Oct. 9, 2025

"SANCHEZ FACES 16 YEARS, DIDDY BEGS TRUMP FOR PARDON & THE WOMAN WHO KEPT HER BOYFRIEND'S HEAD IN A BUCKET"

"SANCHEZ FACES 16 YEARS, DIDDY BEGS TRUMP FOR PARDON & THE WOMAN WHO KEPT HER BOYFRIEND'S HEAD IN A BUCKET"

Reid Carter covers Mark Sanchez's escalating nightmare: prosecutors reveal charges could be upgraded to Level 3 felony carrying sixteen years in prison, and FOX insiders confirm his broadcasting career is over. Diddy asks Trump for a presidential pardon while requesting New Jersey prison with drug treatment. Bionca Ellis trial witnesses describe her walking away from stabbing 3-year-old Julian Wood "like she was walking in the park" with a bloody knife and a smile. Plus Taylor Schabusiness returns to court after strangling her boyfriend during sex, decapitating him, dismembering his body, and leaving his head in a bucket for his mother to find.

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Callaroga Shark Media, Good morning, I'm read Carter. Thursday, October ninth,

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twenty twenty five. Today on Celebrity Trials, Mark Sanchez's parking

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space brawl just got significantly worse. Marion County Prosecutor Ryan

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Mears revealed charges could be upgraded from a level five

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to a level three felony that's sixteen years maximum. Fox

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insiders confirm what everyone already knew. His career is over.

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Diddy is asking President Trump for a pardon. Trump confirmed

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did he made the request, calling him puff Daddy, but

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wouldn't say if he'll grant it. Meanwhile, Ditty's lawyers want

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him sent to a New Jersey prison with a drug

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treatment program. In Cleveland, witnesses in the Baianka Ellis trial

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testified that after stabbing three year old Julian Wood to death,

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Ellis walked away calmly like she was walking in the

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park swinging the bloody knife. One witness said she had

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a smile on her face. And in Wisconsin, Taylor's shab

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business is back in court. The woman who strangled her

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boyfriend during sex, decapitated him, dismembered his body, performed necrophilia

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for hours, and left his head in a bucket for

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his mother to find. Is now facing new charges for

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attacking a prison guard with a metal tray. Welcome to Thursday,

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where parking disputes escalate to sixteen year sentences, convicted rappers

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beg presidents for pardons, and women who decapitate their lovers

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can't stop attacking people even in maximum security prison. This

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is celebrity trials. Mark Sanchez's legal problems are getting worse,

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much worse. Tuesday, Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears revealed to

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News Nation that Sanchez could face even more serious charges

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than the level five felony battery he's currently charged with.

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The charge could be upgraded to a level three felony

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if prosecutors can prove Perry Toll suffered permanent or protracted

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loss from his injuries. Level five felony carries one to

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six years. Level three felony carries three to sixteen years.

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That's the difference between a bad mistake and a life

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altering prison sentence. Mears explained, You're looking for a health

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care provider, a doctor in particular, to be able to

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provide that diagnosis and say what's the long term impact

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of these injuries and how is that going to impact

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the victim. So those are our conversations we'll have with

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the treating physicians, the doctors involved with this case that

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will help us make that ultimate charging decision. Prosecutors are

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waiting for doctors to confirm the extent of Perry Toll's injuries.

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We already know from his lawsuit that his speech has

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been affected, that his jaw is damaged, that his face

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is permanently disfigured, that he doesn't know if he'll be

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able to work again. Toll's attorney, Eric May, told reporters

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that Toll will require extensive medical care in the coming days, weeks,

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and months, that his mouth, jaw, and face functions have

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been affected. That this sixty nine year old man who

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worked his whole life collecting cooking oil might never be

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able to work again because a drunk NFL analyst threw

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him toward a dumpster over a parking space. If doctors

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determine those injuries constitute permanent or protracted loss, Sanchez's six

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year maximum becomes sixteen years maximum at thirty eight years old.

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That's the difference between getting out in his early forties

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versus his mid fifties and his career at Fox already over.

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A Fox insider told The Daily Mail that the incident

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is being viewed as a career ending event. Quote, he's

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already been told that he won't be on camera again,

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and we've made the moves to replace him. As long

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as there are serious charges pending, we really just can't

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have him on screen. The source continued. He has not

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yet been officially fired because that takes some legality, but

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that's where this is going. He has a morals clause

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in his contract like everyone else. This arrest violates that

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clause and it's a terminable offense. Sanchez joined Fox Sports

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in twenty twenty one after starting with ESPN in twenty nineteen.

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Three years at Fox over because of a parking space

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dispute at twelve thirty in the morning while drunk in

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an Indianapolis alley. His former Jets teammate Nick Mangold told

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The New York Post He's stunned. The Mark I know

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wouldn't do this. It's completely out of character. He doesn't

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have an aggressive bone in his body for something of

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this to happen. Something obviously wasn't right that night, and

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I hope they get to the bottom of it. Something

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wasn't right. Mark Sanchez was drunk, aggressive and decided to

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climb into a sixty nine year old man's truck and

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throw him around because of a parking space. What's complicated

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about that? Sanchez's brother, Nick, broke the family's silence Monday,

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telling TMZ, this has been a deeply distressing time for

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everyone involved. Mark and our family are incredibly grateful for

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the concern, love, and support we've received over the past

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few days. Mark remains under medical care for the serious

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injuries he sustained and is focused on his recovery as

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the legal process continues. His next court date is November fifth.

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By then, prosecutors will know whether they're upgrading to Level three,

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whether Mark Sanchez is facing six years or sixteen years

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for the dumbest decision of his life. Sean Ditty Combs

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wants two things. A presidential pardon from Donald Trump, and

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if he can't get that, a transfer to a nicer

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federal prison in New Jersey. Monday, Ditty's lawyers filed a

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letter with Judge Aaron Subramanian requesting he strongly recommend that

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the Bureau of Prisons place Comb's at FC y. Fort

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Dix a lie low security federal prison in New Jersey.

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The facility has a residential drug treatment program that his lawyer,

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Tenny Jerigo says will help Ditty address drug abuse issues

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and to maximize family visitation and rehabilitative efforts. Fort Dix

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is about sixty four miles southwest of New York City,

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where Ditty was born and built his empire. It's one

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of the largest federal prisons by population, with just under

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three thousand, nine hundred inmates. There's also an adjacent minimum

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security camp with two hundred ten inmates. It's been home

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to reputed mobsters, drug traffickers, corrupt politicians, and pharma bro

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Martin Screlly. It's also had its problems. In twenty twenty one,

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an inmate was stabbed in the eyeball by a fellow prisoner.

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In twenty nineteen, inmates were caught using drones to smuggle contraband,

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including cell phones, tobacco, and weight loss supplements. The same year,

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a correctional officer pleaded guilty to accepting bribes to smuggle

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in contraband. It's greyly ended up in solitary confinement for

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allegedly using a contraband smartphone to run his drug company

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from behind bars, so it's not exactly club fed, but

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it's better than MDC Brooklyn, where Didty has been locked

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up since his September twenty twenty four arrest. He's already

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served thirteen months there, which will be subtracted from his

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fifty month sentence, meaning he could be out in about

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three years. In a letter to the judge before sentencing,

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did He claimed he's gone through a spiritual reset in

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jail and is committed to the journey of remaining a

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drug free, non violent, and peaceful person. He wrote, I

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thank God that I'm stronger, wiser, clean, clear, and sober.

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The judge hasn't acted on the Fort Dick's request yet.

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Judges often make recommendations about where inmates serve time, but

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it's ultimately up to the Bureau of Prisons. They consider

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factors including severity of offense, required, security level, and programming needs.

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But here's the bigger story. On Monday, President Donald Trump

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confirmed that Ditty asked him for a pardon. Trump, referring

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to Ditty as puff Daddy, told reporters about the request,

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but didn't say if he'd granted. Think about that timeline.

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Ditty was sentenced Friday. By Monday, he's already asked Trump

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for a pardon. That's not someone who's accepted responsibility and

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wants to serve his time for rehabilitation. That's someone looking

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for an escape hatch before he's even been transferred to

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permanent custody. Trump pardoning Ditty would be politically toxic. Didty

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was convicted of transporting women across state lines for prostitution.

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The trial featured testimony about violence, drugs, and freak offs.

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There's video of him beating Cassie Ventura in a hotel hallway.

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His victims live in fear of his release. Would Trump

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pardon that he's pardoned controversial people before, but Ditty, with

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video evidence of him beating women with victims terrified of

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his event, will release. That's a pardon that would follow

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Trump forever. But Trump also makes unpredictable decisions, and Diddy

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has connections, money, and apparently the ability to get messages

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to the president. So we'll see if the Bad Boy

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founder becomes another name on Trump's pardon list. For now,

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Diddy sits in MDC, Brooklyn, waiting to hear if he'll

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be sent to Fort Dix, waiting to hear if Trump

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will save him from serving any time at all, and

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probably wondering how he went from running a hip hop

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empire to begging for presidential pardons. Update from Cleveland on

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the Bianca Ellis trial, where witnesses testified Tuesday about the

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moment she stabbed three year old Julian Wood to death

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outside a Giant Eagle grocery store. Opening statements happened Monday.

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The prosecution laid out their case. Ellis went to Volunteers

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of America Thrift store, spent several minutes sifting through knives,

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selected two, tested them by hitting them against concrete pillars

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to check the pliability, then walk next door to Giant Eagle.

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Surveillance footage shows Ellis entering the grocery store without talking

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to anyone. She spots Margo Wood pushing her three year

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old son Julian in a shopping cart, follows them through

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the store, follows them out to the parking lot, then attacks.

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Prosecutor Anna Farraglia told the jury Ellis stabs Julian in

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the face with a twelve inch butcher knife. When Margo

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tried to fight Ellis off, Ellis stabbed Margo too. Then

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Ellis took the knife and stabbed Julian in the back.

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The defense doesn't deny Ellis killed Julian. Her attorney, Fernando

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Mack told the jury she acknowledges through her lawyers, whether

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she testifies or not, that she's responsible for the murder

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of Julian. She acknowledges through her lawyers that she's responsible

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for the attempted murder of Margo. There's no running away

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from that. That's not what this trial is about. The

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evidence will show, though, that it is obvious she was

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insane at the time of the events. Tuesday, eleven witnesses testified,

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and their testimony painted a horrifying picture of both the

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attack and Ellis's demeanor. Afterward. Matthew Stroud was shopping at

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Giant Eagle with his wife. He testified, I saw a

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woman stabbing a mother and child. I saw the knife

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covered in blood. I saw violent motions toward a mother

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and her child. Then he watched Ellis leave. His testimony

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about that is chilling. Ellis walked away like she was

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walking in the park, not running, not panicking, just casually

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walking away with a bloody knife, like she'd just finished

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a pleasant stroll. Stroud and his wife followed Ellis at

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a distance until police arrived. His wife called nine one

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one while he warned others in the parking lot and

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tracked the woman who just murdered a toddler. Griffin Shop,

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a Giant Eagle employee, was on his lunch break in

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his girlfriend's car when they heard screaming. It was the

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first person to reach Margot and Julian after the attack.

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He testified, I saw a woman on the ground holding

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a child covered in blood. Two nurses who happened to

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be in the parking lot ran to help. Cheryl Mulaski,

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a registered nurse, testified, I immediately took the child that

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I saw in her arms and laid him down on

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the ground, assessed him, yelled for help for e MS

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someone to call, and I started CPR. Rachel Craven, a

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pediatric ICU nurse, took over chest compressions. They tried desperately

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to save Julian's life while his mother watched, stabbed and

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bleeding herself. Body worn camera footage shown to the jury

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captured e M s working to save the three year old.

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They couldn't. Julian died from his injuries. But here's what

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makes this even more disturbing. Multiple witnesses described Ellis's demeanor

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as she walked away from murdering a child. One witness

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said she looked nonchalant. Another said she looked like she

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was walking in the park. One witness even said she

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had a smile on her face, a smile after stabbing

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a three year old to death after stabbing his mother,

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walking away casually with the bloody knife, swinging it smiling.

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North Olmsted Police detective Manuel Roman testified that surveillance video

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showed less than ten minutes elapse between when Ellis walked

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into the thrift store and when she followed Margot and

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Julian into the parking lot, ten minutes from selecting knives

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to murdering a child. Officer Danielle Shook testified about encountering

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Ellis earlier that day at the police station. Ellis had

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been released from custody and came to the station asking

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about cash she believed hadn't been returned to her. She

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was upset when told the jail had no other property

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in her name, so Ellis left the police station. Upset,

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went directly to a thrift store stole knives, walked to

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a grocery store, found a random mother and child, and

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stabbed them all Within hours. North Olmsted police officer Oliver

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Wolcott testified about apprehending Ellis. He arrived within two minutes

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of the call. Dashboard camera footage shown to jurors captured

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him approaching Ellis with his firearm drawn, ordering her to

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the ground. She tossed the knife out to her side

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and complied without speaking. The trial continues today with more witnesses.

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The prosecution will call the medical examiner and mental health professionals.

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The defense will try to prove Ellis was insane at

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the time of the attack, that her schizophrenia made her

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unable to understand right from wrong, But the prosecution has

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surveillance footage showing Ellis selecting knives, testing them, following victims, attacking,

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and walking away calmly afterward. That's not someone who doesn't

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understand reality. That's someone who understands exactly what they're doing

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and doesn't care. Julian Wood was three years old. His

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mother tried to save him and couldn't. Nurses tried to

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save him and couldn't. He died because Bianca Ellis decided

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a random toddler in a grocery store parking lot deserved

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to die. The defense says she was insane. The witnesses

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say she was smiling. The jury will decide which story

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explains why a three year old is dead. We'll be

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right back with Taylor's shab Business. The woman who left

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her boyfriend's head in a bucket and is back in

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court for attacking a prison guard to Wisconsin, where Taylor's

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shab business is back in court today for a final

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hearing before her battery trial. If that name sounds familiar,

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it's because shab Business is already serving life in prison

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without parole for one of the most horrific murders in

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recent American history. Let me tell you about Taylor's shab

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business and warning this case is extremely graphic. If you

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need to skip ahead, I understand. February twenty first, twenty

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twenty two, Green Bay, Wisconsin. Taylor's Shabbuziness, then twenty four

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years old, picked up her boyfriend, twenty four year old

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Shad Theorian, from his mother's house. They went to an apartment,

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smoked cannabis with a friend, then, after the friend left,

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smoked methamphetamine and injected trazodone, a prescription antidepressant they were

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using recreationally. Then they returned to Theian's mother's house. His mother,

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Tara Pakinich, and her boyfriend were away, Shabuzznis and Theorian

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went down to the basement and began having sex. According

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to Shabbuznis's confession, they'd engaged in erotic asphyxiation in prior encounters.

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This time they used metal chains. Shabbuzzness strangled Theorian until

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he started coughing up blood. Then she kept strangling him

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for three to five minutes until he was dead. Then

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it gets exponentially worse. Shabuziness performed oral sex on Theian's corpse,

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used sex toys on his body for several hours. Necrophilia

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fueled by meth and whatever darkness lives inside Taylor Shabiznis.

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Next morning, she dismembered the body using knives she found

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in the house, positioned Theorian's body on the bed, and

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beheaded him over a bucket and a storage tote to

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contain the blood. Dumped the blood down the basement shower drain,

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removed his organs and placed them in plastic bags. The tote,

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cardboard boxes, and the bucket February twenty third, twenty twenty two,

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early morning, Tara Pakinitch hears the house door shut, goes

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downstairs to check on her son, finds his severed head

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in a bucket in the basement, covered with a towel.

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His penis had also been removed and was in the bucket.

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Police search the basement, find human organs stuffed into plastic

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bags and cardboard boxes. Find Theian's torso and the storage

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tote with one of his severed feet placed inside it.

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Later find additional body parts, including his other foot, in

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a crock pot box inside Shabusiness's minivan. Eight hundred body parts.

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That's what Theorian became. Eight hundred pieces of what used

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to be a twenty four year old man, described by

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friends as kind and compassionate. Police found Shabbusiness at an

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apartment complex. Her clothes were covered in blood. She had

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a cut on her left thumb and scratches on her

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arms she claimed were self inflicted. She was arrested and

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charged with murder, mutilation of a corpse, and third degree

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sexual assault. Her defense attorney entered a not guilty by

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reason of insanity plea. But here's where Shabbusiness proved she's

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not just mentally ill, she's dangerous in any setting. February fourteenth,

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twenty twenty three, during a court hearing, Shabizness attacked her

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own lawyer, Quinn Jolly, after he requested the trial date

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be pushed back so experts could evaluate her competency. She

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was tackled by a Brown County Sheriff's officer. Jolly requested

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to be removed from the case. He was replaced by

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Christopher Frolick. At trial, forensic psychologist Diane Litton testified that

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shab Business told her she had a thing with Jeffrey

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Dahmer a year ago. Jeffrey Dahmer was murdered in prison

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in nineteen ninety four. Shabuznis was born in nineteen ninety eight.

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She was living in a fantasy world where she had

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a relationship with a dead serial killer who specialized in murder, dismemberment,

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and necrophilia. July twenty sixth, twenty twenty three, a jury

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convicted Shabuziness of first degree intentional homicide, mutilation of a corpse,

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and third degree sexual assault. September twenty sixth, twenty twenty three,

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Judge Walsh sentenced her to life in prison without the

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possibility of parole. Judge Walsh said he had to protect

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the public from her. This crime offends human decency, It

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offends human dignity, It offends the human community. It really does. Remarkably,

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theian's father forgave Shabusiness at sentencing. He told her, I

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believe everybody makes bad choices, maybe not to this scale.

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It does no good to hate. I know you've got

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a heart, got a mind, that's grace. I can't comprehend

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your son was strangled, sexually abused, post mortem, decapitated, dismembered,

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and scattered across multiple locations, and you forgive the person

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who did it. That's either saintly or trauma induced denial,

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maybe both. Shab Business is now serving her life sentence

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at Tai Cheetah Correctional Institution, a maximum security facility for

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female inmates in Fon du Lac, Wisconsin, but she can't

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stop being violent even in maximum security. July twenty twenty four,

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shab Business requested medical attention for a staple in her arm.

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A nurse went to get tweezers to help remove it.

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While the nurse was gone, Shabuziness allegedly lunged at her.

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When she returned, a prison guard intervened, allowing the nurse

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to escape. Then Schabuzznus attacked the guard, hit her in

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the head with a tray, swung a metal table at her.

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This is someone already serving life without perle, so she

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has nothing to lose by attacking staff. She's been charged

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with battery. Originally had a different defense attorney for this case,

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Curtis Julka, but at an April preliminary hearing, Sha Business

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lunged at him too, just like she lunged at her

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previous attorney during her murder trial. Attacking lawyers is apparently

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her specialty. Yulka withdrew from the case. Christopher Frolish, the

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attorney who replaced her first attorney after she attacked him

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during the murder trial, took over again, so Frolic is

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now representing shab Business for the second time after she

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attacked two different attorneys. In June, at a hearing for

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the battery case, Sha Business blew a kiss to the

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camera as she was wheeled into the courtroom in restraints.

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Because even facing new charges for attacking a prison guard,

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she's performing for attention. Today's hearing is supposed to address

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whether she'll be restrained at trial and other motions. Her

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trial for attacking the prison guard is scheduled for October

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twenty seventh. Think about that. Shab Business is serving life

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without parole from murdering, decapitating, dismembering, and sexually abusing her

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boyfriend's corpse. She's already in the worst prison for women

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in Wisconsin. She's never getting out, and she's still attacking people,

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the nurses, the guard, her own attorneys, multiple attacks in

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multiple settings. She's not just mentally ill, she's violently dangerous

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in any environment, medicated or not supervised or not. Taylor's

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shabb Business strangled Shad theory In during sex, had sex

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with his corpse, cut off his head, dismembered his body,

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and left his head in a bucket for his mother

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to find. She told a psychologist she had a thing

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with Jeffrey Dahmer, a serial killer who died six years

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before she was born. She's attacked multiple attorneys, in a

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prison guard, and somehow she's still finding ways to be

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in court. Today's hearing trial on October twenty seventh. More

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court dates to come, probably because Shabusiness will likely attack

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someone else Eventually, shad Thurian's mother found her son's head

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in a bucket. That's the last thing she saw of

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the child she raised, not a memorial, not a funeral

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with a body, a severed head in a bucket covered

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with a towel with his penis next to it. Taylor

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Shabuznis did that is serving life for doing that, and

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continues to attack anyone within reach because that's who she is.

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Not just mentally ill, not just insane, fundamentally permanently, irredeemably dangerous.

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She's in the right place, maximum security, life without parole,

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but even that's not enough to stop her from hurting people.

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Some people can't be rehabilitated. Some people can only be contained.

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Taylor's shab business is one of them. That's celebrity trials

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for Thursday, October ninth, twenty twenty five. Mark Sanchez could

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face sixteen years in prison if prosecutors up raid his

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charges to level three felony. Fox insiders confirm his broadcasting

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career is over a parking space dispute at twelve thirty

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in the morning, destroyed everything he built After football, did

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he ask Trump for a pardon? Trump confirmed it, but

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wouldn't say if he'll grant it. Meanwhile, did he wants

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to serve his time at Fort Dix in New Jersey,

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where he can access drug treatment and be closer to

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his family. He's already planning his release from ascendence he

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just started serving. Bianca Ellis trial witnesses described her walking

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away from stabbing three year old Julian Wood to death

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like she was walking in the park, swinging the bloody

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knife with a smile on her face. The defense says

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she was insane. The witnesses say she knew exactly what

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she was doing. And Taylorshaw business who strangled her boyfriend

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during sex, decapitated him, dismembered him, had sex with his corpse,

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and left his head in a bucket for his mother

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to find. Is back in court for attacking a prison guard.

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She's serving life without parole and still can't stip attacking people.

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I'm read Carter Thursday prove that consequences exist on a spectrum.

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Mark Sanchez faces sixteen years for a parking dispute. Diddy

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is begging Trump to erase his four year sentence. Ellis

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is on trial claiming insanity for murdering a toddler, shab

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business is in maximum security for life and still finding

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people to attack. Some crimes get plea deals, some get pardons,

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some get life sentences, and some people are so dangerous

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that even life in maximum security isn't enough to stop

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them from hurting others. See you tomorrow with whatever fresh

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chaos America produces overnight. By the way, before we go,

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