July 24, 2025

The Zombie Murders - "THE FINAL OBSTACLE: Seventeen Days from Murder to Marriage"

Show Notes
Transcript

Reid Carter reveals how Chad and Lori's final murder sealed their doom. October 19th: Tammy Daybell dies mysteriously, with Chad's eerily calm 911 call and rushed cremation destroying evidence. Just seventeen days later, the "grieving" widower marries Lori in a Hawaiian paradise ceremony. But their victory celebration becomes their downfall as families demand answers about missing children. When Rexburg police conduct a welfare check on JJ, Lori's lies unravel spectacularly - claiming he's with friends who say they haven't seen him in months. The couple flees overnight, triggering a national manhunt. February 2020: Lori's arrest in Hawaii ends their honeymoon as investigators close in on the horrific truth buried in Chad's backyard.

To become a premium subscriber (no ads and no feed drops) visit caloroga.com/plus. For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which seays UNINTERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. You also get 25+ other shows on the network ad-free! Go to Caloroga.com for all our shows!

Thanks to our sponsor https://www.booksamillion.com/p/Happiness-Experiment/Carl-B-Barney/9798886452891

Join the Celebrity Trials community on social media! We're building a passionate group of true crime enthusiasts who love diving deep into the most shocking cases in America.

Follow us on Facebook and Instagram by searching "Celebrity Trials Podcast" on either platform. You'll get exclusive behind-the-scenes content, breaking news updates on cases we're covering, and early alerts when new episodes drop. Our social media is where Reid Carter's hottest takes live, including reactions that don't make it into the show.

But more importantly, it's where YOU come in. Share your theories, debate the verdicts, and connect with fellow listeners who are just as obsessed with justice as you are. Did the jury get it right? What questions do you still have? Your comments and insights often shape future episodes.

We cover the trials that matter, but our community makes the conversation unforgettable. Come for Reid's signature cynical commentary, stay for the incredible discussions with thousands of true crime fans who get it.

WEBVTT

1
00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:11.199
Caaleroga Shark Media. Good morning, I'm read Carter, and welcome

2
00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:13.960
back to celebrity Trials. We've reached the point in the

3
00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:16.960
Valo day Bell saga where Chad and Laurie believed they

4
00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:20.879
were home free. Three people were dead, two children had vanished,

5
00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.559
and the couple thought they had committed the perfect crimes.

6
00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:27.719
Today we're exploring how their final murder, the elimination of

7
00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.079
Tammy day Bell, was supposed to complete their twisted plan,

8
00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.000
but instead became the beginning of their downfall. Because here's

9
00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.640
the thing about people who think they're untouchable. They get sloppy,

10
00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.200
they get over confident, they start making mistakes that reveal

11
00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:46.840
the very crimes they thought they'd covered up perfectly. Chad

12
00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.240
day Bell and Laurie Valo were about to learn that

13
00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.560
lesson the hard way. What unfolded between October twenty nineteen

14
00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.159
and February twenty twenty wasn't just the unraveling of a

15
00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.439
murder plot. It was a masterclass in how air, arrogance,

16
00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.920
and delusion can turn killers into their own worst enemies.

17
00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.120
Chad and Laurie had convinced themselves they were so spiritually enlightened,

18
00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:12.599
so divinely protected that they could murder five people and

19
00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:19.599
walk away without consequences. They were wrong. October nineteenth, twenty nineteen,

20
00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.760
started like any other day in the day Bell household

21
00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.920
in Salem, Idaho. Chad and Tammy had been married for

22
00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.879
nearly thirty years. They had five children together. To their

23
00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.319
neighbors and friends, they seemed like a stable religious couple

24
00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.879
living a quiet life in rural Idaho. But Chad had

25
00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.840
been planning Tammy's death for months, psychologically preparing her with

26
00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.920
stories about prophetic dreams while making practical arrangements for her

27
00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:49.480
elimination and disposal. That morning, Chad called nine one one

28
00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.159
to report that he had found his wife unresponsive in

29
00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.439
their bed. The nine one one call itself is chilling

30
00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.079
when you know what really happened. Chad sounds remarkably calm

31
00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.359
for someone who is suppers just discovered his wife's dead body.

32
00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:06.680
There's no panic, no desperation, no emotion in his voice.

33
00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.240
He sounds like a man reporting a minor inconvenience, not

34
00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.360
a devastating loss. Chad told paramedics that Tammy had been

35
00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.000
feeling ill the night before, complaining of fatigue and nausea.

36
00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.840
He said she had gone to bed early, and that

37
00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.639
he had found her cold and lifeless when he woke up.

38
00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.439
It all sounded plausible for a forty nine year old

39
00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.639
woman who might have suffered a heart attack or stroke

40
00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.439
in her sleep. But here's what made Tammy's death immediately

41
00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:36.879
suspicious to anyone paying attention Chad's behavior in the hours

42
00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.759
and days that followed. Within hours of Tammy's death, Chad

43
00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.719
was calling funeral homes to arrange for immediate cremation. He

44
00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.560
told anyone who would listen that Tammy had expressed a

45
00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.560
strong desire to be cremated, and that he wanted to

46
00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:54.240
honor her wishes as quickly as possible. There would be

47
00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:58.639
no viewing, no extended funeral service, no opportunity for family

48
00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.439
and friends to examine the box or asked questions. Most

49
00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:05.960
telling of all, Chad seemed more concerned with controlling the

50
00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:10.439
narrative around Tammy's death than actually mourning her loss. He

51
00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.039
immediately began calling family members and friends to explain how

52
00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.919
Tammy had been feeling sick, how her death wasn't really unexpected,

53
00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:21.479
how he had been having spiritual premonitions about losing her.

54
00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:26.039
The local coroner, influenced by Chad's explanations and the apparent

55
00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.159
lack of trauma to Tammy's body ruled her death as

56
00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:35.360
natural causes. No autopsy was performed. Tammy's body was cremated

57
00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:39.400
within days, destroying any physical evidence of how she actually died.

58
00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:45.360
But Tammy's family wasn't convinced. Her sister, Samantha Gilliam, would

59
00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.919
later testify that the family found Chad's behavior disturbing. He

60
00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:54.680
seemed too calm, too prepared, too ready with explanations for

61
00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.680
what should have been a shocking and unexpected loss. More

62
00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:02.479
suspicious was what happened next. Most widowers take months or

63
00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.919
even years to consider dating again after losing a spouse

64
00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.400
of three decades. Chad day Bell took seventeen days. November fifth,

65
00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.719
twenty nineteen, Chad day Bell and Laurie Valo were married

66
00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.040
in a small ceremony in Kawai, Hawaii, Seventeen days after

67
00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.759
burying his wife of nearly thirty years. Chad was honeymooning

68
00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:27.120
with his new bride in Paradise. The quick remarriage raised

69
00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:31.399
immediate red flags with both families. Tammy's relatives couldn't understand

70
00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.839
how Chad could move on so quickly from a woman

71
00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.680
he claimed to love deeply. They began to wonder if

72
00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.560
Chad had been having an affair before Tammy's death, and

73
00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:41.759
if that affair might have motivated him to want his

74
00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:47.399
wife gone. Meanwhile, Charles Vallow's family was equally disturbed. Kay

75
00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.920
and Larry Woodcock couldn't understand how Laurie could be celebrating

76
00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.040
a new marriage when her previous husband had been violently

77
00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.120
killed just four months earlier. They were also growing increasingly

78
00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:01.879
concerned about j J, whom they hadn't seen or spoken

79
00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.560
to since Charles's death. But Chad and Laurie were too

80
00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.720
busy celebrating to care about family concerns. Photos from their

81
00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.240
Hawaiian honeymoon show a couple who looked completely carefree, their smiling,

82
00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:19.279
laughing posing for romantic photos against tropical backdrops. There's no guilt,

83
00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.759
no remorse, no indication that they had just murdered multiple

84
00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.240
family members to be together. For Chad and Laurie, this

85
00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:31.480
wasn't just a honeymoon. It was a victory celebration. They

86
00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:35.720
had eliminated every obstacle to their relationship. They believed they

87
00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:39.279
had access to insurance money and social security benefits that

88
00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.399
would fund their new life. They thought they had committed

89
00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.839
the perfect crimes and gotten away with everything. But back

90
00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.560
in Idaho and Arizona, people were starting to ask uncomfortable questions.

91
00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.480
Where were JJ and Tylee? Why hadn't anyone seen them

92
00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.680
since September? Why couldn't Laurie provide current photos or contact

93
00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:02.279
information for the children. The Woodcock were particularly persistent, as

94
00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.319
JJ's grandparents, through Charles, they had legal standing to demand

95
00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.240
contact with their grandson. They had been trying to reach

96
00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.160
JJ since Charles's death, but Laurie kept making excuses. The

97
00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.839
boy was adjusting to his new school, he was too

98
00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.079
busy to talk, he was having behavioral issues related to

99
00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.399
his autism, and couldn't handle phone conversations. By late November,

100
00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:28.600
the Woodcocks were convinced something was seriously wrong. They contacted

101
00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.279
Rexburg Police and requested a welfare check on JJ. They

102
00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.639
explained that no one had seen or heard from the

103
00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.000
seven year old boy in months, despite multiple attempts to

104
00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:44.839
contact him. November twenty sixth, twenty nineteen, Rexburg police officers

105
00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.600
arrived at Laurie's townhouse to check on JJ's welfare. They

106
00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.519
found Laurie cooperative and seemingly unconcerned. She told officers that

107
00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.759
jj was staying with a family friend named Melanie Gibb

108
00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.959
in Arizona. She provided contact information for Melanie and assured

109
00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:04.519
police that JJ was safe and happy with his temporary caregiver.

110
00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.839
The officers had no reason to doubt Laurie's story. She

111
00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.120
seemed like a concerned mother who had made temporary arrangements

112
00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.800
for her son's care. She provided a reasonable explanation and

113
00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.279
contact information that could be verified. From their perspective, this

114
00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.639
looked like a routine welfare check that would be quickly resolved.

115
00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.879
But when police contacted Melanie Gibb, everything changed. Melanie told

116
00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.759
them that Jjay wasn't with her. She hadn't seen him

117
00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.920
in months. She had no idea where he was or

118
00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.399
why Laurie would tell police he was in her care.

119
00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.240
More disturbing, Melanie revealed that Laurie had asked her to

120
00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.000
lie to police about Jjy's whereabouts if anyone ever asked.

121
00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:50.120
Police immediately returned to Laurie's townhouse with more questions, but

122
00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.959
when they arrived the next morning, November twenty seventh, they

123
00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:58.360
found the house empty. Laurie had vanished overnight, taking any

124
00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:02.720
evidence of the children's whereabouts with her. The disappearance confirmed

125
00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.439
police suspicions that something was seriously wrong. A mother who

126
00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.920
had nothing to hide wouldn't flee when asked about her

127
00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:12.639
children's location. The welfare check had just become a missing

128
00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:20.680
person's investigation. December twentieth, twenty nineteen, after weeks of investigation,

129
00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:25.399
Rexburg Police officially declared JJ and entirely missing persons. They

130
00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:27.800
issued a press release asking for the public's help in

131
00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.439
locating the children and identifying Chad Dabell and Lori Valo

132
00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.320
as persons of interest in their disappearance. The announcement created

133
00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.600
a media sensation. The story of two missing children and

134
00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:44.679
their mother's mysterious behavior captured national attention. True crime podcasters,

135
00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:49.279
amateur investigators, and concerned citizens began following every development in

136
00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:53.080
the case. Police revealed that they had found no evidence

137
00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.919
that JJ and Tyley were alive or safe. School records

138
00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.799
showed that neither child had been enrolled in any educational

139
00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:04.000
pre since September. Medical records showed that JJ had missed

140
00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.519
all his autism therapy appointments. Social media accounts for both

141
00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.480
children had gone silent at the same time they disappeared.

142
00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.720
Most damning of all. Police revealed that Laurie had been

143
00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.399
lying about the children's whereabouts for months, giving different explanations

144
00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.039
to different people, and refusing to provide any proof that

145
00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:27.279
the children were safe. The media attention brought new witnesses

146
00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:31.320
forward with information about Chad and Laurie's strange behavior and

147
00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:36.240
religious beliefs. Former friends described their obsession with end Time's

148
00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.919
prophecies and their belief that certain people were zombies who

149
00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:44.480
needed to be eliminated. Family members revealed concerning conversations about

150
00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.559
rating people's spiritual darkness and preparing for the apocalypse, but

151
00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.720
Chad and Laurie remained confident they could weather the storm.

152
00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.519
They were still in Hawaii, still posting on social media,

153
00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.639
still acting like a couple on an extended vacation rather

154
00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.600
than suspects in a missing p person's case. Back in

155
00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:13.519
a moment, Welcome back to Celebrity Trials. I'm Red Carter,

156
00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.840
and we're following Chad Dabell and Laurie Valo as their

157
00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.559
perfect murder plot begins falling apart in real time. January

158
00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:25.559
twenty fifth, twenty twenty, Hawaiian police, working with Idaho authorities,

159
00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:28.480
tracked down Chad and Lourie to their resort in Kawhi.

160
00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.639
They served Laurie with a court order demanding that she

161
00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.440
produced JJ and Tyley within five days or face arrest

162
00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.799
for contempt of court. The court order was a brilliant

163
00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:42.159
legal maneuver. Rather than trying to prove that Chad and

164
00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.879
Laurie had harmed the children, authorities were simply demanding that

165
00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:50.240
Laurie exercised her basic parental obligation to ensure her children's

166
00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.600
safety and whereabouts. If the children were truly safe with

167
00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:57.399
friends or relatives, as Laurie claimed, producing them should be simple.

168
00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.120
But Laurie couldn't produce the children because they were dead

169
00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.559
and buried on Chad's property in Idaho. Instead, she hired

170
00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.279
a local attorney and began fighting the court order, claiming

171
00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.039
that the children were safe, but that revealing their location

172
00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:16.559
would put them in danger from unspecified threats. The legal

173
00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.679
maneuvering only made Chad and Laurie look more guilty. A

174
00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.159
mother who genuinely believed her children were in danger would

175
00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:27.440
want police protection, not court battles. A mother whose children

176
00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.480
were actually safe would be eager to prove it and

177
00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:37.039
end the media speculation about their whereabouts. January thirtieth, twenty twenty,

178
00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.639
the five day deadline passed without Laurie producing the children.

179
00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.240
She had officially defied a court order and was now

180
00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.720
subject to arrest for contempt. But authorities had discovered something

181
00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:54.200
even more damning during their investigation. Phone records showed that

182
00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.480
Chad and Laurie had been in constant communication in the

183
00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:02.080
days before each disappearance. Financial records revealed that both were

184
00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:06.159
benefiting from the Social Security payments and insurance policies of

185
00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:10.159
their dead and missing family members. Witness statements painted a

186
00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.919
picture of a couple obsessed with money, power, and eliminating

187
00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.720
anyone who stood in their way. Most importantly, investigators had

188
00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.320
identified the locations where they believed the children's bodies were buried.

189
00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:27.679
Ground penetrating radar and cadaver dogs had detected suspicious disturbances

190
00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.240
on Chad day Bell's property in Idaho. They were preparing

191
00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.519
search warrants that would finally uncover the physical evidence of

192
00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:41.240
Chad and Laurie's crimes. February twenty, twenty twenty, Lauri Valo

193
00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.480
was arrested in Hawaii on charges of desertion and non

194
00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.559
support of dependent children. The charges were relatively minor compared

195
00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:51.519
to what authorities suspected she had done, but they were

196
00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:55.320
enough to hold her while the investigation continued. Chad day

197
00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.759
Bell was not arrested at this time, but he was

198
00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:02.279
now the focus of intense scrutiny. Investigators were building cases

199
00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.919
for murder charges against both suspects, but they needed physical

200
00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.200
evidence to prove their theories. The arrest marked the end

201
00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:14.039
of Chad and Laurie's honeymoon period literally and figuratively. Their

202
00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:17.720
five months of freedom, celebration and confidence that they had

203
00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.960
gotten away with multiple murders were over. Now they would

204
00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:25.720
face the consequences of their actions, and the world would

205
00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:29.879
learn the full scope of their crimes. But even as

206
00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.840
Laurie sat in an Hawaiian jail cell awaiting extradition to Idaho,

207
00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:38.240
she maintained her innocence and her divine mission. In phone

208
00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.159
calls from jail, she continued to speak about her spiritual

209
00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.240
calling and her belief that she had done nothing wrong.

210
00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.600
She still believed she was a goddess chosen by God,

211
00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:51.960
even as the evidence mounted against her. Chad remained free,

212
00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.080
but under constant surveillance. He knew that investigators were closing

213
00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.320
in that search warrants for his property were imminent, and

214
00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:03.000
that the body buried in his backyard would soon be discovered.

215
00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.600
But he too maintained his delusion that he was divinely

216
00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:10.080
protected and that the truth would somehow vindicate his actions.

217
00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:14.399
Neither Chad nor Laurie seemed to understand that their perfect

218
00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.519
crimes were about to be exposed in the most horrific

219
00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:21.480
way possible. The children they had murdered and buried were

220
00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.159
about to speak from beyond the grave, providing the evidence

221
00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:29.679
that would send their killers to prison for life. Tomorrow,

222
00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:33.399
in our final episode, we'll explore the discovery that shocked

223
00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:38.159
even experienced investigators, the moment when authorities uncovered JJ and

224
00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:42.320
Tiley's remains and finally understood the full scope of Chad

225
00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.799
and Laurie's evil. We'll also examine the trials that brought

226
00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.919
justice for the victims and what this case reveals about

227
00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:54.200
family annihilation in America. This is read Carter with celebrity trials.

228
00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.200
The most dangerous delusion isn't believing you're chosen by God.

229
00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.039
It's believing that your divine calling places you above human

230
00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:06.759
law and basic morality. Chad Dabell and Laurie Valo were

231
00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.960
about to learn that even self proclaimed gods can't escape

232
00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:10.840
justice forever.