Aug. 27, 2026
The Lindsay Clancy Jury Gets It Tomorrow, an FBI Psychiatrist Says the Voice Stopped When the Killing Did, the Bridegan Jury Is Out
The Commonwealth rested its case against Lindsay Clancy after FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit psychiatrist Dr. Gregory Saathoff testified he does not believe her account that a voice ordered her to kill her three children. Saathoff, who interviewed Clancy for roughly eleven hours, called it unusual that she reported never hearing a voice before or after that day, that she described it as constant rather than intermittent, and that it stopped once the killings were done: "Committing the act is not curative of the voice. I've not ever seen that." Under questioning from prosecutor Jennifer Sprague, he said the voice gave no instruction on where, how, or in what order — and that executing all of it without direction was surprising. Saathoff also testified financial pressure and a belief that her brain was damaged had left Clancy with a sense of being a burden. Clancy, 36, has pleaded not guilty to three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months, and argues she was not criminally responsible. Closing arguments are expected today, with deliberations likely Friday. Also: the jury in the Mario Fernandez Saldana murder-for-hire trial began deliberating Wednesday in the killing of Jared Bridegan. And in Las Vegas, Outlawz member Malcolm "E.D.I. Mean" Greenidge testified under a court order in the Duane Davis trial.
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Calaroga Shark Media. Good morning.
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This is Daily Crime and Justice from Calaroga Shark Media,
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powered by AI. I'm Garrett Fisher. It's Thursday, August 27th, 2026.
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The evidence is over in Plymouth. Five weeks, 21 days
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of testimony, more than 40 witnesses, and yesterday afternoon, the
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Commonwealth rested. Today, the lawyers argue. Judge Sullivan has told
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the jury that deliberations are unlikely to start before tomorrow,
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so 12 people will carry Lindsay Clancy's case into a weekend.
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In Jacksonville, a jury has had the Mario Fernandez-Saldana case
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since yesterday morning. As we recorded this, they were still out.
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If that verdict came in after we stopped recording, you
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have already heard about it, and we will have it
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in full tomorrow. And in Las Vegas, a man who
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called Tupac Shakur his big brother told a jury he
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did not want to be there and only showed up
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because a California court ordered him to. Then he described
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the last thing Tupac ever said to him. Let's get
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into it. On the evening of January 24th, 2023, Lindsay
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Clancy strangled her three children in the Cora was five,
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Dawson was three, Callan was eight months old. Clancy then
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attempted to take her own life and has been paralyzed
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ever since. She has pleaded not guilty to three counts
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of first-degree murder. She does not deny killing them. The
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question is criminal responsibility, and the burden is on the Commonwealth.
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The state saved its most credentialed witness for last, and
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I want to walk you through what he said, because
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it is the most specific attack anyone has made on
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the center of the defense case.
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Dr.
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Gregory Sethoff is a forensic psychiatrist at the University of
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Virginia and a senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis
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Unit at Quantico. He interviewed Lindsay Clancy for about 11
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hours across two sessions in May and June of this year.
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He told the jury he has treated thousands of patients
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with psychosis. And he started with a distinction that matters. Psychosis,
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he said, is not a disease. It is a symptom,
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a state produced by different underlying conditions. That framing does
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a lot of work for the prosecution because it turns
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the question from what does she have into what actually
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happened in that house. Then he took apart the voice
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piece by piece. Clancy has said she heard a male
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voice telling her that this was her last chance, that
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she had to kill her children and then kill herself.
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Satov called several features of that account unusual. First, she
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reported never hearing a voice before that day and never
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hearing one after. He found no record of her reporting
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voices to any medical provider in the months of treatment beforehand.
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A hallucination that arrives once in a person with no
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history of them and never returns. Second, she described the
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voice as constant rather than coming and going. Third, And
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this is the one that will end up in the
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closing argument. She told him the voice stopped once the
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children were dead. And Sathoff said he has never seen
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that in his career. Committing the act, he told the jury,
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is not curative of the voice. He said he has
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not ever seen that. Then he laid out the inconsistencies.
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Clancy told another psychiatrist the voice started as soon as
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her husband left the house. She told Sathoff it started
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right after her phone call with Patrick. Those are about
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20 minutes apart, and there is a smaller one that
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is somehow worse. Patrick Clancy has said the children were
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already eating chicken nuggets when he walked out the door.
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Lindsay Clancy has said she was still preparing the chicken
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nuggets when she heard the voice. Then on Wednesday morning,
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prosecutor Jennifer Sprague asked him one more question, and it
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was a good one. Did the voice tell her where
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to do it? Did it tell her how? Sathoff said
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it did not, and that he found that significant. A
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command hallucination that issues an order and no instructions. So
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that is the state's case, distilled. Not that Lindsay Clancy
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was well. That the specific story she tells about that
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specific evening does not behave the way psychosis behaves. And
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Sathoff offered the jury something else, which is the state's
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alternative explanation for why a mother would do this. He
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testified that Clancy had repeatedly delayed going back to work
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as a labor and delivery nurse because she did not
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feel mentally healthy enough to do it. He said she
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listed finances as a stressor in her own records. He
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said she believed her brain had been damaged, that she
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could no longer do the job she loved or help
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support her family. And what that left her with, in
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his account, was a sense of being a burden. That
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is a genuinely dark theory and you should understand what
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it is doing. The prosecution is not arguing Lindsay Clancy
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was fine and chose to kill her children out of malice.
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They are arguing something more uncomfortable. That a profoundly depressed
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woman who had decided she was worthless and wanted to
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die also decided her children should not be left behind
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without her.
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Depressed, suicidal, and responsible. Not psychotic.
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Because here's the thing that gets lost. Under Massachusetts law,
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being severely mentally ill does not get you an acquittal.
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Wanting to die does not get you an acquittal. The
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illness has to be the specific kind that took away
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your ability to know it was wrong, or your ability
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to stop. That is a much narrower door than most
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people assume. Now here is the defense answer, and Kevin
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Reddington did not waste time. He opened his cross by
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pointing out that Sathoff did not interview Clancy until more
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than three years after the children died.
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Three years.
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Then he went through the man's resume line by line
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and landed on this. Zathoff has written a lot about terrorism.
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He has not written much about postpartum depression. And that
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is the same move Reddington has run on every prosecution
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expert this week because it keeps working.
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He got Dr.
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Mack to admit he had testified on criminal responsibility maybe.
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Three times in his entire career. He got Dr.
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Heilbrun on his lack of experience actually treating postpartum psychosis.
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and now he has the FBI's man conceding his published
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work is mostly about a different subject entirely. Look, I'm
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going to be honest with you about what I think
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Reddington is building, because it is smarter than it looks.
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He is not trying to prove these three men are frauds.
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They obviously are not. He is trying to get 12
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people to a much smaller conclusion. That the Commonwealth's experts
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are generalists who came late, met her briefly, and are
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describing a condition none of them has spent a career inside.
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And if the jury lands there, the burden does the
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rest of the work for him. Because that is the
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whole thing. The Commonwealth has to prove criminal responsibility. Reddington
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does not have to prove postpartum psychosis. He has to
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make 12 people unsure. So step back and look at
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what this jury is actually holding. On one side, Dr.
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Philip Resnick, who testified for the defense in both Andrea
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Yates' trials, telling them Clancy was in a dream state,
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a puppet with someone else pulling the strings, that she
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genuinely believed she was doing her children a kindness by
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sending them somewhere better rather than leaving them behind without
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a mother. On the other, three prosecution experts, a psychiatrist
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who says major depressive episode, a psychologist who says parts
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of her account resemble fabricated hallucinations, and an FBI psychiatrist
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who says the voice does not behave like any voice
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he has encountered in thousands of patients. Somebody will tell
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you those cancel out. I do not think that is
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quite right. And here is why it matters. When a
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case turns entirely on competing experts, the side carrying the
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burden has the harder job. The Commonwealth does not need
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this jury to find the defense experts unconvincing. It needs
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them convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that a woman who
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strangled her three children and then went out a second
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story window was in full possession of the ability to
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stop herself. That is a lot to be sure about.
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So today, both sides argue. Then Sullivan instructs the jury.
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The 18 who have been sitting there since July get
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narrowed to 12 at random, and it goes to a room,
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most likely tomorrow. The standard is two-pronged, and the defense
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only needs one prong. Either she could not appreciate the
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wrongfulness of what she was doing, or she could not
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conform her conduct to the law. Could not know, or
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could not stop. Guilty of first-degree murder is life without parole.
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Not criminally responsible is a state psychiatric facility under a
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commitment that can be renewed for the rest of her life.
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And keep an eye on the charge conference, which happened
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after the jury went home yesterday, because that is where
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Sullivan decides what options actually appear on the verdict slip.
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Reddington has been pushing to get involuntary manslaughter on there,
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built on the theory that Clancy was overprescribed and that
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abruptly changing her medications altered her mind in a way
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she did not choose.
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If it makes the slip, this.
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Jury has somewhere to land when they cannot all agree.
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If it does not, they are choosing between a prison
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and a hospital with nothing in between. And that choice
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is where hung juries come from. Cora Clancy was five
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and in kindergarten. Dawson Clancy was three. Callan Clancy was
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eight months old. For five weeks, grown professionals have argued
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about diagnostic manuals and chicken nuggets and the exact minute
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a voice star Underneath all of it are three small
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people who are not coming back.
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Someone has to say their names.
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When we come back, a jury in Jacksonville is deciding
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whether a man who never went near that street is
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guilty of murder anyway. On the night of February 16th, 2022,
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Jared Breidigan dropped his twins, Abby and Liam, at their
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mother's house in Jacksonville Beach and drove toward home with
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his two-year-old daughter Bexley in the backseat. A tire was
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lying across a dark one-way street. He stopped, got out
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to move it, and was shot four times. Bexley was
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strapped into her car seat a few feet away. She
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was not hit. Jared Breidigan was 33, a senior design
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manager at Microsoft and a father of four. Mario Fernandez
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Saldana is the estranged husband of Bridegan's ex-wife. He is
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charged with first-degree murder and solicitation to commit a capital felony.
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He is pleaded not guilty, and he is presumed innocent.
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The jury got his case yesterday morning after Judge London
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Kite finished reading the instructions. And the shape of the
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end of this trial tells you a great deal. The
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state rested Monday. The defense then put on its entire
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case in about half a day. Two witnesses, both of
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them staffed from the private school the twins attended, who
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testified that Fernandez Saldana was an involved, friendly parent who
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came to events and picked the children up, that everyone
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knew the marriage was ending in 2022, and that he
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stopped being involved with those kids entirely after the murder.
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That is it. Two teachers.
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And Mario Fernandez Saldana did not take the stand. I
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said this yesterday and I will say it again because
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it matters. That is his absolute constitutional right. The jury
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will be instructed they cannot hold it against him. And
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it is very often the correct call. Putting your client
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on the stand in a circumstantial case hands the prosecution
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a chance to cross-examine the one person alive who can
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explain three checks. It is not evidence of anything. But
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it does tell you the strategy. The defense is not
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trying to win by explaining. They are trying to win
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by pointing at what is missing. Both sides closed Tuesday afternoon,
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and Kite gave them more time than he had allotted.
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The state's rebuttal ran until nearly 6 o'clock. Here is
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how each side ended. Assistant State Attorney Christina Stifler told
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the jury that Fernandez-Saldana is the thread connecting the whole tapestry,
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and that under Florida law, it does not matter that
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he did not pull the trigger. If the jury finds
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he encouraged, assisted, advised, or hired the gunman, He is
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as guilty as the man who fired. She told them
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their verdict will forever define the death of Jared Breidgen.
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James Hill told them the state had wholly failed to
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carry its burden and asked for not guilty on both counts.
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His case is the whole. No murder weapon ever anywhere.
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No DNA belonging to his client on anything tested. No surveillance,
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no fingerprints, no hair putting him in that truck or
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in Jacksonville Beach that night. The lead detective conceded every
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bit of that on the stand. And then Assistant State
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Attorney Alan Mizrahi stood up for rebuttal and made the
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argument that I suspect decides this case. He told the
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jury that the absence of physical evidence is not a hole.
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It is the point.
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That is why you hire somebody else. A man who
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pays another man to commit a murder is buying distance
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from the scene. And then the defense stands up and
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asks you to acquit him because he successfully bought it.
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He told them the law does not require certainty, that
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jurors are permitted and in fact required to use common sense,
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and that Fernandez Saldana is the only hub connecting Henry
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Tennant to Jared Breidgen. Tennant was his tenant. The tire
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matching the one in the road was found at his
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rental property. Dozens of phone contacts, a practice run down
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Breidgen's route, $ 10, 000 in checks afterward, one with a memo
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line reading Kickstarter, good luck. And then Mizrahi gave them
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the line, He said this defendant is not the unluckiest
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man on the face of the earth.
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