Oct. 28, 2025

"'HE NEED TO DIE': FOOLIO KILLER'S 2021 DEATH WISH TEXT & MARINE'S 'DELIBERATE' EXECUTION OF BABY MAMA"

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Reid Carter delivers updates from two explosive murder trials. In Tampa, Alicia Andrews' alleged role coordinating rapper Julio Foolio's birthday ambush unravels as prosecutors reveal her 2021 text: "he need to die." Friend testifies about gang war discussions three years before the murder. Cell phone data tracks Andrews and boyfriend driving 200 miles to execute the hit. In New Hampshire, Marine veteran Dustin Duren takes the stand, admitting he shot Caitlyn Naffziger "deliberately" in the head while holding their daughter—then tells jury it was self-defense. Amber Alert arrest footage shown. Both trials heading toward verdicts.

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Callaroga Shark Media. This is Celebrity Trials, your daily dose

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of courtroom drama. I'm Red Carter Tuesday, October twenty eighth,

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and we've got trial updates from two cases we've been

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following closely. In Tampa, testimony continues in the murder trial

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of Juliofulio, the Jacksonville rapper gunned down outside a hotel

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during his birthday celebration. And in New Hampshire, a marine

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veteran who shot his girlfriend and triggered an amber alert

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has taken the stand in his own defense, and his

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testimony is as disturbing as it is revealing two trials,

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two very different stories about violence, control, and what happens

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when relationships turn deadly. Let's get into it first up

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Florida versus Alicia Andrews and the murder of rapper Juliofulio.

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We're now three days into testimony and this case is

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everything you'd expect from a gang war turned courtroom drama.

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Alicia Andrews, twenty two years old, is the first of

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five defendants to stand trial for the June twenty twenty

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four murder of Charles Jones, better known as Julio folio

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Quick recap for anyone just tuning in. Fulio was a

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Jacksonville rapper, twenty six years old, documented member of the

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Gang six Block, long standing beef with rival gangs at

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k AND twelve hundred. On June twenty third, twenty twenty four,

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he was in Tampa celebrating his birthday. Made it to

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twenty six, didn't make it to twenty seven. Prosecutors say

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Andrews wasn't in a gang herself, but her boyfriend Isaiah

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Chance was atk AND on that June weekend. She allegedly

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helped orchestrate the hit that ended Fulio's life. Here's what

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we learned this week. Opening statements painted two very different pictures.

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Prosecutor Scott Harmon told jurors the accused killer unleashed a

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hellish onslaught On folio said Andrew's coordinated travel and lodging

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that laid the groundwork for a calculated ambush. She allegedly

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sent a message Friday night asking Hey, could I book

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an Airbnb in Tampa. That message, prosecutors say, was the

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first move in a deadly chain of events. Then came

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the cell phone data. Investigators tracked Andrews and Chance as

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they drove roughly two hundred miles from Jacksonville to Tampa.

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Their cell phones are tracking hitting towers as they travel

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in Unison all the way down I seventy five, heading

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directly into Tampa. Prosecutors told the jury the prosecution's theory.

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Andrews and Chance acted as lookouts, tracking Fulio to two

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nightclubs before he ended up at a hotel. The three

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alleged shooters, Rashad Murphy, Davy and Murphy and Sean Gathwright,

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got out of their car and opened fire in the

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hotel parking lot. Folio died three others were injured. Defence,

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they want you to know about domestic violence. Andrews's attorney

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tried to introduce evidence that she was being abused by

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her boyfriend Isaiah Chance, that she was scared of him,

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that she wasn't making these decisions freely. Problem Judge Michelle

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Cisco already ruled that domestic violence can't be used as

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a defense. Florida law is very clear. If you're charged

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with premeditated first degree murder, you can't claim duress. Doesn't matter.

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If your boyfriend was abusive, doesn't matter, if you were scared.

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Under the law, that's not a defense. To planning and

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executing a murder. So what did we hear this week?

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State witness eighteen, identity protected for safety reasons, testified Thursday

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that she'd known Andrews for more than a decade, once

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considered her one of her best friends. Said Andrews was

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dating Isaiah Chance for two to three years before the murder,

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knew he was affiliated with at K. Then came the

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text messages from January twenty twenty one, three years before

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the murder. Andrews and this friend were discussing the ongoing

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gang war, talked about how people like Fulio recruit people

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willing to die for them, and in those messages, Andrews

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expressed exactly how she felt about Juliofulio direct quote, he

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need to die three and a half years before he

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was murdered in Tampa. Defense tried to minimize this, pointed

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out there was no coded gang language, no specific murder

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plans in those texts acknowledged that many people mentioned in

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their conversations had died from gang violence, emphasizing that Folio

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had many enemies. But that text is now burned into

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the jury's mind. He need to die. And then three

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and a half years later, prosecutors say Andrews helped make

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it happen. We also heard from Tampa Police. Detective David

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Alverson testified about the investigation how officers responded to the

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home two suites after reports of a shooting, found pistol

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shell casings near the carport, located Fulio's body inside a

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Hyundai in the parking lot. University of South Florida police

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officer Michael Fusco testified that around four forty two am,

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while on a traffic stop, a vehicle pulled up reporting

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the shooting. That's how fast words spread. Then there's the aftermath.

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Andrew's co defendants fled the scene. One of them drove

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to his grandmother's house in Auburndale, Polk County, asked to

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borrow her Tan SUV for his power washing business because

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it was difficult to get equipment in and out of

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the black car. He was driving. That black car a

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Chevy Impala that Tampa Police had already flagged. An officer

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in Polk County conducted surveillance, spotted the Impala backing out

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of the driveway, stopped it with a female driver, waited

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for Tampa PD to arrive, and had it towed for

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a controlled search warrant execution. Day three brought dramatic arrest video.

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Georgia police officer Ji l. Vega took down one of

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the co defendants. Jury saw the whole thing, and here's

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the emotional parts. Friend mister Norris took the stand Wednesday

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and broke down while recounting those final moments. Said he

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was sleeping in the back of Fulio's Dodge charger parked

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in front of the Holiday Inn. Got woken up by

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loud noises. Initially thought they'd been in a car crash.

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The first thing I saw was Fulio laid out, Norris testified,

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fighting back tears. I thought it was a car accident

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until I looked up and saw the bullet holes, and

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I saw Xavier covered in blood yelling. They went inside

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the hotel trying to get help, but it was too late.

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Fulio was dead at twenty six years old. Now, let's

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talk about what makes this case particularly messy. Andrews isn't

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in a gang. Prosecutors admit that, but they're arguing she

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was the planner, the coordinator, the person who booked the

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Airbnb and tracked the victim. That even though she wasn't

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pulling triggers. She was essential to making this murder happen.

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And they have her boyfriend's phone pinging towers alongside hers

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the entire way from Jack'sville to Tampa. They have text

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messages from years earlier expressing hatred toward the victim. They

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have a gang war that's been raging since twenty eighteen

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as the motive. The defense wanted to argue she was

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a victim of domestic violence who was coerced into participating,

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but the judge said no, that's not a valid legal

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defense to premeditated murder in Florida. So now they're stuck

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trying to convince a jury that she wasn't really involved,

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or that she didn't know what was happening, or that

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she didn't have the specific intent required for first degree murder.

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It's an uphill battle. Prosecutors aren't seeking the death penalty

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against Andrews, but her four co defendants are facing that possibility.

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Those cases are scheduled for spring twenty twenty six. The

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trial continues this week. We're watching to see if Andrews

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takes the stand in her own defense, always a risky move,

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but sometimes necessary when your defense has been gutted by

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pre trial rulings. Fulio's mother has been vocal about wanting

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justice for her son. Said she asked him to stop

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rapping amid all the violence. He didn't listen or couldn't listen.

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When you're that deep in a gang war, walking away

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isn't always an option. Twenty six years old, birthday weekend

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in Tampa. Never made at home. Justice isn't always fast,

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but it's always riveting. Welcome back to celebrity trials. Our

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second case, New Hampshire versus Dustin Durhan And if you

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thought the Juliofulio case was complicated, this one is equally disturbing,

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but for completely different reasons. Dustin Duran, thirty eight years old,

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is on trial for second degree murder, reckless conduct with

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a deadly weapon, and child endangerment. He shot and killed

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Caitlin Nafzger thirty one years old, mother of his two children,

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on February twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. Then he took

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their daughters, aged four and one, and drove one hundred

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seventy miles before being arrested in an Applebee's parking lot

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in Keene, New Hampshire. The Amber alert that went out

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that day made national news. Civilian spotted Duran's white Subaru,

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called nine one one followed him into the restaurant parking lot.

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Police responded with guns drawn. Body camera footage shows the takedown.

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Both girls were found safe inside the vehicle. Now Durn

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is on trial, and this week he took the stand

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in his own defense. Always a bold move, often a

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disastrous one. Opening statements set the stage. Prosecutor Joshua Spiker

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told the jury this is a case about anger, anger

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and control. Said Durn ripped away one of their daughters

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from Nafzger before firing a single shot that killed her.

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The defense painted it differently. Attorney Hannah Kinney said it

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was a tragedy but not a crime, that Durn believed

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his daughter was being held hostage, that as a marine

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veteran with PTSD, he was reacting to a threat toward

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his beloved daughter. Let's be clear about what we know happened.

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February twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, Duran and Nafziger were

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at his apartment in Berlin, New Hampshire. They'd been in

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an on again, off again relationship since twenty nineteen. Two

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daughters together lots of custody disputes. He claimed she'd threatened

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multiple times to take the kids away from him permanently.

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That night, according to testimony, there was an argument. Duran

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later told police it was about money and taxes, said

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Nafziger was threatening to claim he'd kidnap their older daughter,

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threatening to call police and have him arrested. What happened

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next is not disputed. Duran pulled their daughter away from Nafzinger,

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held the child, and shot Nafzger once in the head.

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The bullet went in one side of her head and

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out the other, he later told police. Durhan admitted in

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his police interview that when he pulled the trigger, Nafziger

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was not threatening him or his daughter. Said the shooting

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was done deliberately, said he tried to shield his daughter

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from seeing it. After killing Nafzigger, Durren knew he was

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screwed his words, talked about wanting to spend time with

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the kids before turning himself in. Instead, he put both

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girls in the car and drove Around ten thirty pm,

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Berlin police responded to the apartment and found Nafziger's body,

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single gunshot wound to the head. Homicide. The next morning,

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an Amber alert went out for the two girls. Caroline

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Campbell and her daughter were driving when they saw the

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white Subaru from the alert. We proceeded up a hill

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and my daughter says, here comes a white Subaru, Campbell testified.

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I said, that's it, that's the car. They called nine

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one one followed Durrenn police descended on the Applebee's parking lot.

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Body camera video shows the arrest, guns drawn, officers ordering

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durren to open the door with one hand. Both children

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safe inside. Now here's where it gets complicated. Duran's father,

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Mark Duran, was one of the first witnesses, testified that

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he got a call from his wife early that morning.

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She'd heard from Dustin that he'd shot Caitlin. Mark Duran

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called police in Berlin, told them what happened. Those kids

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are now being raised by their grandparents. But the real

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drama came this week when Dustin Duran took the stand.

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He testified for hours about his relationship with Nafzger met

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her in twenty nineteen. She got pregnant in April twenty nineteen.

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Their first daughter, Ellewen, was born in December. He taught

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Nafziger to shoot a pistol for safety purposes. Interesting detail

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given how this ends. They planned to move to New

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Hampshire in August twenty twenty three when their lease expired,

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but when moving pods arrived, Durn discovered Nafziger had actually

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planned to go to Minnesota instead. She left with baby

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Valen for the airport without telling him, eventually convinced him

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to move to Minnesota to work things out. Once in Minnesota,

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they lived separately and shared custody. October twenty twenty three,

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Nafziger agreed to continue with the New Hampshire move. Duran

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would drive with Elowin and Nafziger would fly with Valen,

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but the custody disputes never stopped. Duran testified that Nafziger

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repeatedly threatened to take the kids away. Said he feared

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she would disappear with the girls. Described previous occasions when

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she'd taken one of their daughters without his knowledge. Here's

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what makes his testimony so problematic. He became emotional talking

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about his love for his children and his fear of

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losing them. Described feeling helpless when Nafziger would make threats

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about custody. The defense wants you to believe this was

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a father desperately trying to protect his daughters. But Duran

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already told police on the record in the interview they

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played for the jury that Nafziger was not threatening him

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or his daughter when he shot her, that it was

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done deliberately. So the defense is arguing self defense and

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protection of his child, but their own client admitted in

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his police interview that there was no immediate threat when

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he pulled the trigger. That's not self defense, that's not protection,

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that's murder. Durren also testified about his military background, deployments

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to Iraq and Afghanistan, service connected PTSD diagnosis, struggled with depression,

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and difficulty maintaining employment after leaving the Marines. The defense

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wants you to feel sympathy for a veteran with PTSD

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who was afraid of losing his children, and maybe there

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is sympathy to be had for someone struggling with mental

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health issues and custody disputes. But Caitlin Nafzigger is dead,

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thirty one years old, shot in the head while her

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one year old daughter was in the room, and Duran

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admitted he pulled the trigger deliberately when she wasn't threatening anyone.

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The prosecution played the full police interview for the jury.

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Detective Michael McLaughlin testified about taking Durrenn into custody, about

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the recorded confession about Duran saying he knew he was

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screwed after the shooting. Duran is scheduled to continue testifying

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this week. He'll face cross examination from prosecutors, and that's

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where this case will likely be won or lost, because

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right now he's admitted to deliberately killing the mother of

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his children when she wasn't threatening anyone, and his defense

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is asking a jury to believe he was acting in

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self defense. That's a very hard cell. The jury heard

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crime scene testimony, officers describing responding to the scene, finding

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the body, processing evidence, they saw the amber alert deployment,

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heard from the civilians who spotted Duran's car and called

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it in, watched body camera footage of the arrest, and

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now they're hearing from Duran himself trying to explain why

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shooting an unarmed woman in the head while holding his

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daughter was somehow justified. Here's the thing about self defense claims.

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You have to reasonably believe that you or someone else

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is in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.

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You have to have no other reasonable means of escaping

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that danger, and your response has to be proportional to

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the threat. Duran's own statement to put lease undercuts every

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element of that defense. No imminent threat, no danger to

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his daughter at that moment, just anger control and a

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custody dispute that he decided to end with a bullet.

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Prosecutors argue this was about rage about a man who

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couldn't control his girlfriend, couldn't control the custody situation, and

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decided to take ultimate control by pulling a trigger. Caitlin

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Nafzger's family wanted her to stay away from Duran. They'd

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planned for her to move to New Hampshire with the kids. Instead,

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she's dead and her daughters are growing up without their

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mother and Dustin. Duran is on trial for second degree murder,

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not first degree. Prosecutors would have to prove premeditation for that,

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but second degree still means he killed her with extreme

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indifference to the value of human life. Given his own

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admissions to police, that seems like an easy bar to clear.

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Trial continues this week. Cross examination of Duran will be critical.

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Closing arguments likely next week, and then a jury will

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decide whether a marine veteran with PTSD was protecting his

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daughter or whether he was a controlling man who murdered

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his ex girlfriend in front of their child. I know

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which way i'd vote, but that's why we have trials.

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Justice isn't always fast, but it's always riveting. Two trials,

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two defendants, two very different cases, but both fundamentally about

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control and violence. In Tampa, Alicia Andrews allegedly helped orchestrate

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a gang hit on a rapper during his birthday celebration.

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In New Hampshire, Dustin Duran allegedly shot his ex girlfriend

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and fled with their kids. Both cases are still unfolding.

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Both juries are still deliberating on the evidence, and we'll

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be here covering every development. Tomorrow. We're watching for updates

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from the Baldwin civil case. Prosecutors have moved to federal

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court seeking immunity. We'll break down what that means and

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whether it'll work until then. Remember, you don't have to

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be a celebrity going in, but you will be one

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when the verdict comes down. I'm read Carter, this is

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celebrity trials, your daily dose of courtroom drama, Stay safe

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out there, and maybe avoid birthday parties in Tampa and

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custody disputes in New Hampshire. See you tomorrow.