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Callaroga Shark Media. Good morning. I'm Reed Carter. Monday, January fifth,
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twenty twenty six. Hope you enjoyed our twelve Crimes of
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Christmas special while the courts were closed. From John Benet
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Ramsay to Drew Peterson, we covered some of the most
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infamous cases in American history. But the courts are open again.
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A new year of crime and justice and trials begins today.
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Before we look ahead, let's catch up on some stories
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that broke over the holidays. Melody Buzzard, nine years old,
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went missing in October. Her mother, Ashley, wore wigs, switched
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license plates, and led police on a multi state wild
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goose chase. Two weeks ago, Melody's body was found in
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rural Utah, gunshot wounds to the head. Her own mother
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charged with murder. Friday, Ashley Buzzard stood in a California
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courtroom and pleaded not guilty. The gallery erupted Brian Cooberger,
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the Idaho student killer who murdered four college students in
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twenty twenty two. He's been in maximum security prison since July,
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and according to sources inside, he's not handling it well,
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complaining about food filing grievances, threatening self harm. Guards are
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calling him a diva. His supporters have sent him twenty
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eight thousand dollars for commissary an. Investigators say he's transforming
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into his own vision of Hannibal Lecter and Luigi Mangoni.
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The CEO Assassin is fighting the death penalty with a
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new argument conflict of interest. His lawyer's claim Attorney General
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Pam Bondi should have recused herself from the case because
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her former lobbying firm represented United Healthcare's parent company. A
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hearing is set for January ninth. I'm reed, Carter Courts
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are back in session. Let's get to work. This is
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celebrity Trials. Friday, December twenty sixth, Santa Maria, California, Santa
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Barbara County Superior Court. Ashley Buzzard, forty years old, walked
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into the courtroom for her arraignment. Natural blonde, curly hair,
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no makeup, a blouse instead of jail attire. The woman
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who'd spent months wearing wigs and evading police now stood
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before a judge. The gallery was packed melodies, family media,
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true crime observers, everyone waiting to hear what this mother
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would say about murdering her nine year old daughter. Judge
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John McGregor asked for her plea not guilty. The courtroom
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erupted gasps. Someone muttered, oh my God. Officials had to
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quiet the gallery. Family members broke down in tears erupted
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in anger. Ashley also denied the special allegations lying in
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wait and discharging a firearm causing death. Her attorney requested
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and received a temporary gag order, preventing Sheriff Bill Brown
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and his employees from speaking further about the case. Ur
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prosecutors announced they won't seek the death penalty, but they're
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asking for life in prison without parole. Ashley remains in
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jail without bail. Preliminary hearing set for January seventh. Let
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me tell you how we got here. October fourteenth, twenty
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twenty five, a school administrator in Lompoc, California, called the
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Santa Barbara County Sheriff's office. They were concerned about nine
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year old Melody Buzzard. She'd been homeschooled, required to pick
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up coursework from the school district with a parent, but
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nobody had seen Melody since August. Two months a nine
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year old girl hadn't been seen for two months, deputies
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went to the family home on Mars Avenue. Ashley Buzzard
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was there, but her daughter wasn't and Ashley wasn't talking.
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Detectives started digging found evidence that Ashley and Melody had
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taken a road trip in a rented vehicle multi state Kansas, Colorado, Utah, Arizona,
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Nevada back to California. And here's where it gets to
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start herbing. Ashley and Melody were last seen together on
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surveillance footage on October ninth, near the Colorado Utah border,
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both wearing wigs. Ashley had switched the license plates on
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the rental car. She backed into gas stations to avoid
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surveillance cameras. This level of criminal activity is particularly shocking,
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Sheriff Brown said, given the calculated, cold blooded, and criminally
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sophisticated premeditation and heartlessness that went into planning it. On
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October tenth, Ashley returned home to California alone. Where was Melody?
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Ashley wouldn't say. Detectives described deliberate efforts to prevent them
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from locating Melody and uncovering the truth. The mother was
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uncooperative throughout the investigation. For two months, police searched the
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FBI joined the case. Search warrants were executed on Ashley's home. Then,
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on December sixth, the break, two people taking photographs near
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Capitol Reef National Park in Wayne count On A, Utah,
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discovered human remains in a rural area badly decomposed. Authorities
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couldn't immediately identify them, but FBI crime lab analysis confirmed it.
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The remains were a familial DNA match to Ashley Buzzard.
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December twenty second, the identification was confirmed December twenty third,
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Ashleigh Buzzard was arrested and charged with first degree murder.
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The coroner determined that Melody died from multiple gunshot wounds
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to the head. Her own mother shot her in the
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head multiple times. And here's the evidence linking Ashleigh to
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the murder. Cartridge cases found at the crime scene in
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Utah were positively linked to an expended cartridge case found
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in Ashley's home during one of the searches. Also matched
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a live round of similar ammunition found in the rental car.
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The gun has never been recovered, the motive has never
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been determined. This is an extraordinarily tragic case involving the
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murder of a child by the very person she relied
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upon and trusted the most. Sheriff Brown said, while maternal
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phylicide is rare and difficult to comprehend, the evidence in
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this case clearly indicates a calculated, deliberate, and ruthless act.
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Melody's family has spoken out. Her paternal uncle, Marvin Mesa,
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called Ashley's actions despicable. Her paternal grandmother, Lily Dean's told
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reporters outside the courthouse, You're a mother, I'm a mother,
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I'm a grandmother. How can you do that to a baby.
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Family members say Ashley isolated Melody after her father's death.
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Rubiel Misa, Melody's father, died in a motorcycle accident. After that,
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Ashley cut the girl off from the world, suffered from
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mental health issues, lost custody of Melody. At one point,
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was in significant debt. There were so many hurdles, just
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so much going on within the family. Melody's aunt, Elizabeth Masa,
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said the system failed her by giving her back to
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a mother time and time again when she was unstable.
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The system failed her. Those words echo through every case
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like this. How does a nine year old go missing
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for two months before anyone reports it? How does a
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mother with known mental health issues, who'd previously lost custody,
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end up alone with her child on a cross country
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road trip. How does she allegedly murder her daughter in
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rural Utah and drive home without anyone noticing The system failed? Melody, Buzzard,
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and now she's dead. Melody was nine years old. Should
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be in fourth grade, should be learning multiplication tables and
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making friends and dreaming about what she wants to be
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when she grows up. Rest in peace, Melody, someone has
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to say your name. We'll be right back. With Brian
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Coberger's prison meltdown and Luigi Mangione's fight against the death penalty.
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Brian Coburger murdered four University of Idaho students on November thirteenth,
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twenty twenty two. Kaylee Goncalves twenty one, Madison Mogan twenty one,
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Xana Kernodle twenty Ethan Chapin twenty stabbed to death in
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their beds in the middle of the night. In July
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twenty twenty five, Coburger pleaded guilty, entered the plea himself,
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controlling his own narrative, showed no emotion in court, refused
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to reveal his motive, refused to say where the murder
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weapon was He was sentenced to life without parole, transported
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to the Idaho Maximum Security Institution near Kuna, eighteen miles
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south of Boise, a five hundred and thirty five man
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prison that bail bondsman Kevin Corson calls an awful dark place.
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Five months later, according to sources inside the prison, Coburger
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is falling apart. Murder is about control, said Howard Blum,
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an investigative reporter who wrote a book about the Idaho murders,
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and prison is the ultimate situation where you have no control.
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He's not responding well to that. Guards at the facility
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view Coburger as a diva. According to Chris McDonough, a
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retired homicide detective who works for the Cold Case Foundation,
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the prison is already short staffed. McDonough said they're working
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twelve hour shifts and then they are also dealing with
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his constant complaints. He takes up extra time because whenever
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a complaint is in writing, they have to respond to it.
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He is just relentless in sending communications to the prison guards.
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Coburger's problem started on day one. On his first night
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behind bars, the menu included hot dogs, salad, and jello
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pie not exactly gourmet cuisine, but this is prison, not
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a resort. Within his first two days, Coburger filed two complaints,
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one requesting a move to another part of the prison,
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another complaining about the food. His aunt and unle previously
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said Coburger was o c d about meals, once demanded
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they buy new pots and pans that hadn't touched meat
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before preparing food for him. In a handwritten complaint obtained
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by the Idaho Statesman, Coburger wrote, I have, on several
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occasions not received all items of food on my tray.
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The policy book confirms items missing which are pointed out
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during service will be replaced. I wish to, without exception,
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receive these replacements. The nutritional standard is not being upheld
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unless I receive my full tray. The bananas were the
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wrong type. Let that sink in. A man who stabbed
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four college students to death is complaining that the bananas
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are wrong. By the end of his fifth week in prison,
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Coburger had filed five formal complaints. But it's not just
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the food. Coburger is being held in Isolation Unit two
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of J Block twenty three hours a day in his
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cell one hour for exercise, and his fellow inmates they
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would heckle him through the vents between cells, McDonough said,
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menacing him with warnings of sexual assault. Coburger has complained
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about the abuse, filed more grievances, but complaining about other
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inmates in prison, that's not how you survive. It's a
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bad thing to draw attention to yourself when you're in prison,
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McDonough said. The inmates take note of everything in the facility.
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They've got all the time in the world for the
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rest of their lives, so they watch and they listen.
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Complaining about other inmates is not ever the right position
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to take in prison. You just want to shut your
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mouth and do your time. Last month, a prison source
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told reporters that Coburger was threatening to harm himself unless
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he was moved to another part of the prison, but
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he's still in j block. The prison apparently evaluated him
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and determined he wasn't actually a danger to himself. Making
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threats you don't follow through on smart way to lose credibility.
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And here's what might be making Coburger a target. Money
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supporters of the quadruple Murderer donated twenty eight thousand dollars
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to him while he was in jail awaiting trial. That
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money is available for commissary purchases, hygiene products, extra food,
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writing materials, things other inmates don't have. If two people
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are in for the rest of their lives for murder
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and they have nobody outside and their inmate next door
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has twenty eight thousand dollars on the books and you
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have fifty cents, what are you going to do? McDonough said,
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they are going to say, we're going to share while
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you're in prison. There's a subculture within the prison system,
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and it's a pecking order. Coburger's attitude isn't helping. He
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doesn't talk to people. He talks down to people. McDonough said.
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He thinks he's all that he's patronizing. Doctor Catherine Ramsland,
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a professor of forensic psychology who taught Coburger while he
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was studying for his master's degree, was asked if this
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behavior was in character. Nothing about offender surprises me, she said.
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Howard Bloom thinks Coburger will eventually start talking, seek attention,
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try to control his narrative again. He thinks he's a professor.
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In many ways, Bloom said he's going to be his
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vision of a Hannibal Lecter who can both be a
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serial killer and be above being a serial killer, being
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above the fray, commenting on it, and offering introspection and
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insight into the mind of a killer. Hannibal Lecter, that's
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who Brian Coburger wants to be. A sophisticated monster, an
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intellectual predator, someone who can analyze his own evil from
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a position of superiority. Accept Hannibal Lecter is fiction, and
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Brian Koeberger is a thirty one year old man complaining
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about bananas in an Idaho prison. He killed four kids,
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stabbed them to death, and now he's upset that the
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commissary doesn't have the right produce make it make sense.
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Kayley Goncalves was twenty one, Madison Mogan was twenty one,
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Xana Kernodle was twenty. Ethan Chapin was twenty. They should
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be graduating college, starting careers, living their lives. Rest in peace.
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Someone has to say their names. Luigi Mangione, the twenty
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seven year old Ivy League graduate accused of assassinating United
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Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a Manhattan sidewalk in December
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twenty twenty four, Mangoni faces federal charges that carry the
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death penalty. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced in April that
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she was directing prosecutors to seek capital punishment, calling it
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a premeditated, cold blooded assassination that shocked America. But Mangioni's
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defense team has a new argument, conflict of interest. In
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a court filing late Friday, Mangione's lawyers contend that Bondi's
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decision to seek the death penalty was tainted by her
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prior work as a lobbyist. Before becoming Attorney General, Bondi
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was a partner at Ballard Partners, a lobbying firm, and
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Ballard Partners represented United Health Group, the parent company of
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United Healthcare. The company Brian Thompson led. The defense calls
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this a profound conflict of interest that violated Mangioni's due
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process rights, and it gets worse. Bondi made a vow
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before taking office that she would follow ethical regulations and
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bow out of matters pertaining to Ballard clients for a year.
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Mangoni's lawyers say she broke that vow by involving herself
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in the death penalty decision. They also argue Bondi continues
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to profit from her work for Ballard through a profit
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sharing arrangement and a defined contribution plan. The firm administers
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the very person empowered to seek Mangioni's death as a
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financial stake in the case she is prosecuting. His lawyers
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wrote her conflict of interest should have caused her to
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recuse herself from making any decision on this case. Mangione's
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defense team, led by husband and wife attorneys Karen Friedman
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Agnifilo and Mark Agnifilo, wants prosecutors barred from seeking the
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death penalty and some charges thrown out. They also want
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to exclude evidence from the case, including the gun police