my focus, because I just love people, man, I 834 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.480 want them to succeed and I don't want to see people get taken advantage of, 835 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.880 and this is no, I agree, just a everything. I mean 836 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.760 yeah, no, I built really I agree and I do think there will, 837 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.960 just like with any space, any space, there's going to I mean, 838 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:28.039 who else gets random text messages saying that you know so and so just 839 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.119 won the lottery? You know, to text them it with my Venmo so 840 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:35.599 I can get seventy grand. You know, true, there's always going to 841 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.079 be true honors out there. There's always going to be better trying to do 842 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.000 things the wrong way and man, they're feel like these people, a lot 843 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.679 of these people that are trying to that do it the wrong way. They're 844 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.760 so smart. If they just applied their their smarts for good, they could 845 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.800 make such an impact in the world, but instead they're doing it the wrong 846 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.599 way and it's unfortunate. And then for you know, in that case you 847 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.480 just really have to know who you who do all. I'm with and you 848 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:05.079 know, do your research. Love it, Katie. Well, this has 849 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.079 been a great conversation. Once again, I don't know that you and I'll 850 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.639 be back next week. I kind of figure that out because that, like 851 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:16.400 I said, I underestimated the the the bigness of a move, even though 852 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:21.519 I've already done it once in a year. But I really appreciate everything you're 853 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.360 doing. I think you're awesome. Everyone to go follow Katie. I am 854 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:29.519 Katie Brinkley on instagram. I've linked your linked tree in the show note so 855 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.000 people can find it there and follow you. Is Your Five Day challenge on 856 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:37.199 there on your linked tree? It isn't, but I hope go put it 857 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:39.280 on there. Actually we're already started but, like I said, we only 858 01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:44.679 you can watch yesterday's video if you join the group today and, like I 859 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.400 said, we walk you through step by step on how to do this whole 860 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:52.159 n FFT thing. Why you should pay attention or you know, afterwards you 861 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:53.320 can walk away and be like, okay, that was interesting. It's not 862 01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:57.800 for me. So at least you learned something and very end of it you 863 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.519 get your own free at that's awesome, Katie. High five to you and 864 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.000 Vince for doing that, and we'll catch you next week for sure. Thank 865 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.039 you so much for jumping in. Bye Bye. See you all right, 866 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:13.800 everybody. That is a wrap for creating daily today. Hope you learned a 867 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.639 lot. I learned a lot. I got some different perspective, I got 868 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.400 my mind is going on a hundred miles an hour of like you know, 869 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.599 how do I get in here and study this web three because I've probably, 870 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.480 if you couldn't tell, been a little like I'm gonna Resist, but I 871 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.599 definitely think it is a thing for us to pay attention to and all these 872 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:35.039 bigger platforms are being attention to it, in even one of the platforms I'm 873 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.960 live streaming onto right now, or really gearing up and really focusing on how 874 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.679 can they be a part of web three and help creators and do all that 875 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.280 kind of stuff. So really appreciate you join me. Join me tomorrow. 876 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:50.119 I'm going to be on with my friend Doc rock. If you don't know 877 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.920 him, he's Biggen the live streaming world. Is a community manager over at 878 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.639 e Cam. So his his video bet to be working on. Grill him 879 01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.199 right here on the show now. He's a good dude. We're going to 880 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.360 talk about the power of live streaming, probably all things creatorship live streaming. 881 01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.760 Super Great Guy and and he's got a goal to reach one billion people, 882 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.800 so we're going to dive into that. So join me tomorrow same time, 883 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.440 to PM Eastern time, one PM Central and and we'll see you then. 884 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.320 All right, I have a great day and I'm gonna find my last scene 885 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.000 button here it's not here, there it is. See You guys later