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Caalaroga Shark Media. Good morning, I'm Reed Carter, and welcome
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back to Celebrity Trials. Yesterday we explored how two privileged
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brothers from Beverly Hills became convicted killers. Today we're diving
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into something even stranger, how those same killers became TikTok heroes,
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Netflix stars, and possibly future free men. Because here's what's
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wild about the Menendez case. It won't stay in the past.
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Every generation rediscovers it and sees something different. In nineteen
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ninety six, when Lyle and Eric were sentenced to life
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without parole, that seemed like the end of the story.
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Two rich kids had murdered their parents for money, tried
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to blame it on abuse, and justice was served. Case closed.
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Except the case never really closed. It just waited for
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America to change its mind about male sexual abuse, waited
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for social media to turn true crime into entertainment, waited
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for new evidence to surface, and waited for a Los
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Angeles District attorney willing to take another look. On May thirteenth,
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twenty twenty five, just two months ago, Los Angeles County
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Superior Court Judge Michael Jessich did something that would have
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been unthinkable in nineteen ninety six, he resentenced the Menendez
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brothers to fifty years to life, making them immediately eligible
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for parole. After thirty five years behind bars, Lyle and
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Eric Menendez suddenly had what they'd given up on hope.
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But as I record this on Sunday, August third, twenty
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twenty five, Eric Menendez isn't preparing for his parole hearing
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in eighteen days. He's in a hospital bed with what
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his family describes as a serious medical condition. His attorney,
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Mark Geragos is pushing for an emergency medical furlough, and
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America is once again debating whether two admitted killers deserve freedom.
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Let me tell you how we got here, How two
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of America's most hated criminals became causes celebris, how Netflix
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and TikTok succeeded, where million dollar defense lawyers failed, and
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why the Menendez brothers might actually walk free before the
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year is out. After their convictions in nineteen ninety six,
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Lyle and Eric Menendez disappeared into the California prison system.
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They were sent to separate facilities, the California Department of
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Correction's way of preventing them from coordinating stories or causing
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trouble together for years, the brothers who'd done everything together,
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including murder, couldn't even speak to each other. But here's
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what's interesting about their time inside. By all accounts, they
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were model prisoners, not just well behaved, actually productive. Both
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earned college degrees, Both became peer counselors. Both got married,
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because yes, even convicted parent killers can find love through
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prison pen pal programs. Eric married Tammy Sackerman in nineteen
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ninety nine. She'd started writing him after watching the trials,
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and she's been his most vocal advocate ever since. Lyle
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married twice, first to Anna Erikson in nineteen ninety six,
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though she divorced him when she found out he was
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writing to other women. He married Rebecca Snead in two
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thousand and three, and before you ask, no, California doesn't
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allow conjugal visits for life without parole inmates, these marriages
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are about as physical as a zoom relationship. In twenty eighteen,
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after more than twenty years apart, the brothers were reunited
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at Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility in San Diego. Witnesses
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say they burst into tears when they saw each other.
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Here were two men in their late forties who'd spent
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more than half their lives in prison, hugging like the
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boys they'd been when they decided to kill their parents,
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and that image tu middle aged men who'd been boys
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when they committed their crime is crucial to understanding how
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public perception began to shift. In May twenty twenty three,
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something happened that would have seemed impossible during the original trials.
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New evidence supporting the brother's abuse claims surfaced, and it
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came from the most unexpected source. Roy Rosello, a former
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member of the Puerto Rican boy band Menudo, came forward
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in the Peacock docuseries Menudo plus Menendez Boys betrayed his
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allegation that Jose Menendez had drugged and raped him in
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the nineteen eighties when he was a teenager. Let me
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put this in context for you. Menudo was the bts
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of the nineteen eighties Latin music world. They were massive,
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and Jose Menendez, as an executive at RCA Records, had
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power over their careers. Rossello claims that Jose assaulted him
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in a New York hotel room, and that this wasn't
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an isolated incident with the band. Now one allegation from
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decades ago doesn't prove the Menendez brother were abused, but
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it does something crucial. It establishes that Hose Menendez may
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have been exactly the predator his sons claimed he was.
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It provides independent corroboration that the successful executive had a
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pattern of abusing young boys. But wait, there's more, because
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attorney Robert Rand, who's been investigating this case for decades,
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found something in twenty eighteen that could have changed everything
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if it had surfaced earlier. A letter allegedly written by
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Eric Menendez to his cousin Andy Cano months before the murders.
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The letter, which Rand says he found an addresser in
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Cano's bedroom, appears to show Eric discussing the abuse. The
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exact contents haven't been made fully public, but court documents
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indicate Eric wrote about the abuse getting worse than his
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fear of his father. Think about what this means. The
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prosecution's whole case rested partly on the idea that the
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abuse allegations were fabricated after the murders as a legal strategy.
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But if Eric was writing about abuse use months before
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he killed his parents, that destroys that narrative. It suggests
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The abuse claims weren't made up for trial, they were
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the ongoing reality the brothers were living with. Of Course,
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former DA Nathan Hawkman, who took office after these developments,
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isn't buying it. He's compiled a list of what he
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calls sixteen unacknowledged lies the brothers have told over the years.
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He points out that self defense claims don't work when
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you buy guns in advance and ambush your parents while
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they're watching TV. He's got a point, But here's what
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Hawkman is up against. Public opinion has shifted dramatically, and
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a lot of that shift has to do with how
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we consume true crime in twenty twenty five, back in
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a Moment. In September twenty twenty four, Ryan Murphy, the
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guy behind American Horror Story and Glee, released Monsters the
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Lyle and Eric Menendez Story on Netflix. It was the
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second season of his true crime anthology following the Jeffrey
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Dahmer series, and just like with Dahmer, Murphy's show turned
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a decade's old case into water cooler conversation. But Eric
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Menendez wasn't happy about it. In a statement released through
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his wife, he called out the show's horrible and blatant
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lies and accused Murphy of taking the case back to
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an era when the prosecution built a narrative on a
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belief system that males were not sexually abused. Here's what's fascinating.
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Eric's criticism of the show might have done more for
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his cause than the show itself. It reminded people that
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these weren't just characters in Ryan Murphy production. They were
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real people, still alive, still in prison, still maintaining their
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abuse claims after thirty five years. Then, in October twenty
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twenty four, Netflix doubled down with a documentary simply titled
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The Menendez Brothers. This one featured actual prison interviews with
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Lyle and Eric, no actors, no dramatization, just two middle
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aged men in prison uniforms telling their story. The timing
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couldn't have been better for the brothers or worse, depending
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on your perspective, because suddenly everyone was talking about the
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Menendez case again, and this time the conversation was very
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different than it had been in nineteen ninety six. TikTok
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exploded with Menendez content gen Z creators, most of whom
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weren't even born when the murders happened, started making videos
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defending the brothers. The hashtag Menendez brothers has billions of views.
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Young people who've grown up in an era of hashtag
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me too and greater awareness of male sexual abuse victims
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saw the case through completely different eyes than the nineteen
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nineties jury. The TikTok argument goes something like this, the
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brothers were abused children who killed their abusers. They've served
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thirty five years. Actual child molesters often get less time
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free them. It's simplified. Sure, it ignores the premeditation, the brutality,
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the lies, but it resonates with a generation that's more
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willing to see victims as complex and violence as sometimes understandable,
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if not justifiable. October twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Los
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Angeles District Attorney George Gascon dropped a bombshell. After reviewing
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the new evidence, the shifting cultural understanding of male sexual abuse,
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and the brother's exemplary behavior in prison, he was recommending resentencing.
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Gascon's reasoning was careful and political. He said, I don't
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believe that manslaughter would have been the appropriate charge given
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the premeditation that was involved, but he also added, I
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do believe that the brothers were subjected to a tremendous
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amount of dysfunction in the home and molestation. Translation, they're
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guilty of murder, but maybe not the kind of murder
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that requires life without parole. The reaction was immediate and predictable.
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Victims' rights advocates were furious. How could the DA recommend
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leniency for two men who'd admitted to shotgunning their parents,
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but supporters, including more than twenty Menendez family members, were ecstatic.
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Joan Vandermuhlen Kitty Menendez, his own sister, held a press
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conference saying, if Lyle and Eric's case was heard today,
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with the understanding we now have about abuse and PTSD,
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there is no doubt in my mind, their sentencing would
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have been very different. Think about that the murder victim's
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own sister was advocating for her killer's release. That's how
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much the narrative had shifted. But then came a plot
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twist worthy of Murphy's Show. In November twenty twenty four,
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Gascon lost his re election bid to Nathan Hakman, a
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former federal prosecutor who ran on a tough on crime platform.
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Hawkman made it clear he opposed the resentencing, calling the
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abuse claims fabricated and the brother's various explanations over the
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years lies. For a moment, it looked like the brother's
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hopes had died with Gascon's political career, but the legal
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process had already been set in motion, and on April eleventh,
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twenty twenty five, Judge Michael Jessex ruled that the resentencing
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could proceed despite Hawkman's objections. Then came May thirteenth, twenty
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twenty five, Judge Jesich resentenced to the brothers to fifty
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years to life. Because they committed their crimes when they
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were under twenty six, they immediately became eligible for parole
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after thirty five years. The Menendez brothers finally had a
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realistic path to freedom, but freedom isn't guaranteed. They still
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need to convince a parole board that they're no longer
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a threat to society, and that's where things get complicated.
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Back in a moment. As I speak to you on
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August third, twenty twenty five, Lyle and Eric Menendez are
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just eighteen days away from the most important hearings of
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their lives. On August twenty first and twenty second, they'll
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face the California parole Board. If they can convince the
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board they're rehabilitated, they could be free by fall. But
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Eric might not make it to that hearing. He's currently
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hospitalized with what his family describes as a serious medical condition.
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His attorney, Mark Geragos, the same guy who defended Michael
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Jackson and Chris Brown, is pushing for an emergency medical furlough.
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He wants Eric released immediately for medical treatment and to
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prepare for the parole hearing. It's a dramatic turn that
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even Ryan Murphy couldn't have scripted. After thirty five years
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in prison, Eric Menendez might get out not because of
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changing attitudes about abuse, not because of TikTok campaigns, but
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because he's too sick to stay inside. Meanwhile, Nathan Hashman
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isn't giving up. He's submitted a recent psychological evaluation that
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found the brothers at moderate risk of committing violence if released.
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He's compiled his list of sixteen lies to present to
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the parole board. He's fighting this release with everything he's got.
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But here's what Hawkman is really fighting, a cultural shift
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that's bigger than any one case. In nineteen ninety six,
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male sexual abuse victims were punchlines not sympathetic figures. The
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idea that boys could be raped by their fathers was
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something people didn't want to believe. The Menendez brothers were
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rich kids who killed for money. End of story. In
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twenty twenty five, we live in a different world. We've
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seen powerful men exposed as predators. We've learned that abuse
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victims don't always act the way we expect. We've recognized
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that trauma can make people do terrible things. The Menendez
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brothers haven't changed we have. Does that mean they should
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go free. That's for the parole board to decide. But
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I'll tell you this, if Eric and Lyle Menendez walk
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out of prison this year, it won't just be because
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of new evidence or good behavior. It'll be because America
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itself has changed its mind about who deserves sympathy and
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who deserves a second chance. You know what strikes me
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most about revisiting this case, It's not how much has changed,
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it's how the fundamental question remains the same. Do abuse
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victims who kill their abusers deserve mercy? And if so,
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how much. The Menendez brothers have now spent more time
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in prison than they spent free. They went in as
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young men and might come out as grandfathers. They've earned degrees,
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counseled other inmates, maintained marriages without physical contact by any
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measure except the one that matters most, bringing their parents back.
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They've been rehabilitated, But Jose and Kitty Menendez are still dead,
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still shot multiple times at close range by their own children.
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No amount of TikTok videos or Netflix documentaries changes that
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fundamental fact. What has changed is our capacity for nuance.
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In nineteen ninety six, you are either team prosecution their
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greedy killers or team defense their abuse victims. In twenty
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twenty five, most people acknowledge it can be both. They
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can be killers and victims. They can deserve punishment and mercy.
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They can be guilty and sympathetic. The parole board will
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have to weigh all of this, the exemplary prison records
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versus the brutal murders, the new evidence of Jose's predatory
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behavior versus the premeditated nature of the killings, the brother's
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youth at the time versus the decades they've already served.
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And they'll have to do it while one of the
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brothers fights for his life in a hospital bed, adding
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another layer of drama to a case that's never lacked
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for it. Here's my prediction. They're getting out. Not because
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they deserve it. That's a moral question I'm not qualified