Anna Carter and Shannon Ochoa lead Eden Invitation, a Catholic Side B ministry for LGBTQ+ discipleship. TJ and David talked with them about their founding story, mystical theology, Pride Month, the opportunity and challenges of giant gray areas, theories of change, and so much more.
We love how intensely they pursue loving God and loving their communities well. Please join us for this delightful conversation. (And yes, the retreat they mention has already happened—but there’s always next year!)
About Our Guests:
As culture shifts, Eden Invitation believes the Church must be there to meet it. We are striving disciples with LGBTQ+ experiences, building community with others who desire a way of life in congruence with Christ and His Church. Through in-person events and online community, Eden Invitation creates space to receive the whole person, grow systems of mutual support, and empower for creative discipleship.
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Timestamps
(2:20) Introducing Anna and Shannon
(3:40) The beginnings of Eden Invitation
(7:32) EI distinctives: Stepping into the longing together in community
(15:54) Connections for non-queer people?
(20:18) Catholic tradition on disordered desires, celibacy traditions, gift of self
(33:44) Relating to Courage and Desert Streams
(35:41) "People just assumed we were only a women's ministry”
(39:06) The language question: "We try to let the air out of it"
(44:38) Healing or change of sexual orientation: How do you respond?
(54:41) Engaging gender discordance
(1:00:13) On Pride: "We're trying to protect people from the shrapnel”
(1:03:15) Developing the future, “gigantic gray areas”
(1:06:02) Hope and barriers in the Catholic conversation
(1:13:03) How to connect with Eden Invitation
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Links and References
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Credits
Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza
Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson (www.carlswensonmusic.com)
Podcast Manager: Elena