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Warning. This episode contains references to sexual situations that may
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be disturbing to some listeners. Please proceed with caution. Callarogus
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Shock Media. Good morning, I'm Read Carter, and welcome to
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Celebrity Trials on this Thursday, July tenth. Today we're diving
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into four verdicts that prove justice comes in all forms,
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sometimes shocking, sometimes satisfying, and sometimes leaving everyone asking how
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the hell did that happen. We've got a Connecticut teen
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who walked free after stabbing four people at a party,
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families at war over a killer's plea deal, a monster
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who thought dismemberment was the perfect crime, and a ten
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year mystery that finally found its ending. Let me start
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with the verdict that has Connecticut in absolute shock, because, folks,
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what happened in a Milford courtroom yesterday proves that sometimes
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self defense claims can overcome even the most damning evidence.
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The prep school killer walks free. Picture This Wednesday afternoon,
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July ninth, a Connecticut jury finds Raoul Valet not guilty
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of murder in the death of Fairfield Prep student James
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McGrath and assaults of three others. The twelve person jury
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returned the verdicts after two days of deliberations. Let me
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take you back to what should have been a slam
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dunk case for prosecutors. Valet, accused of murder in the
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fatal stabbing of James McGrath at a Shelton party in
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twenty twenty two, testified that he felt terrified and helpless
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as he was on the ground getting kicked and punched
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by a group of teens at a house party with
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a knife in his pocket. He said he took it
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out and began waving the knife in every direction, flailing
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his arms to try to get people to get off
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of him. But here's what makes this case so infuriating.
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Vale had stabbed Ryan Hines, puncturing his lung, as well
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as faise On Teelee in his arms and Thomas Tommy
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Connery in his leg four times, four people stabbed, one dead,
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and the jury said not guilty. The jury in the
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Raoul Valet trial was deadlocked on all charges, including the
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stabbing death of James McGrath and three others at a
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Shelton house party in twenty twenty two. After the judge
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ordered them to continue deliberating, the jury requested to listen
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to Vale's testimony again. The case started with teenage drama
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that escalated into deadly violence. Witnesses testified that what started
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as teenage tension exploded into an all out brawl. Valey
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pulled out a knife and stabbed four people in the scuffle.
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Three survived, James McGrath did not. The jury found Valet
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not guilty of murder and intentional manslaughter, but were hopelessly
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deadlocked on a lesser included reckless manslaughter charge. The jury
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also found Valet not guilty of intentional first degree assault
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in the stabbings of Ryan Hines and Thomas Connery, but
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were deadlocked on the charges of reckless first degree assault.
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As the verdicts were announced, McGrath's father, Kevin McGrath, sat
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still in the second row of the courtroom's gallery, a
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blank expression on his face. Outside the courthouse, Kevin McGrath
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said he was shocked, while commending the prosecutors who handled
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the case. Here's what bothers me most about this verdict.
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Vale admitted to just stabbing in every direction. That's not
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self defense, that's reckless endangerment that turned deadly. But the
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jury bought his story that he was overwhelmed and fighting
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for his life. The prosecution had video evidence, witness testimony,
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and Valet's own admissions, but Connecticut's self defense laws require
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that the force used be proportionate and that retreat be impossible. Apparently,
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the jury believed Vale couldn't retreat and had no choice
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but to start stabbing. James McGrath was seventeen years old,
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a fair Field Prep student with his whole life ahead
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of him, and yesterday his killer walked free because twelve
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people decided that bringing a knife to a fistfight was
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justified self defense. Now let me take you to Idaho,
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where Brian Coburger's guilty plea has torn victim families apart
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and raised serious questions about prosecutorial priorities. For thirty months,
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Brian Coburger and his defense attorneys insisted on his innocence
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in the fatal stabbings of four University of Idaho students.
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The remarkable change of plea hearing cements a deal that
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allows Coburger to avoid the death penalty by admitting guilt
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to charges of burglary and first degree murder in the
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killings of Ethan Chapin, Zana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogan.
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But this wasn't justice, it was legal convenience. Steve Goncalves,
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father of victim Kailee Goncalves, said, Idaho has failed. They
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failed me, They failed my whole fan The dad of
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twenty one year old victim Kailee Goncalves, blasted the move,
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accusing the prosecutors of mishandling and rushing the plea deal.
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Steve Goncalves set outside court that the prosecution made a
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deal with the devil, and later told ABC News he
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feels like he let his daughter down. The families are
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split down the middle. Chapin's and Mogen's families support the deal.
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We now embark on a new path. We embark on
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a path of hope and healing, Mogan's family said in
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a statement. But the Gonkalf's family is furious, and rightfully so.
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Kaylee Gonkalv's eighteen year old sister, Aubrey Gonkalv's said in
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a Facebook post that Brian Koberger facing a life in
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prison means he would still get to speak, form relationships
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and engage with the world. Meanwhile, our loved ones have
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been silenced forever. Here's what prosecutor Bill Thompson revealed about
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Coburger's planning, phone records that placed him near the victim's home,
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and an account of how he moved through the home
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on the night of the killings. Thompson also revealed that
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prosecutors still do not know whether Coburger entered the home
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with the intent of killing all four students. The evidence
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was overwhelming. The defendant has studied crime. He did a
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detailed paper on crime scene processing when he was working
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on his PhD, and he had that knowledge skill set.
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Several key questions were left unaddressed, including what drove Coburger
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to carry out the killings, why he targeted the students,
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and why two other roommates were spared. The families of
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the four victims, who have desperately awaited answers they believed
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would be revealed at trial, remained torn over the outcome
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of the deal. Steve Goncalve's is right to be furious.
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For nine hundred sixty two days, this monster insisted on
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his innocence. Then, when faced with a trial where the
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evidence would finally be laid bare, he took the coward's
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way out. No explanation, no apology, no answers for the
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families who've been waiting for justice. Prosecutors say they wanted
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to spare the families the trauma of a trial, but
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what they really did was spare themselves the work of
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a death penalty case and gave a quadruple murderer exactly
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what he wanted, life in prison instead of the execution
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he deserved. Now the Shawde Robinson case, on Friday, June sixth,
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a jury found Maxwell Andersen guilty on all counts, including
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first degree intentional homicide in the death and dismemberment of
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Shawde Robinson. The jury of nine women and three men
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found Andersen guilty of first degree intentional homicide, mutilating a corpse,
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hiding a corpse, and arson of property other than a building.
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This case shows what real justice looks like when prosecutors
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and investigators do their jobs right. The two met at
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Twisted Fishermen on April first, twenty twenty four. Footage from
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the restaurant shows them getting dinner and drinks. After that,
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phone records and video surveillance footage found they went to
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a bar in downtown Milwaukee and then later to Anderson's
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home on the city's south side, but what happened next
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reveals the true monster Anderson was. There were photos Anderson
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took of Robinson that show her incapacitated on Anderson's couch.
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She is face down, the prosecutor said about the photos.
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Her face is buried in his couch cushion. He has
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her breast exposed, and he is grabbing her, grabbing her
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right breast, the breast that would later be cut off
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of her body. It took the jurors less than an
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hour to reach its decision. Anderson is scheduled to be
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sentenced in August. Anderson did not testify during the trial.
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His defense team did not present any witnesses. During his
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closing argument, Anderson's defense attorney, Anthony Cotton, said his client
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had no intent to kill Robinson, but the evidence told
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a different story. According to the assistant and district attorney,
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authorities recovered photos from Anderson's phone that showed him groping
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Robinson as she lay face down on his couch. The
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prosecutor described the victim as incapacitated, saying she was not
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able to resist. The jury, made up of nine women
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and three men, deliberated for forty five minutes over two
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days before returning the verdict, Anderson is set to be
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sentenced on August fifteen. In Wisconsin, a conviction of first
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degree homicide carries a mandatory life sentence. Robinson's mother, Sheena Scarborough,
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said of the verdict, it's such a heavy weight. There's
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no such thing as justice. We don't have her. This
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is what happens when the system works. Thorough investigation, overwhelming evidence,
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and a jury that saw through a pathetic defense. Maxwell
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Anderson will spend the rest of his life in prison,
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which is exactly where he belongs. Back in a moment,
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welcome back to celebrity trials. I'm reed, Carter, and we're
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ending today with a case that proves sometimes justice takes
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a decade, but it's worth the wait. After a quick
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jury deliberation, Brooks Howk and Joseph Lawson were found guilty
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in the Crystal Rogers murder case on Tuesday morning. The
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jury recommended a sentence of life for Hawck and twenty
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five years for Lawson. For ten years, the people of Bardstown,
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Kentucky have been haunted by one question. What happened to
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Kristel Rogers? July third, twenty fifteen. Crystal Rogers last scene
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alive at Huck family farm with Brooks Huck. July fifth,
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twenty fifteen, Rogers car found on the side of the
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Bluegrass Parkway with a flat tire. Her keys, purse, and
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phone were still inside. Brooks Howk, Rogers's ex boyfriend, was
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originally charged with murder and tampering with physical evidence. Jurors
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convicted Howk on tampering and a different murder charge, murder
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principle or accomplice. Essentially, it means jurors found him guilty
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of murder but couldn't determine if he killed Rogers or
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played a role in her murder. Lawson was charged with
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conspiracy to commit murder and tampering with physical evidence. Jurors
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found him guilty on both charges. His father, Steve Lawson,
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was convicted on similar charges back in May. The evidence
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that convicted them was devastating. Evidence presented in court revealed
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that a hair similar to Crystal Rogers was found in
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the trunk. According to the prosecution, the car was spotted
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near the Hawk family farm the night Crystal Rogers vanished
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on July third, twenty fifteen. The prosecution's case relies on
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circumstantial evidence. They hoped jurors will recognize that Howck repeatedly
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lied about his whereabouts when Cristel disappeared, and that Howck
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and the Lawsons were communicating the night she vanished and
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into the early hours of July fourth. But the most
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powerful moment came during the penalty phase. Kylie Fenwick, Roger's
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second oldest daughter, testified during the penalty phase. I've waited
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a long time for this, Fenwick told jurors from the
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witness stand. I just want you all to be fair
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and go with what's in your heart. Jurors returned just
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five minutes later with a life sentence recommendation on the
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murder charge for Hawk and five years on tampering to
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be served consecutively. Joseph Lawson was recommended to receive twenty
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years on conspiracy and five years on tampering consecutively. Rogers's
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family returned home to Bardstown Tuesday evening to locals lining
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the streets dressed in pink, the young mother's favorite color. Crystal.
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Rogers's oldest daughter, Ashley Miller of Owensboro, was fourteen at
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the time her mother vanished. I remember riding in her
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car singing music to the top of our lungs, going
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to the pool and going to chuck e cheese all
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the time, Miller told reporters after the verdict. But here's
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what still haunts this case. Prosecutors maintained that Rogers was
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killed on the Hawk family farm, although her remains have
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never been discovered. Ten years later, Crystal Rogers is still missing.
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Her family has justice, but they don't have closure. Special
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Prosecutor Shane Young implored the jury to give the maximum
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sentence to Hawk and Lawson, arguing that Hawk engineered the
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conspiracy to gain custody of the young son he and
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Rogers shared, and that he paid fifty thousand dollars to
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Lawson to move Roger's car. They planned to kill her,
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get rid of her, and make it look like she
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just left. Young told jurors what connects these four cases
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is the stark reminder that justice isn't a math equation.
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It's a human process with all the flaws that entails.
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In Connecticut, a jury looked at a teenager who admitted
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to stabbing four people and decided he was the victim.
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That's not justice, that's jury nullification. Based on sympathy for
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a young defendant who cried the right tears at the
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right time. In Idaho, prosecutors traded the death penalty for
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legal convenience, leaving victim families split and a killer who
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gets to live while his victims don't. Sometimes the system
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protects itself more than it protects victims. In Milwaukee, detectives
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and prosecutors did everything right. They built an airtight case,
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presented overwhelming evidence, and secured justice for shot A. Robinson.
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That's how the system is supposed to work. And in Kentucky,
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ten years of patient investigation finally paid off Brooks Hawk
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thought he'd gotten away with the perfect crime. He was wrong.
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The truth has a way of surfacing even after a decade.
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These cases remind us that American justice is deeply imperfect.
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Sometimes the guilty walk free because juries by self defense
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claims that defy common sense. Sometimes victims' families are betrayed
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by pros secutors who prioritize efficiency over accountability. And sometimes,
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if we're lucky, the system works exactly as it should. Tomorrow,
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we'll dive deeper into the psychology of family annihilators and
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examine new developments in the shawan Comb sentencing, where oj
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Simpson's lawyer warns Diddy could face substantial prison time when
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he's sentenced on October third, exactly thirty years after the
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OJ verdict that changed everything. That's celebrity trials for today.
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I'm read Carter. Remember justice isn't always swift, and it's
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not always satisfying, but it's always riveting and sometimes just
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sometimes it's exactly what the victims deserved. See you tomorrow,