Bullying Prevention & Awareness: Dina Buno’s Powerful Advocacy Story

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to another episode of Crazy Fitness Guys Healthy

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Living Podcast. Today I got my friend Dina, who's

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an autism advocate, motivational speaker, and

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I just kind of joined. And I'm the star of the

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Dina movie. And she's also the star of the Dina

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movie. And I just joined first. forces with her

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like a month or two ago, three ago, a third ago.

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Time flies too fast. Yeah, I'm going to go where

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it's quiet here. This is the perfect thing. Today,

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me and Dean are going to talk about bullying

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and why it's terrible, obnoxious, and talk about

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both of our stories about bullying for Bully

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Awareness Month in October. So Dina, I heard

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that you got bullied when you were growing up.

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What was it like for you? Well, oh yeah, I got

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bullied my whole entire life for many different

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reasons. And I think that, what was it like for

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me? Oh, it was horrible, especially, well, as

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long as I can remember. I remember way back.

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When I was three years old, starting this nursery

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school like two days a week because my mom would

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keep, you know, bring me there just to meet friends.

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And, you know, she had no idea that I couldn't

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communicate really well because I was on the

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spectrum. So like I went to like little day camps

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and it started there because, you know, I was

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delayed in a lot of areas. So, you know. You

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know, they didn't know who I was. And when you

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get peers that are three years old and they see

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you doing stuff, they ask you questions. And

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then the older kids were bullying me. And then

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it got worse when I was in kindergarten and I

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was in a class of like 30 and I was different.

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And, you know, I got pulled out of kindergarten.

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They had kids going back as far as I can remember

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hitting me and all that. You know, I had no idea

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kindergartners can be mean. And then, you know,

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that was very painful. And, you know, there is

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a difference between bullying, like when you

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get glasses and people say, you know, four eyes.

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But the worst part was that people making you

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eat things that are inappropriate and you're

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autistic. like eating a grasshopper eating crowns

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um you know then um you know my mom pulled me

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out of kindergarten um because uh of severe bullying

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and the parents were bullies too um and people

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were bullying me in the supermarket when i went

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with my mom because you know cry and then i wet

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my myself you know these things and i got diagnosed

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with disabilities like since like I was tested

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at like three. And so I was always a subject

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of somebody's bullying. And, you know, I could

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hear people talking. And the worst part is, I

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think, middle schoolers start bullying. Would

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you say, how would you say, you said that...

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Adults bullied you? How did they bully you? Oh,

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well, you know, the worst part is you think the

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bullying is going to end. You know, like, the

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truth is, I don't believe in changing anybody.

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I think God puts us on this earth for a reason.

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And I've heard boys will be boys, girls will

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be girls. The boys' parents change. And then

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the worst part was there were times when the

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bully's parents would ask me, no, I want to play

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devil's advocate here. Why did you let these

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people pick on you? You got to get yourself a

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tough skin, you know? And so the whole idea is

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nowadays I know mothers that are like 55 years

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old. and 52 years old, and they have younger

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kids, but the mother is bullied as well, and

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I don't know where it comes from, and people

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think tough love, and it comes out bullying,

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and so the worst part is being excluded from

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things, even though there were times I went through

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a lot of inclusion, because I was in regular

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school, and you like it, but sometimes you just

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want to go into your show, and You know, I was

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very fortunate in a lot of ways, but in a lot

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of ways, how much can you take? And from, you

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know, people don't think it's trauma. And then

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adults, for example, boyfriends, bullying. There

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podcast link in the show notes. Now let's get

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back to the show. That's bullying for sure, you

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know. Definitely. I know what you mean by that.

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I was bullied through elementary school all the

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way up to high school. Wow. So you understand,

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I believe I'm still bullied. as a grown woman

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you think it ends but um whether people like

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it or not um people think the bullying is a way

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to get people to change um there are so many

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reasons why people bully like some people bully

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you because that makes them feel better and again

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that's probably the reason why people are still

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doing it um well there's uh For instance, I wouldn't

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say I was bullied, but basically I was kind of

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called out in class one time. I think it was

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like three or four years ago, I guess. I forget.

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So me and this one kid in my math class, This

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guy, I believe he had autism, but I could be

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wrong. But he had some kind of a disability.

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And so these two kids in my class, these two

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other students in my class kind of annoyed me

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because like, I don't know how to phrase this,

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but this guy, he didn't always know how to get

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his words out like sometimes me where I'm always

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just looking for words in the back of my head

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at times and that's why I say I'm a lot and he

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doesn't always get the point out like maybe quick

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enough and so these two people kind of just said,

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and I was like, well, if it wasn't for these

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two autistic kids in our class, and I was like,

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excuse me? And I was like, you really want to,

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and plus I was wearing my tiger, I was wearing

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my karate shirt and everything, and I was like,

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these guys really want to say this to me? And

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I was like, yeah, try and start a fight with

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me, because it's like, it's not going to work.

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It sounds to me like these people were similar

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to what I got like one time I was wearing as

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an adult. I remember, you know, it was 10 years

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ago even. I was wearing my fanny pack, which

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I love. It's a whole different one. But someone

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said, you know, that's weird. Nobody wears fanny

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packs anymore. Well, who says? You know, does

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this make you better? You know, I have two landlines

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and a cell phone. And people say, oh, nobody

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has a landline. Well, that's bullying right there.

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Starts of bullying when people start wanting

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to have control and they just don't let things

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be. You know, like bullying used to be like the

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bully used to steal your lunch money. What's

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your definition of bullying? Well, bullying is

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a control issue, badgering and hammering until

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that, you know, you don't give them, you know,

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bullying is badgering and hurting. You know,

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it's a combination. It's just not hurting. because

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a long time ago kids used to get into fighting

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because it wasn't cool to sit there and cry and

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see I was the crier and there was a video that

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you know like I tried to change many times and

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I still do and I'm a lot better but I was told

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um I was hurt really bad so many times with trauma

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you know like autism is complex you know i have

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trouble with sounds i mean it's bad enough that

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i live on a busy street with motorcycles but

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i'm a trauma victim anyway so you know things

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are just as bad it's almost like i had my second

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childhood of people respecting me finally and

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me becoming this strong woman but still people

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try to destroy me and that's just as bad they

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try to bring me down because I've had a lot of

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luck in the couple of years and people want to

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bully you to bring you down so it's badgering

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it's like it's like taking a a little hammer

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and chipping away to see how far that they can

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push you so um I mean, it's hard, you know, I

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want to look up the word bullying, but my own

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words, it's a combination of hurting and it's

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a combination of badgering. I mean, I know 50

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something year old women that, you know, like

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they can't understand a person with trauma and

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autism and PTSD and all the stuff that went on.

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And I'm so, and you know, I'm going through a

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lot. you know waiting to hear from a therapist

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about um about um whether i need a medication

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change because somebody was making fun of me

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last week i mean like um something was eating

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at me that you know some bullies were getting

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to me um some hurtful things and because of all

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this bullying i have a little bit of a tough

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time i mean like it's not straight in the narrow

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so like, I'm here and I'm surviving it. But for

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the next generation of people who are bullying,

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it needs to be nipped in the bud. That's why

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I'm an advocate. I'm very good at helping other

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people, but like, I have to work extremely hard

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at helping myself. And I have my good days, my

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bad days, you know, so. I know how you feel about

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that. I just had the most annoying day on monday

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uh i had some stuff going on with just some stuff

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with my website and uh and i felt like uh yeah

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i just kind of feel like some of the stuff was

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just just not going my way and like i got and

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then it makes you feel worse right yeah i got

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my scam email from uh some from some law firm

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that may or may not be legit in China. And I

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was like, that's awesome. And I was like, I know

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people like my brand, but stop trying to steal

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it. It's like, it's not going to work. You know,

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another thing is I saw your really wonderful

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post. I don't know if you saw that I wrote a

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post and a lot of people, someone, you wrote

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something about people want to change you. People

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want to change the way that we think. I think

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it's both. I feel like I'm not going to say any

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names. I feel like to get along with certain

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people, I have to change just to get along with

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that person. And it's like I always have to adapt

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to around someone, but they don't feel like it.

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I agree with you. It's called, you know, adapting

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to their way of thinking. That's the problem

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I've been having as an adult, that sometimes

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you put on this face, and that's what bullying

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is about in my eyes, like trying to be. adapting

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so you get along in the adult world um there's

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nicer ways of doing it and there was there's

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a bunch of people during this pandemic that don't

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want to be my friend anymore or take a break

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from me because i don't agree with what the anger

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that's going on and i don't agree in feeding

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into the negative so therefore they don't like

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me do you see what i'm saying yeah so it started

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You know, we're all different. This is the whole

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idea that, and I'm not just limiting, it's not

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just for people on the spectrum. We're a big

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target, though, of bullying. How would you, how

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would you, what were your suggestions of improving,

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stopping the bullying? Well, here's the thing.

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It has to start really, really young. before

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the children go to school. And there needs to

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be some kind of a pep talk before they go to

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school in a childlike manner, such as, remember

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if somebody hurts you, you know, when parents

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say, do you have your pencils and your pens and

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your erasers? They need to say, okay, well, remember

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that I love you and you have a safe place to

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go. When you come home and somebody hurts you,

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let me know. And tell me about your day because

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too many parents are not asking children how

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their day was. I mean, they, they, they do that

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when they were younger, but there needs to be

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check -ins to see what I'm saying. Yeah. Here's

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something now just to make it more interesting.

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What if, what if the, what if the bully is, what

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if it was the parent? What if they. what if the

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kids themselves picked up the bullying from their

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parents like the parents were like uh picking

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on them and and they're kind of like thinking

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in their minds like oh i guess this is how other

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people interact with each other so and it's okay

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for me yeah yeah well there needs to be some

00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:42.740
team meetings out there and um to answer your

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question you know There's never going to be a

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straight answer for that because a lot of those

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people who were bullies, the ones that you were

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talking about, that the children pick it up from

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the parents, a lot of times they leave for school

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and they start saying, get your butt to school,

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get an education. And then they witness their

00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:10.029
parents, you know, talking bad. And the kids

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start listening and hearing this stuff. And the

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parents are like, where did you hear that? Well,

00:19:14.250 --> 00:19:17.220
from you. it's like smoking a cigarette you know

00:19:17.220 --> 00:19:19.799
it's like you feed the fire it's like lighting

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a fire and then all of a sudden that's my analogy

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and you throw some water on it it grows bigger

00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.339
and bigger well that's exactly what bullying

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is in a lot of families and that's like even

00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:34.079
like Tell your kid to stop bullying, but you're

00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.819
bullying someone else or you're bossing someone

00:19:36.819 --> 00:19:39.579
else's. It's one thing to tell somebody what

00:19:39.579 --> 00:19:45.259
to do if someone is a boss and say, oh, I'm telling

00:19:45.259 --> 00:19:48.940
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to, unless they're your kid, but you don't have

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any rights to boss people around. And, you know,

00:21:03.549 --> 00:21:06.670
there's, you know, bullying doesn't always stay

00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:11.930
consistent. Like, for example, you know, I was

00:21:11.930 --> 00:21:15.450
in special ed the majority of my life, and I

00:21:15.450 --> 00:21:18.970
got mainstreamed into regular classes, and, you

00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:21.369
know, the bullying was less, but when you're

00:21:21.369 --> 00:21:24.509
in with behavior problem kids, because, you know,

00:21:24.529 --> 00:21:34.059
I had a class switch. I switched schools. From

00:21:34.059 --> 00:21:38.980
special school, I was bullied because I went

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to a special school at first. Then I went to

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regular middle school and it was half and half.

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And my mom said to me, well, this is what you

00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.859
wanted. We worked really hard for this. And I

00:21:50.859 --> 00:21:53.420
kept saying to myself, yeah, I worked really

00:21:53.420 --> 00:21:56.869
hard for this academically, but Nobody told me

00:21:56.869 --> 00:21:59.630
people were going to be bullying. Like my mom

00:21:59.630 --> 00:22:03.109
brainwashed me, or my mom told, not brainwashed

00:22:03.109 --> 00:22:06.130
me, but she told me the truth. But I got brainwashed

00:22:06.130 --> 00:22:09.789
by some teachers. Excuse me, my mom told me the

00:22:09.789 --> 00:22:11.769
truth. She said, some people aren't always going

00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:14.170
to be nice to you. And then I bet you, you're

00:22:14.170 --> 00:22:15.670
such a nice person. You're going to have all

00:22:15.670 --> 00:22:18.730
these friends. And then, you know, they're not

00:22:18.730 --> 00:22:23.569
going to, schools are not prepared. And now the

00:22:23.569 --> 00:22:27.009
workshops are getting better because we have

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the Autism Society, which deals with all different

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kinds of disabilities. We deal with ARC. We're

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networking with parents. Suspensions are happening.

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But we have a much bigger issue. We have gang

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violence and we have shootings. I like to bring

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something up. I read somewhere a few years ago,

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I don't know if it's still going on, but I saw

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a few states were fining families up to a few

00:23:04.779 --> 00:23:08.480
thousand bucks for bullying other people. And

00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.440
I was like, hey, maybe we should all get that

00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.700
on board. Well, good idea. I think the whole

00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:15.140
entire world, I think that people need to lose

00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:21.059
money. And we need to be funded. I've been said

00:23:21.059 --> 00:23:25.539
to my parents, if I ever had a kid growing when

00:23:25.539 --> 00:23:30.599
I'm older, and if I ever found out he was bullying

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someone else, he'd be grounded for a year. I'll

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take a variety of TV, computers, games. Yeah,

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it's the same thing. You know, nowadays parents

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are networking or saying, okay, computer time

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and people are learning to say they're sorry.

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Some of the parents wouldn't have it. When I

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was being bullied, my mom went down the street

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and told this one family that like, well, somebody

00:23:56.430 --> 00:23:59.089
threw a rock at me and I passed out. Oh, that

00:23:59.089 --> 00:24:01.670
was trauma. And I'll never forget it. The girl

00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:05.490
was my age. She was in my Girl Scout troop and

00:24:05.490 --> 00:24:08.369
she never got in trouble for what she did. She

00:24:08.369 --> 00:24:10.470
was verbally and mentally, she hit me with a

00:24:10.470 --> 00:24:14.589
stick, a rock. You know, I had a concussion because

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:19.210
of her. And then, you know, also kids opening

00:24:19.210 --> 00:24:26.150
fire in like Columbine and Park, you know, Parkview

00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:32.349
School, the one in Florida, which was like all

00:24:32.349 --> 00:24:35.049
this, all over the place. There were so many

00:24:35.049 --> 00:24:38.190
school shootings. Well, then you get domestic

00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:41.990
violence. The parents probably bullied them.

00:24:42.710 --> 00:24:46.349
And then they think that they got to have control.

00:24:46.789 --> 00:24:50.809
And well, look what happened to me. Not only

00:24:50.809 --> 00:24:54.829
was I bullied, but it didn't stop. And I grew

00:24:54.829 --> 00:24:58.609
up thinking I needed to be bullied. So the thing

00:24:58.609 --> 00:25:01.829
is, I stayed in that relationship two years too

00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:07.410
long. it became this whole idea well i'm stuck

00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:14.049
um you feel sorry um and we live in a society

00:25:14.049 --> 00:25:22.309
saying that you know you feel sorry um and then

00:25:22.309 --> 00:25:27.529
i feel sometimes needy um i'm healing now but

00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:30.829
i had to go through um i've been in therapy my

00:25:30.829 --> 00:25:34.599
whole life thank god kudos to my mom you know

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.140
because she was the one that wanted to take me

00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:43.059
and she did a great job but um when you're bullied

00:25:43.059 --> 00:25:47.680
as a child you start thinking you're bad and

00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:52.279
then look at me i mean you know um the pandemic

00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.740
hit and i'm having a really hard time with sounds

00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:00.400
with people criticizing me and telling me that

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.500
I don't think like everybody else so therefore

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:08.039
like it's hard for me to watch the news and people

00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:10.279
say that you know I'm kind of wimpy because I'm

00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.640
not strong but these people like some of these

00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.079
people were actually my friends but they like

00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:23.119
like one girl told me that I shouldn't have I

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.880
put myself in a situation to get attacked by

00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:31.349
that guy No, he did it. He wrote it all over

00:26:31.349 --> 00:26:36.490
Facebook. You know, so what I'm saying is that

00:26:36.490 --> 00:26:40.509
bullying is not just, you know, bullying should

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be prevented. There needs to be. For free. Go

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00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.240
yourself because you're not worth living and

00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:57.619
then the suicide rate is going sky high. either

00:27:57.619 --> 00:27:59.980
talking about it because they've been bullied

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:02.119
and they were told to kill themselves. Well,

00:28:02.259 --> 00:28:06.180
I'm passionate about this to everybody else who's

00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:08.579
listening because this all happened to me. And

00:28:08.579 --> 00:28:13.720
like, I get mad at myself and I bully myself.

00:28:13.900 --> 00:28:16.259
I say, you know, I'm a bad person. I know that

00:28:16.259 --> 00:28:19.980
deep down inside I'm good, but I'm having a,

00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.480
you know, the pandemic is not doing good. You

00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.539
know, we're not doing too good. I mean, it's

00:28:26.539 --> 00:28:28.519
always a pleasure, you know, talking with you

00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.900
because, you know, we make a good team and you

00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:34.599
don't look down upon me. I'm just like you, except

00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.259
I'm like 20 years older. You know, I'm exactly,

00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.539
I mean, well, I'm less than that, but I'm 53

00:28:43.539 --> 00:28:48.619
now and I'm living actually a pretty good life

00:28:48.619 --> 00:28:53.619
except for, but my job that I had gotten. What

00:28:53.619 --> 00:28:56.740
was a certified peer specialist for autistic

00:28:56.740 --> 00:28:58.640
people and I'm supposed to help them navigate

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.240
their way through life a lot of them have been

00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.079
bullied a lot of them are young and aging out

00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.680
of the system and Some of them are even more

00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.700
happy -go -lucky than myself and that's like

00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:12.960
what we want. So we want to like Tell people

00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.240
that it's not okay to bully that do you want

00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.220
to be in jail because what's gonna happen to

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.579
you? You know, we want to scare them a little

00:29:20.579 --> 00:29:24.700
bit The scare tactic for some, that's the last

00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:27.480
resort. First, it's no, it's not all right to

00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.799
bully. And then you keep on moving it up. I think

00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:34.980
what we need to do is what you said, maybe find

00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:39.299
kids if they're bullying. Say, sorry, no allowance,

00:29:39.579 --> 00:29:46.740
no privileges. Talking with your kids about bullying

00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:49.640
on a frequent basis. Say, you know, what's going

00:29:49.640 --> 00:30:00.619
on? There's all different kinds of abuse. Here's

00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:08.619
another question for you. Who else besides parents

00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:14.799
and kids do you think bully? Well, there are

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.829
teachers we need to deal with. teachers as well

00:30:17.829 --> 00:30:20.609
you got parents have to look out for teachers

00:30:20.609 --> 00:30:24.150
who bully computers themselves this little finger

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:28.369
that hits the internet button parents need to

00:30:28.369 --> 00:30:32.430
look up their their safety what i'm asking is

00:30:32.430 --> 00:30:35.210
i do think that there's other people who bully

00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:41.509
like could be sports players politicians amen

00:30:41.509 --> 00:30:47.119
yeah um There's powerful heroes out there that

00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:51.420
people, kids have to change their way of who

00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:55.160
they worship as a hero, like they're sports heroes

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.539
who start getting into these vicious smackdowns.

00:30:59.539 --> 00:31:01.519
And like, you're hearing a lot about domestic

00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.319
violence in the news about football players.

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.839
And politicians say horrible things. This is

00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.559
a horrible time of the year with politicians.

00:31:13.650 --> 00:31:17.009
Trying to win an election by saying this person's

00:31:17.009 --> 00:31:20.150
a liar, well, I don't pay attention, to be honest

00:31:20.150 --> 00:31:23.049
with you. Yeah, me neither, but let's not get

00:31:23.049 --> 00:31:26.650
into the politics. Yeah, that goes against trying

00:31:26.650 --> 00:31:31.250
to win an election. You know, I'm not into politics

00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:33.589
in that way. There's a difference between history

00:31:33.589 --> 00:31:37.849
and who we're going to have for this country

00:31:37.849 --> 00:31:42.369
is important, but because of this pandemic. i've

00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:48.529
become like almost like you know sick to the

00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:56.650
point where sounds and yelling um yeah and then

00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:01.130
you know so that's that's it but parents also

00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:05.809
like on the internet you can get people who are

00:32:05.809 --> 00:32:08.049
friends with them in school and then they go

00:32:08.049 --> 00:32:10.509
out and they talk with their friends and they

00:32:10.509 --> 00:32:14.210
say oh, look, didn't this person get heavy? And

00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:18.490
then they start posting on Facebook. And, you

00:32:18.490 --> 00:32:22.450
know, for people like us who are advocates, you

00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:27.009
know, for disabilities, we see that stuff and

00:32:27.009 --> 00:32:29.910
it kind of makes me sick because it makes you

00:32:29.910 --> 00:32:32.349
like, do I want to stay on Facebook? Isn't it

00:32:32.349 --> 00:32:34.930
really worth it? And then you have to keep fighting.

00:32:35.130 --> 00:32:36.750
And that's what makes us more passionate. I don't

00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:39.029
have Facebook on my phone anymore. I don't even

00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:41.940
have Instagram on my phone anymore. I don't have

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:49.359
any. I streamline them on my social media sharing

00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:54.519
apps all in one. Here's an interesting thing

00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.640
about bullying. Sometimes I'll watch Lifetime

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:02.059
and the criminal networks, not the ones that

00:33:02.059 --> 00:33:06.759
are a big joke, but 2020 had something about

00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:11.539
a girl who was telling her boyfriend. with this

00:33:11.539 --> 00:33:15.079
jealous anger, you know, she had depression.

00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.819
So therefore she got into this bully mood with

00:33:17.819 --> 00:33:20.799
her boyfriend and was saying, you know, she took

00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:25.579
advantage of this, this guy who was really bright

00:33:25.579 --> 00:33:28.240
and he had depression and all that. And she took

00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.099
advantage of her, a person, you know, she had

00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:33.920
depression. She wanted a partner like misery

00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.279
loves company. And she started bullying him and

00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.460
she got him to end his life by cyber bullying.

00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.720
and it made the news and at first you thought

00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.140
good they have they're friendly with each other

00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:51.180
and then I'm like oh my god wait a minute okay

00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:53.500
so at first I thought that she just had depression

00:33:53.500 --> 00:33:57.299
because that's the way it was but she started

00:33:57.299 --> 00:34:05.460
texting and so I was like confused because she

00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:08.719
was mentally ill but then it got worse then also

00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.510
like odd girl out. It was all about bullying

00:34:12.510 --> 00:34:17.070
and they so they were really close friends and

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:19.909
then the bullying got bad and then this clique

00:34:19.909 --> 00:34:26.369
like got worse at school so like thank god that

00:34:26.369 --> 00:34:30.710
when I came home from school that well you know

00:34:30.710 --> 00:34:32.929
I had my other friends but thank god that it

00:34:32.929 --> 00:34:36.130
ended there in school when I came to my nice

00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:39.110
comfy world of television and relaxation but

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.940
You know, I was born in 67. I had, like, 20 years

00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:48.699
of not really having the internet. But inside,

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.719
part of me loves navigating my world, picking

00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.340
up my tablet. But, like, you know, there's good

00:34:56.340 --> 00:34:59.320
ways to do it. And parents really need to, like,

00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:03.800
really get advocacy. Parents really need to be

00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.519
involved and teachers need to be involved. But,

00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:11.469
unfortunately, I mean, look. That's why, in a

00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:17.510
way, I think cyber school is better to a certain

00:35:17.510 --> 00:35:22.190
point. But, like, we need to make our schools

00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:30.230
safe again. But also, we need to teach kindness

00:35:30.230 --> 00:35:34.230
because then kids' domestic violence starts at

00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:37.599
16. have aggressions and they start beating up

00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.239
their girlfriends and controlling them, vice

00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.820
versa. You know, bullying is not just boys beating

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:49.980
up boys, it's girls beating up girls. Vice versa?

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:57.119
It's adults and other adults. I don't care once

00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.260
you're over 21, you're an adult. I really enjoyed

00:36:02.260 --> 00:36:08.400
your post about changing because People, it's

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:13.400
a start of bullying when people say to you that,

00:36:13.619 --> 00:36:22.139
like, I mean, it's okay to grow apart, but, like,

00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.420
it's hard because people tell you one thing,

00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:28.059
that you're your friend, but then they, like,

00:36:28.059 --> 00:36:30.940
change. So when you get bullied somewhere along

00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:33.559
the line, it's hard to move out of that. And,

00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:38.079
like, I don't know. It's hard. Somewhere along

00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.760
the line, I've learned. I became this strong

00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.519
person in the bully community where I know that

00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.340
I guess it's part of life. But somewhere along

00:36:49.340 --> 00:36:52.079
the line, there was trauma when I was bullied.

00:36:52.260 --> 00:37:00.519
And, you know, I got hurt. So I don't know how

00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.409
much, but I want people also to know. about elaborating

00:37:05.409 --> 00:37:10.070
that the thing that happened with me with domestic

00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:15.190
violence that the guy who bullied me was bullied

00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:18.710
as a child and then it started and his mother

00:37:18.710 --> 00:37:22.070
was making excuses well his father was mentally

00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:26.630
ill but like um you know again they're trying

00:37:26.630 --> 00:37:30.170
to let people off in jails because of mental

00:37:30.170 --> 00:37:34.030
illness and but i'm sorry but We can't go and

00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:36.889
medicate the whole society and therapy helps,

00:37:36.989 --> 00:37:40.570
but we need to talk about the consequences that

00:37:40.570 --> 00:37:43.230
you don't open fire and you don't take a knife

00:37:43.230 --> 00:37:47.170
out. And, you know, look now I have trouble with

00:37:47.170 --> 00:37:54.289
sounds outside and sirens. So it's the message

00:37:54.289 --> 00:37:56.730
that I'm also getting out is there is good in

00:37:56.730 --> 00:38:01.409
this world too. And bullying clouds the judgment

00:38:01.409 --> 00:38:04.460
of. Hey, is there really good in this world?

00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.199
But yeah, as an advocate, there is good in this

00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:13.679
world as well that maybe the two of us and other

00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.880
team members, you know, us two advocates and

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.159
friends should spread the word in conferences

00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.219
that bullying goes with autism, that today they're

00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:33.309
saying neurodiversity. It's a new movement saying

00:38:33.309 --> 00:38:37.909
that we're wired different somewhere along the

00:38:37.909 --> 00:38:44.250
line. You know, we're wired differently to take

00:38:44.250 --> 00:38:47.829
it in. And it doesn't feel nice to us. And if

00:38:47.829 --> 00:38:51.750
it doesn't feel good, to be said. Like, we've

00:38:51.750 --> 00:38:57.530
got to stop the spread of violence and suicide

00:38:57.530 --> 00:39:01.360
and bullying. Because, like... The rise in suicide

00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.360
attempts with kids today in middle school is

00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:10.840
going way up. Like, people were so upset. And

00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.760
everybody says it's getting better, but I'm starting

00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.619
to believe it's getting worse again. It's like

00:39:15.619 --> 00:39:18.039
it took a nosedive. Like, it was getting better

00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.500
in the 90s, and now it's going down because they're

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:24.099
using their finger. They think because, you know,

00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.300
like, one of the things I'm kind of getting mad,

00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:32.300
like, about Facebook. Like, people were writing

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:39.280
these messages, wear your mask. You know, they're

00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.019
sitting there blaming the president. And it's

00:39:43.019 --> 00:39:47.059
more than that. You know, nobody can do anything.

00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.619
Everybody has to do this together. And people

00:39:49.619 --> 00:39:52.079
have to stop with the bad, foul language. That's

00:39:52.079 --> 00:40:00.960
bullying right there. People have to stop. telling

00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.659
middle floors because they're different. That

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:09.380
list could be a long list. Yeah, but you can

00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:12.440
tell that I'm passionate, right? Yeah. You're

00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.679
dealing with a person. I don't know. The whole

00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.760
idea was that I was bullied before I got attacked.

00:40:23.059 --> 00:40:26.659
And I don't know how you want to elaborate on

00:40:26.659 --> 00:40:32.369
it. Haven't we just noticed people haven't watched

00:40:32.369 --> 00:40:35.849
your movie? Yeah. Yeah, we should talk about

00:40:35.849 --> 00:40:39.289
this. A lot of people had asked me questions.

00:40:39.590 --> 00:40:41.909
This is another thing. There's a lesson to be

00:40:41.909 --> 00:40:46.010
learned. Someone asked me questions like, how

00:40:46.010 --> 00:40:48.750
did you get this movie? And someone knew that

00:40:48.750 --> 00:40:53.050
I had traumas. And that was the main idea. And

00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:55.750
I fought back my whole life. And then I meet

00:40:55.750 --> 00:41:04.170
a guy again. you know, who was autistic. So here

00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:07.530
my first husband understood all about, you know,

00:41:07.530 --> 00:41:09.989
he didn't have all these special needs and then

00:41:09.989 --> 00:41:16.250
me and Scott both shared both being bullied and

00:41:16.250 --> 00:41:19.969
like both had concussions to the head more than

00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:24.190
one time and violence and nobody did anything

00:41:24.190 --> 00:41:27.519
in the schools. You know, and now there was lawsuits

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:32.659
because it takes a lot. So when I got attacked,

00:41:33.059 --> 00:41:42.079
I went full force on a lawsuit. And so I recommend

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:46.780
that if you want to know that it showed, we talked

00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:49.800
about the attack and we showed the 911 call that.

00:41:50.329 --> 00:41:53.369
um people wondered why we put this and someone

00:41:53.369 --> 00:41:56.250
said no this is not a person who's just getting

00:41:56.250 --> 00:41:59.510
sympathy that i want people to know that like

00:41:59.510 --> 00:42:04.250
i'd like to uh say something real quick there

00:42:04.250 --> 00:42:09.070
uh like i used to get uh for those people who

00:42:09.070 --> 00:42:13.000
follow me on social media i and probably read

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.519
my blog post crazyfitnessguy .com I have spinal

00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.219
stenosis and for those who already know that

00:42:22.219 --> 00:42:26.920
I'm not going to really go over what it is at

00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:31.199
the moment because it's just it's kind of wordy

00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.539
and I don't know if I can really explain it today

00:42:33.539 --> 00:42:38.800
but anyway I got hit on the back of my neck in

00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:42.239
middle school Was this because you were bullied?

00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.440
Yeah, the bullies did that, and they didn't know

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.340
that I had spinal stenosis, but I went to the

00:42:49.340 --> 00:42:52.800
principal. It took him 100 times to finally get

00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.900
how severe it was, and if they hit me in the

00:42:55.900 --> 00:43:00.260
wrong way in the neck, I mean, even just super

00:43:00.260 --> 00:43:03.579
hard, or if I got in a really bad car accident,

00:43:03.619 --> 00:43:07.980
I could be paralyzed for life. I think if I remember

00:43:07.980 --> 00:43:11.980
correctly, I think my parents were going to sue

00:43:11.980 --> 00:43:14.380
the school if they didn't start doing something

00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:18.500
about it. Is that why you wanted to transfer

00:43:18.500 --> 00:43:20.900
out? You were telling me that you wanted to transfer

00:43:20.900 --> 00:43:25.579
out? I never got to transfer out, but I waited

00:43:25.579 --> 00:43:32.900
for... I basically... I still put up with the

00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:37.079
bullies in high school until I stood up to them

00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.880
in high school. That's good. That's awesome.

00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:49.079
Another thing is with, you talked about a hundred

00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.500
times. I had the same thing. I was with this

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:54.539
one teacher who took about the same amount of

00:43:54.539 --> 00:43:56.940
time and they were bullying me in class right

00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:01.309
under her nose until we went to it. we went to

00:44:01.309 --> 00:44:04.170
a psychiatrist and they said, you know what?

00:44:04.250 --> 00:44:07.929
The psychiatrist and the principal both said

00:44:07.929 --> 00:44:10.969
the same thing. Get a mini tape recorder and

00:44:10.969 --> 00:44:15.449
we have your permission. Go and use a tape recorder

00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:23.849
and stay very calm. And, you know, like if you

00:44:23.849 --> 00:44:27.429
have proof. And so every day, and some days were

00:44:27.429 --> 00:44:31.940
good days and like, I just had to act as natural

00:44:31.940 --> 00:44:35.719
as possible. So we staged like the tape recorder

00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.780
a certain way that it wasn't, you know, they

00:44:37.780 --> 00:44:40.659
taught me. We had many practice sessions, you

00:44:40.659 --> 00:44:43.320
know, me and my mom and dad about like how to

00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.219
get this because we didn't want to blackmail

00:44:45.219 --> 00:44:48.980
everybody. So we got information and we talked

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:51.719
to the school. So it wasn't a blackmail scheme.

00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:56.659
And then we got the information. We got me, you

00:44:56.659 --> 00:45:01.039
know, screaming. And we... did so good that we

00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:06.159
actually got me having a meltdown, you know,

00:45:06.179 --> 00:45:09.380
because, you know, there were things going on.

00:45:09.460 --> 00:45:13.880
I had bruises and I had ribs broken. It, what

00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.440
happened was, you know, it took me to have bruises

00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.119
underneath my rib the first time. And then, you

00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.780
know, I was banged into lockers a lot by these

00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:25.579
people and they were in special ed for behavior

00:45:25.579 --> 00:45:30.480
issues. They finally got suspended. See, parents,

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.320
there's a lot of things you can do to get rid

00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:41.739
of the old, to stop the bullying from yours until

00:45:41.739 --> 00:45:45.880
you, and it's like, you can take this, you can

00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.260
tweet this, go on social media, you can get their

00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:52.860
attention so many different ways. Back then.

00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.380
There are so many ads these days wherever you

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:02.000
go. There are ads in movie theaters, on TV, on

00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.039
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00:46:35.789 --> 00:46:50.019
get back to the show. Just because you pay the

00:46:50.019 --> 00:46:54.219
school's taxes doesn't mean you have to just

00:46:54.219 --> 00:46:58.000
take their word for everything. It's gone smoothly

00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:04.619
at school. Yes. Not only that, with adults, like

00:47:04.619 --> 00:47:12.360
I grew up bullied from a really young age and

00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.760
I didn't even know. In the beginning, it was

00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:18.610
like Who cares? And now it's like baby steps

00:47:18.610 --> 00:47:22.590
to try to change my brain over to say, you know,

00:47:22.610 --> 00:47:25.489
I can't focus on, you know, this whole week I've

00:47:25.489 --> 00:47:29.150
been focusing on like trying to get out of it.

00:47:29.349 --> 00:47:33.289
But I've been trying to focus my brain again

00:47:33.289 --> 00:47:36.949
on like, you know, bullying is going to be out

00:47:36.949 --> 00:47:39.690
there. I think that we can try to do better.

00:47:39.969 --> 00:47:44.550
But like. I think social media should come up

00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:47.849
with some sort of way, and they do have tools

00:47:47.849 --> 00:47:51.889
to block people who are saying nasty stuff, but

00:47:51.889 --> 00:47:53.989
what if they come up with like a filter kind

00:47:53.989 --> 00:47:59.210
of system that, oh, yeah, you can't, where I

00:47:59.210 --> 00:48:01.349
just integrate in the system, you can't say anything

00:48:01.349 --> 00:48:04.590
hateful. You can point that to a company where

00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:07.690
somebody is, that company is doing something

00:48:07.690 --> 00:48:14.869
wrong or they're not taking, taking, what's the

00:48:14.869 --> 00:48:22.769
word I'm looking for? Taking, I don't know whatever

00:48:22.769 --> 00:48:26.610
the word I'm looking for, but responsibility.

00:48:28.210 --> 00:48:31.809
Right. It's not only responsibility, but like,

00:48:31.809 --> 00:48:35.590
for example, as I'm sitting here talking with

00:48:35.590 --> 00:48:39.079
you, And, you know, I don't know you. I can only

00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.960
imagine because I went through it too. I wish

00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.340
I could go back in time to tell these bullies

00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:51.239
off because I'm so different now. Like, a lot

00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:54.960
of the friends that I had in high school, like,

00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:57.599
I found myself sometimes wanting to disappear

00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.619
from a lot of things. I was on the drama club,

00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.280
but that wasn't necessarily to make friends.

00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.690
It was because I was good at it. And I found

00:49:08.690 --> 00:49:12.190
myself making friends, but, like, not trusting

00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:18.070
people. And, you know, little things have happened,

00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:23.570
like, that aren't really, some of them are bullying

00:49:23.570 --> 00:49:29.750
and some of them are not. But, for example, several

00:49:29.750 --> 00:49:33.429
people since this pandemic changed on me. Like,

00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:36.860
I don't think like them. And I don't change like

00:49:36.860 --> 00:49:40.099
them. So your post hit home the other day about

00:49:40.099 --> 00:49:43.599
a lot of people want us to think the same way.

00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.739
Like, in a way, I do think like everybody else

00:49:48.739 --> 00:49:51.599
with thoughts and feelings. And I get sad and

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.519
I get happy. But so many people want it to change

00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.500
me that I get really mad. And consider yourself

00:49:57.500 --> 00:50:00.480
lucky because you're a nice guy. And I have anxiety

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.230
attacks on people that I like. but when there's

00:50:04.230 --> 00:50:08.449
people that are mean I shut down and I get really

00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:13.289
like silent and then I'll go through a stage

00:50:13.289 --> 00:50:17.769
where I like want to cry and my thinking is it

00:50:17.769 --> 00:50:21.269
gets very unhealthy like this black and white

00:50:21.269 --> 00:50:23.929
and this is what I'm trying to tell people like

00:50:23.929 --> 00:50:27.869
that we want to prevent the way that I feel because

00:50:27.869 --> 00:50:34.739
like You know, like, there's people that think

00:50:34.739 --> 00:50:38.420
that tough love is the way to go. And a lot of

00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:42.119
times, if you're trained how to do tough love,

00:50:42.260 --> 00:50:46.360
that's bullying right there. Like, I've known

00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:52.039
people to say, like, manipulate you into thinking

00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.119
that you're the one that does bad. And they come

00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.619
off, like, kind of narcissistic in a way. Yeah.

00:50:59.630 --> 00:51:02.929
i'm thinking is better than you um and they claim

00:51:02.929 --> 00:51:05.449
it's tough love and that's what i'm talking about

00:51:05.449 --> 00:51:08.969
you know there's and then little minor things

00:51:08.969 --> 00:51:13.170
like um well you know if you eat that candy bar

00:51:13.170 --> 00:51:16.010
you know you might gain weight well it's like

00:51:16.010 --> 00:51:21.010
so what okay it's those are minor issues but

00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:26.199
um i've heard stories that It could be a lot

00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:31.380
of stories. Yeah, well, I think Dr. Phil, for

00:51:31.380 --> 00:51:35.699
example, I hope he's listening. Dr. Phil is a

00:51:35.699 --> 00:51:40.380
hero in my eyes because he always says to these

00:51:40.380 --> 00:51:45.579
people who are the bulliers, he always says,

00:51:45.699 --> 00:51:49.340
did somebody bully you? And he's like, yeah,

00:51:49.380 --> 00:51:52.389
well, my dad did. and the ones that admit that

00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:54.309
they're wrong and want to change their ways,

00:51:54.570 --> 00:51:57.789
then that's what I'm saying. Then they can be

00:51:57.789 --> 00:51:59.590
helped. But there's a lot of people that come

00:51:59.590 --> 00:52:02.150
out and they believe that they have to be yelled

00:52:02.150 --> 00:52:05.489
at and they won't say they're sorry. And that's

00:52:05.489 --> 00:52:10.190
what I'm talking about. So like... Yeah. So before

00:52:10.190 --> 00:52:15.510
we wrap up, where can people follow you on social

00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:20.019
media? Where can they follow me? Well, you know,

00:52:20.019 --> 00:52:23.079
I have my Facebook. I'm under Dina Susan Bino.

00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:29.019
I have our page, which is Autism Speakers. And

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:34.320
I have Instagram, you know, Dina Susan Bino.

00:52:34.460 --> 00:52:37.900
And the Twitter is Dina Bino. You know where

00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:40.260
I am, right? Or is it the other way around? Is

00:52:40.260 --> 00:52:42.679
it Instagram Dina Bino and Twitter Dina Susan

00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:47.139
Bino? So I have my Twitter. You can follow me

00:52:47.139 --> 00:52:51.210
on Twitter and Insta. Graham and um you know

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