Episodes

June 5, 2024

#46 - On Being Single, Gay, and Christian: Hot Takes from Greg Coles

Coming right up, some hot takes from Greg Coles on: * Why would you call yourself gay if you’re a Christian? That’s not your identity… * Wouldn’t it be better if you got married (to someone of the opposite sex)? * How do I t…
May 15, 2024

#45 - Celibate, Yet Side A: Tim Otto on Christian Unity and Gay Marriage

Tim Otto is a man of intentional commitments: he lives in intentional Christian community; he pastors a church in San Francisco; he’s also gay and celibate, while still affirming gay marriage (Side A). Tim talked with co-hos…
April 24, 2024

#44 - On Finding and Bringing Hope, with Nate Collins from Revoice

Nate Collins has been part of the Christian conversation around faith and sexuality for decades. He founded Revoice, a conference and ministry for queer/same-sex-attracted Christians, and he’s written two books on the topic.…
April 3, 2024

#43 - Common Life, Common Good: Jake Meador

How do we build communities of collaboration and care? Are our communities in the West in crisis? What are the “common objects of love” that we share, and how do we—average Christians who care—seek those out and build on the…
March 13, 2024

#42 - Our Food Is Your Food: An Ode to Common Pantry, with Hannah Hiler

Let’s talk about common pantry, ya’ll. Today we’re taking on the nitty gritty details of sharing food with people, usually those you live with. Why on earth does this even need to be talked about? Well, those of you in a “tr…
Feb. 21, 2024

#41 - Unexpected Shifts: Josh’s Story of Prayer, Healing, and Attraction

David’s friend Josh had a pretty radical experience of “healing”… Supernatural healing is always a complex topic, and with sexual attraction this continues to prove true. Does orientation change? Should we pray for it to cha…
Jan. 31, 2024

#40 - 3 Friends’ Journeys | Advocating for Christian LGBTQ Conversations

Schelli Cronk, Becky Hestness, and Kim Klayum work together at Transform MN, equipping Christian leaders across Minnesota to engage complex issues from a biblical perspective. They are also good friends who have personally a…
Jan. 10, 2024

#39 - Building Households and Communities Together: A Workshop with David and Elena (Recorded Live at Revoice 2023)

David Frank (you know him) and Elena (podcast manager) gave a workshop talk at Revoice 2023. It was pretty great, and also, predictably, hit-or-miss with sound quality. Enjoy! __________ Links and References The Life We’re L…
Dec. 20, 2023

#38 - Economics for Local Community with Joseph Pierce: Why Small Is Still Beautiful

Joseph Pearce’s book Small Is Still Beautiful is a compelling spotlight on the "well-kept secret" of economist E. F. Schumacher. David Frank and Brendan Johnson (from episode 30) talked with Joseph about small localism versu…
Nov. 29, 2023

#37 - Judge Daniel Quinan: The Telos of Sex and (Catholic) Marriage

Catholic canon lawyer Daniel Quinan works for the Catholic church, not the state legal system, reviewing marriage annullment cases for the Catholic Archdiocese. If you’re Catholic, maybe you’re familiar with this system. If …
Nov. 9, 2023

BONUS: Linden Hope's Songs for the Bees (Debut Album)

Linden Hope's debut album comes from her collection of songs processing through her own journey of faith and sexuality. Please contribute love to the "Bees" by supporting her kickstarter by November 21st. https://www.kicksta…
Nov. 8, 2023

#36 - A Mystical Vision for LGBTQ+ Discipleship with Eden Invitation

Anna Carter and Shannon Ochoa lead Eden Invitation, a Catholic Side B ministry for LGBTQ+ discipleship. TJ and David talked with them about their founding story, mystical theology, Pride Month, the opportunity and challenges…
Oct. 20, 2023

#35 - Marco Casanova on Integration, Healing, and Orientation

Marco Casanova is a Catholic leader of a ministry called Living Waters, helping people pursue healing, often around sexuality. TJ and David had a very engaging talk with Marco about his take on homosexuality/same-sex attract…
Sept. 27, 2023

#34 - Interview with a Longstanding Side B Ally, Misty Irons

Misty Irons has been part of the faith and sexuality conversation for over 20 years. We were honored to talk to her about her journey with Side B, being an ally to queer people, and what an “accommodationist” view of Side A …
Sept. 6, 2023

#33 - Asking Better Questions with Oriented to Love’s Kristyn Komarnicki

Kristyn Komarnicki started Oriented to Love 13 years ago, almost accidentally, in an effort to include the voices of gay people who weren’t present in Christian spaces that she was involved in. Since then, this program, unde…
Aug. 16, 2023

#32 - TJ Participated in an “Oriented to Love” Dialogue--Here Are His Thoughts

In the spring, TJ attended a small dialogue, Oriented to Love (OTL), sponsored by the Christians for Social Action. OTL hosts thoughtful conversations across difference, specifically among Christians, both queer and straight…
July 26, 2023

#31 - "You Keep Using that Word..." - Greg Coles & Erin Phelps on How Sexual Orientation Is Socially Constructed - Live at Revoice 2023

Hey there! We recorded an episode at Revoice 2023—a conference supporting Christians who are sexual minorities seeking to live out their faith according to a traditional, biblical sexual ethic. We loved doing this live episo…
July 5, 2023

#30 - Imagining the Commons with Brendan Johnson

If God calls us to seek the common good of our communities—what does that mean in real life? The commons , a shared community place or resource, is a critical idea in this conversation. Even better: it’s not just an idea; it…
June 14, 2023

Revoice LIVE: Culture & Contextualization w/ Greg Coles

Join us tomorrow (6/15) @3pm for a live recording at Revoice. We'll be exploring the nature of social construction, especially how that bears on the life of the Side B community. Come join David, TJ, & friends and be ready…
June 14, 2023

#29 - Weigh and Consider the World: Joel Carini on Nature, Truth, and Side B

We (TJ and David) first connected with philosopher Joel Carini from a few of his articles on a reformed theology of same-sex attraction. In this episode, Joel joined us for a conversation around various Christian contexts, n…
May 24, 2023

#28 - Ariel on Being a Friend to Side B

Ariel is a friend of this podcast and—more importantly—a friend to many humans, both queer and straight. We have seen her intuitive care and fierce kindness shine in her support of queer friends and family. We asked her to s…
May 11, 2023

Side B Bonfire Invite - Friday June 2nd

Are you in or around the Twin Cities? On June 2nd, we're co-hosting a Side B gathering with our friends from Eden Invitation (you'll hear more about them later this fall). Please email communionandshalom@gmail.com so we can …
May 3, 2023

#27 - A Wager Like Pascal's: Paul-Anthony Turner on Side A Sexuality

Paul-Anthony Turner is a gay Christian philosopher and pastor who used to be Side B (holding a traditional Christian sexual ethic of chastity in opposite-sex marriage or a celibate vocation) and is now Side A (affirming same…
April 12, 2023

#26 - Make Sides Not War: Why the “Sides” Framework Still Supports the Sexuality Conversation

Within Christian circles on the faith and sexuality, we (especially Side B people) spend a lot of time talking about different “sides” and where we stand. Some people think we shouldn’t even talk about sides at all. While th…