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Lindsay Clancy Trial: 'Medication Stole My Motherhood,' Luigi Mangione Moves to Kill the State Case, Tupac Trial Opening Statements

Lindsay Clancy Trial: 'Medication Stole My Motherhood,' Luigi Mangione Moves to Kill the State Case, Tupac Trial Opening Statements

Prosecutors in Lindsay Clancy's murder trial showed jurors notes and search history from her devices, including a note created in December 2022 and last modified January 23, 2023 — the day before she killed her three children — reading, "Medication stole my motherhood and my life." State police also testified she searched "can you treat a sociopath" days before the killings. On cross-examination, defense attorney Kevin Reddington established that an earlier search for suicide methods came from her then-husband's tablet while she was out of the house, and walked jurors through searches for hallucinations and intrusive thoughts that the state had not highlighted. Clancy has pleaded not guilty to three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months, and argues she was not criminally responsible. The Commonwealth is close to resting. Also: after pleading guilty Friday to two federal stalking counts, Luigi Mangione moved to dismiss the New York murder case on double jeopardy grounds; the Manhattan District Attorney's office is opposing. And in Las Vegas, opening statements begin in the murder trial of Duane Davis in the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur.

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Caalaroga Shark Media. Good morning. This is daily Crime Injustice

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from Calaroga Shark Media powered by AI. I'm Garrett Fisher. Monday,

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August seventeenth, twenty twenty six. There is a note on

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Lindsey Clancy's phone. She created it on December twenty second,

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twenty twenty two. She modified it for the last time

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on January twenty third, twenty twenty three. The next day Cora,

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Dawson and Callen were dead. That note says medication stole

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her motherhood and her life. It says prescription medication stole

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her from her own body. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts put

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that into evidence. The prosecution read it to the jury

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because in their theory of this case, that note shows

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a woman who was thinking clearly, who could construct a sentence,

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who knew what she was doing and had a grievance

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about it. And Kevin Reddington will argue that same note

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is the single best piece of evidence his client has,

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that is the whole trial. Same words, two completely opposite meanings.

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Twelve people are going to have to pick one. Today

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Thursday in Plymouth, when the state finally showed the jury

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what was on Lindsay Clancy's devices, and Reddington looked at

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their star digital witness and asked, that's it. Then, something

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I've been chewing on all weekend, which is what's happening

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outside that courtroom. Because social media has decided this trial

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has a villain and it is not the woman who

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killed three children. There are TikTok montages tracking what a

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prosecutor wears in her hair. I have thoughts about that,

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and you may not like all of them. Then New

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York on Friday, Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty in federal court

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with no deal and no promises, and within minutes his

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lawyers moved to blow up the state murder case. We

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covered the plea in a bulletin today What Happens Next,

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and in Las Vegas this morning at nine thirty opening statements.

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Thirty years after Tupac Shakur was shot at a red light,

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twelve jurors and four alternates are about to hear the case.

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I'm Garrett Fisher. This is Daily Crime and Justice Court.

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Clancy was five, Dawson Clancy was three, Callan Clancy was

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eight months old. Their mother strangled them with exercise bands

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in the basement of the family home in Duxbury, Massachusetts,

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on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. She admits it.

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She is pleaded not guilty to three counts of first

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degree murder on the ground that she was not criminally

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responsible and she is presumed innocent. Court was dark Friday.

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Testimony resumes this morning, so Thursday is where we pick up,

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and Thursday was the day the prosecution went digital. Massachusetts

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State Police Sergeant Kyle Pavau testified about a Microsoft surface

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pro in the Clancy house on August twenty third, twenty

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twenty two, at nine forty in the morning. That device

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was used to search for a singer named Tom Hall

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who died by suicide in twenty twenty one, and from

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there it navigated to a website about suicide methods. That's

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the evidence, planning research months in advance. And then Kevin

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Reddington stood up, that's it, that's your testimony. That's why

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you're here today. And then he did the thing that mattered.

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He had. The trooper confirmed two facts to the jury. One,

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the surface pro belonged to Patrick Clancy, the husband. Two,

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Lindsey Clancy wasn't home. She was at a doctor's appointment

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for Dawson when that search happened. Look, I'm gonna be

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honest with you. If you are the Commonwealth and you

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are building a premeditation case and your digital evidence expert

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has to sit there and agree that the search was

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on somebody else's computer while your defendant was at a

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pediatrician's office, that is a bad afternoon. Then came Trooper

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Timothy Chiappini, who analyzed the extraction from Lindsay Clancy's own phone,

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and this is stronger. Three days before the killings, she

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searched can you Treat a sociopath? And they read her journal.

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The first entry was created October twenty fifth, twenty twenty two,

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modified November three. In it, she writes that she's sad

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and depressed, that she stopped breastfeeding and doesn't feel as

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connected to Callen. That she thinks she resents her other

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children because they prevent her from treating the baby the

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way she treated her first, and that she knows that

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isn't fair to them. She writes that she wants to

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feel love and connection with all of her kids. She

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writes about an internal conflict because her whole life she

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wanted a lot of children. In another version read to

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the jury, she writes that she's struggling because she wanted

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to parent each of her kids the way she parented

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her first, and since she can't, that's depressing, and she

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calls it the root cause of all their problems, and

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then she writes that she's going to try her best today.

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The second note is the one from December twenty second,

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modified January twenty third. Medication stole my motherhood and my life.

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Prescription medication stole me from my own body. Then the

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state put up an Apple map search, plotting distance and

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travel time from the Clancy house to the restaurant and

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the CBS where she sent Patrick that night their argument.

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She measured how long she had that's goal directed thinking,

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that's intent. That is a real piece of evidence, and

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I'm not going to wave it away. Timing how long

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your husband will be gone is not something a person

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does by accident, and the sociopath search is worse because

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of what it implies about self awareness. Three days out,

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she is asking whether a condition characterized by an absence

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of conscience can be treated. The state will say that's

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a woman who knew something was wrong with her and

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was researching it clinically. The defense will say it's a

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woman terrified of what was happening inside her own head,

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googling at two in the morning, the same way she

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googled hallucinations five days later, and intrusive thoughts the day

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after that. I don't know which of those it is.

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Neither do you. That's the point of a trial. But

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watch what Reddington did with the rest of that phone.

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He walked the trooper through January twenty fourth, the day

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of and he had him confirmed. There was a photograph

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on that phone that Lindsey Clancy took of Cora and

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Dawson with a snowman they'd built, and Patrick's replied to it,

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you're a good mama. That's on the same device same day.

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Then Reddington went after what the prosecution had left out.

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Because the state showed the jury a suicide methods website

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and a sociopath search, Reddington showed them the searches the

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state skipped. On January nineteenth, she searched hallucinations. On January twentieth,

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she searched intrusive and in between the medication searches and

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the psychiatric symptom searches, there she is looking up pre

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made goodie bags. On New Year's Eve best kids movies.

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That's the picture the defense wants that jury holding a

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woman googling her own symptoms in the same week she's

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googling party favors for her children. The prosecution says, the

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journal proves she was lucid and resentful. The defense says,

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the journal proves she was drowning and knew it and

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wrote it down and asked for help. Anyway, both sides

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are reading from the same page. And here's what strikes

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me about those entries, having now read them a few times.

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They are not the writing of somebody building an alibi.

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Nobody constructs a fake insanity defense by writing that they

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resent their own children and then adding that they know

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that isn't fair to them. That's not a person performing.

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That's a person taking inventory of herself and not liking

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what she finds. It's also, and this cuts the other way,

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evidence of a woman who was capable of sustained, organized,

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self aware thought in the weeks before she killed three people.

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Prosecutors will hammer that psychosis, they will argue, does not

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write coherent paragraphs about breastfeeding and internal conflict. The defense

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answer to that is going to come from experts, and

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it's going to be that postpartum psychosis is not a

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permanent fog. It waxes, it waves. A person can be

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organized on a Tuesday and gone on a Thursday. Whether

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this jury buys that is the entire case. One more

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thing from earlier in the week, because it belongs with this.

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When Reddington caught a discrepancy in doctor Jennifer Tuff's own

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notes in the medical record and pressed her on it,

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Tuffs got frustrated and told him she knows what she meant.

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Judge Sullivan had already had to remind her to let

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him finish his questions before she answered, I know what

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I meant. That's a psychiatrist defending her own documentation in

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a murder trial, where the documentation is the evidence. The

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Commonwealth is close to resting. Testimony resumes this morning, and

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then finally we hear from the defense. We'll be right

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back now. The thing I've been chewing on. Something is

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happening around this trial that has not happened in any

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comparable case. I can remember. When Susan Smith drowned her sons,

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the public wanted her destroyed. When Casey Anthony was tried,

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the public wanted her destroyed. Those two women became shorthand

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for monstrousness in this country for thirty years. Lindsey Clancy

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has admitted to killing three children, and the Internet has

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largely lined up behind her, and not just behind her

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against the prosecutors. There's a TikTok user calling the prosecutors

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in this case not just bad at their jobs, but

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disgusting human beings. A forensic scientist with an audience saying

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the state is going to lose this jury. A woman

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testified for the defense request who called the prosecution of

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this case an abomination. Court TV took this to two

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defense attorneys, and I want to give you both because

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they don't agree. Mark Iglarsh, a Florida defense lawyer and

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former prosecutor, said the thing, the thing that surprised him

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is how fast people went from thinking there might be

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a legitimate mental health explanation to deciding Lindsey Clancy is

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innocent and the prosecution is the villain. He said, those

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are very different conclusions. He also said he thinks the

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prosecutors are doing an effective job, that they're prepared and

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they know their evidence. David Bruno, a New Jersey defense

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attorney and former prosecutor, disagreed. On the tactics. He thinks

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calling the medical examiner was a mistake, given that it

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left Clancy sobbing and forced the state to clean up

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its own witness. He also thinks the state got ahead

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of its skis by taking on the sanity question before

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the defense is even opened, and in doing so handed

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Reddington the chance to start laying bricks early. Both of

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them agree on the endgame, though this case comes down

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to the experts defense, case in chief prosecution rebuttal, whoever

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the jury finds more credible. Now here's the part I

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need to talk about, because it is the ugliest piece

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of this and nobody is saying it plainly. Assistant District

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Attorney Shane and Buckingham has worn a bow in her

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hair every day of this trial. In her opening statement,

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she told the jury about Cora, that Cora had just

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turned five, that she was sweet and silly and smart,

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that she loved sparkly dresses and wearing bows in her hair.

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And every day since Buckingham has worn one. There are

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people online making montage videos cataloging each bow. There are

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people calling it a cheap gimmick, a manipulation of the jury,

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torture of the defendant the lawyer's court TV asked had

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real concerns about it, and they're not frivolous ones. Bruno

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called it improper and said an appellate court could have

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a problem with it if that's why she's wearing them,

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because it injects the prosecutor's emotions into the case. Egglarsh

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called it a courtroom optics problem, said the prosecutor's job

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is to present evidence rather than visually reinforce it, and

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made the fair point that if a defense lawyer wore

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a symbol representing postpartum psychosis, the state would call it

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emotional manipulation. Those are legitimate professional criticisms, and I'm not

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dismissing them. If it's a jury tactic, it's a bad

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one and it could cost the commonwealth on appeal. But

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I want you to sit with what we're actually looking at.

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In a triple child homicide, the thing generating the most

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online outrage is that a prosecutor is wearing a hair

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ribbon for a five year old girl who was strangled

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in a basement. Cora Clancy loved bows in her hair.

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That is a real fact about a real child who existed.

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She was five. She liked sparkly dresses. Her preschool teacher

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said she was sweet and loved her little brother and

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played with barbies. And in three weeks of testimony about

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medications and screening scales and telehealth appointments and Edinburgh scores,

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that beow may be the only thing in that courtroom

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that has consistently reminded anybody that Cora was a person.

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I've spent three weeks on this show tellelling you the

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system failed Lindsey Clancy, because I believe the evidence shows

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that turned away from women and infants a twenty three

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out of thirty. Her prescriber never saw four providers, none

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of them talking. All of that is real, and I'm

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not walking any of it back. But there are three

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children in this case, and lately they have become a detail.

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The story has become a woman and a healthcare system

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and a prosecutor's accessories. Cora, Dawson and Callen have almost

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disappeared from it. Somebody has to say their names. If

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it takes a ribbon, then let her wear the ribbon.

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And one more thing about the online jury. Those people

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are not in that courtroom. They have not sat through

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fourteen days of testimony. They are watching clips edited to

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a point chosen because they provoke. Meanwhile, twelve actual jurors

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are sitting there with no phones, hearing all of it

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in order, including the parts that don't make anybody's feed. Whatever,

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those twelve decide they will know things the internet does not,

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and I'll say the uncomfortable part. The reason this case

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is broken differently than Susan Smith or Casey Anthony is

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not only that we understand postpartum illness better now, though

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we do. It's also that Lindsey Clancy is sympathetic in

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ways those women were not permitted to be. She was

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a labor and delivery nurse. She has a paper trail

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of asking for help. She is in a wheelchair in

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that courtroom. All of that is real, and none of

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it is evidence of what was in her mind on

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January twenty fourth. A jury is supposed to decide criminal

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responsibility on the evidence, not on how much a defendant

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deserves our compassion. Those can point the same direction, they

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often don't more In a moment. On Friday, we brought

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you a bulletin. Luigi Manjone pleaded guilty in federal court

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to two counts of stalking resulting in death. He told

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Judge Margaret Garnett that he shot Brian Thompson in Manhattan

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and Thompson died, and that he knew what he was

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doing was illegal. Here's what's happened since and the shape

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of what's coming. There was no plea agreement, no negotiated sentence.

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He pleaded open to the full indictment, and within minutes

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his lawyers filed with New York Supreme Court Justice Gregory

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Caro to dismiss the state case second degree murder, the

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weapons counts, all of it. Karen Friedman Agniphilo's argument outside

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court one tragic event prosecuted twice and New York law

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does not permit that. She said, the guilty plea triggers

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the statute. The Manhattan District Attorney's office is fighting it.

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Their position is that they'll litigate the motion, that the

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federal sentence isn't even known yet, and that they remain

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committed to seeking justice for Brian Thompson and his family.

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They've argued the stalking counts and the murder count address

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different harms. And now for the part I want you

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to actually take away because there is a lot of

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confident nonsense circulating about this. Some serious people think the

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state case is finished. CNN's legal analyst Joey Jackson said flatly,

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he believes the double jeopardy argument is real and the

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state trial goes away because both cases arise from the

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same transaction and the same facts. A former federal prosecutor,

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Nama Ramani, said the federal plea may torpedo the state

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murder case entirely, and went further. He said, what the

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Fed should have done was dismissed their case and let

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the state go first. Think about that for a second.

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That's a former federal prosecutor saying the Justice Department may

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have handed this defendant the exit. The federal case was

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built to seek the death penalty because New York State

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has no death penalty. Then Judge Garnett throughout the federal

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murder count as technically flawed, and the death penalty went

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with it. What was left were two stalking counts, and

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those two stalking counts may now be the mechanism that

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races a state murder prosecution. There's a precedent. People keep

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pointing at Paul Manifort. New York state charges against him

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were dismissed after his federal prosecution on exactly this kind

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of ground, but nobody knows. Caro has to rule. Either

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side can appeal. This could take months, and the September

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eighth trial date is very likely gone regardless. And I

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want to name what actually happened here, because it's a

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story about institutions, not about a defendant. Two prosecution offices

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wanted this case. The state had it first, The state

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did most of the work. Back in February, Judge Caro

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set out loud in open court that it appeared the

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federal government had reneged on an agreement to let the

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state go first. The defense at the time called it

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a tug of war between two prosecution offices. That tug

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of war is how you get here. The Feds went

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in for the death penalty, lost the count that carried

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it kept what was left, and the leftovers may now

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dissolve the murder case. Two offices fought over who got

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to punish this man, and the fight itself may be

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what limits the punishment. Nobody planned that everybody involved was

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doing what looked right from inside their own building. So

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where does that leave things. Manjoni is a convicted felon

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who admitted killing a man he faces up to life

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and his sentence December eighteenth. Prosecutors put the guideline range

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at roughly twenty four to thirty years, though Garnett isn't

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bound by it, he is not walking away from this.

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What the statecase would add is the word murder and

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a sentence that could run consecutively. That's what's being fought over.

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Brian Thompson was fifty years old. His family said Friday

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that the plea is an important step, that nothing eases

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losing him, and that they're now looking to the court

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to make the sentence match the crime. They said they

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remain mindful that proceedings in New York and Pennsylvania are

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still to come. That's a family asking for the case

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to go forward. Remember that when you see the analysy.

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Now Las Vegas this morning at nine point thirty, opening

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statements begin in the murder trial of Dwayne Davis sixty

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three in the killing of Tupac Shakur. The jury is

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seated twelve jurors, four alternates, ten women, and six men.

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It took four days and more than one hundred Clark

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County residents to get there. A self improvement coach, a

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mailman The youngest juror seated is twenty one years old,

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born nine years after Tupac Shakur was killed, and he

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told the court he listens to Tupac when he wants

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a West Coast feel. Think about that, a man died

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in nineteen ninety six and his music is still recruiting

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people who weren't alive for it. The courtroom during selection

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was full of people in Tupac shirts, some with Tupac tattoos.

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By day two, the court had posted a sign banning clothing, hats, buttons,

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or pins, referencing the case. Getting a seat required showing

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up an hour early and waiting. One of the people

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in that room was Darryl Harper, a former Death Row

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producer who knew Shakor and flew in from Georgia. He

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said it was important to be there, that he wanted

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fans to know he was still supporting Tupac, And then

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he said the thing that I think is the most

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decent sentence anybody has said about this case. He said

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he wants justice, but he also wants them to have

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the right person. He said he doesn't want them grabbing

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just anyone so they can say they solve the Tupac case.

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That's a friend of the victim insisting on due process

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for the defendant. Hold that up against the internet for

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a minute. Here's what's coming. Prosecutors expect thirty five to

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forty five witnesses, running from people who saw Shakur in

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his last moments to associates of both men. Soog Knight,

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who was driving the car and is serving twenty eight

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years in an unrelated case, is on the witness list

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and has said repeatedly he wants nothing to do with this.

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He is the only surviving person who was in that BMW.

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Nevada Governor Joe Lombardo is also expected on that list.

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He responded to the scene as a Las Vegas police

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sergeant in the nineties, which tells you how long ago

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this was. The cop who worked the scene is now

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the governor of the state. Sean Combs, will not be called.

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Attorneys have confirmed that Davis named him in the memoir.

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Combs has denied any involvement and has never been charged

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in connection with Shakur's death. Davis is charged with first

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degree murder with a deadly weapon with intent to promote

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or assist a criminal gang. He has pleaded not guilty

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and is presumed innocent. His memoir and his prior police

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interviews are coming in as evidence. His position now is

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that the book was fiction. He faces life if convicted,

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and he's already waived his right to be sentenced by

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the jury, So if it comes to that, Judge Carly

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Kearney alone decides four to five weeks starting this morning.

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Tupac Amaru Shakur was twenty five years old. He sold

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more than seventy five million records. He has been dead

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for almost thirty years, and no one has ever been

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convey of anything for it. Someone has to say his name,

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do better. Three stories Today in Plymouth, the Commonwealth put

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Lindsay Clancy's journal and device data in front of the jury,

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including a note modified the day before her children died,

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saying prescription medication stole her from her own body. Kevin

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Reddington established that a suicide method search came from her

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husband's computer while she was out of the house, and

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walked the jury through searches for hallucinations and intrusive thoughts

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that the state had passed over. Clancy has pleaded not

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guilty and is presumed innocent. Testimony resumes this morning and

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the Commonwealth is close to resting. In New York, Luigi

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Manngone pleaded guilty Friday to two federal stalking counts with

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no plea agreement and immediately moved to dismiss the state

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murder case on double jeopardy grounds. Judge Gregory Caro will decide.

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Federal sentencing is December eighteenth. Thompson was fifty years old

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and in Las Vegas this morning opening statements in the

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murder trial of Dwayne Davis in the killing of Tupac Shakur.

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Davis has pleaded not guilty. If this show is worth

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your time, send it to one person. That's how this

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thing has grown, and it's the only way it grows.

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And if you're listening on Spotify, drop a comment. I

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want to hear where you land on the bows because

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I know some of you are going to think I

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got that one wrong, and I want to hear why. Tomorrow,

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whatever Plymouth and Las Vegas give us. I'm Garrett Fischer.

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This is Daily Crime and Justice from Calaroga Shark Media. Disclaimer.

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This program covers active criminal proceedings and is based on

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court testimony, court filings, and reporting available at the time

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of recording. Lindsey Clancy has pleaded not guilty to three

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counts of first degree murder and is presumed innocent. She

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has acknowledged causing her children's deaths and asserts she was

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not criminally responsible. Dan Davis has pleaded not guilty and

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is presumed innocent. Luigi Mangioni has pleaded guilty to two

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federal counts, but has not been convicted of murder in

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any jurisdiction and remains presumed innocent as depending charges in

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New York and Pennsylvania, no jury has ruled in the

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Clancy or Davis matters. In the Clancy trial, journal entries

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and search history described here were read into the record

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by the prosecution and paraphrase for broadcast. The characterization of

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what any entry means is contested by the parties and

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is a question for the jury. Nothing said here is

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a finding about the quality of any provider's care. Several

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treating providers are named defendants in civil suits that have

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not been tried and deny wrongdoing. Criticism of prosecutors described

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in this program comes from social media users and from

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defense attorneys not involved in the case speaking to Court TV.

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No court has found any impropriety by the prosecution, and

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no motion for guarding courtroom attire has been reported. Commentary

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about Assistant District Attorney Shanan Buckingham's attire reflects opinions offered publicly.

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Her reasons for wearing a bow have not been stated

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by her on the record, and the connection to opening

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statement testimony about Cora clancy is an inference drawn by commentators,

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including us. In the Mangione matter, no ruling has been

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made on the defense motion to dismiss the state charges.

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Predictions about the outcome quoted here are the opinions of

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legal analysts not involved in the case. Reporting differs on

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the exact framing of Council's remarks outside court. Sean Combs

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has denied involvement in Tupac Shakur's death and has not

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been charged in connection with it. Attorneys have said he

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will not be called as a witness. Reporting varies on

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the expected trial length given as three, four or five

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weeks by different outlets, and on the number of witnesses,

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given as roughly thirty five to forty five. This episode

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discusses postpartimental illness, suicide, the deaths of children, and gun violence.

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If you are struggling with postpartum mood symptoms. The National

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Maternal Mental Health Hotline is free, confidential and available around

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the clock. Call or text one eight three three tl CMAMA.

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If you are having thoughts of suicide, call or text

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nine eight eight to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.