Dec. 4, 2025

"HAMLIN'S EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY, MANGIONE'S ANNIVERSARY & 'THE TRASHBAG KILLER' SEARCHES"

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Transcript

Reid Carter covers fiery Day 2 testimony as Denny Hamlin called NASCAR's charter agreement his team's "death certificate" and accused the league of dictating what drivers say publicly. Michael Jordan grinned as his co-owner went to verbal combat with NASCAR's attorney. Internal documents revealed executives panicked over a "LIV Golf-type" breakaway threat. One year ago today, Luigi Mangione allegedly assassinated UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson - pretrial hearings continue as defense fights to suppress the gun and manifesto. Brian Walsh trial Day 2: Massachusetts State Trooper testified about laptop searches including "The Trashbag Killer" serial killer research and "10 ways to dispose of a body."

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Callaroga Shark Media. Good morning, I'm reed Carter. Thursday, December fourth,

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twenty twenty five, One year ago Today, six forty five am, midtown, Manhattan.

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Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare, walking to the Hilton Hotel.

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A masked gunman approached from behind. Three shots. Thompson fell.

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The shooter fled on a bicycle. Today marks the one

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year anniversary of an assassination that shocked corporate America. Luigi

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Mangoni's pre trial hearings continue in Manhattan. His lawyers are

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fighting to throw out the gun and manifesto that could

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seal his fate. If they succeed, prosecutors lose their murder

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weapon and their motive. The hearings could extend through today's

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Grim anniversary. Charlotte, North Carolina, Day two of Michael Jordan

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versus NASCAR turned into a verbal slugfest. Denny Hamlin, three

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time Daytona five hundred winner and Jordan's co owner at

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twenty three eleven Racing, went to war with NASCAR's attorney

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for three and a half hours, called the twenty twenty

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five charter Agreement. Essentially my team's death certificate, said he

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tells fans what NASCAR wants him to say. That's my job.

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You give me talking points. I say it to make

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fans feel happy. Jordan sat in the front row, grinning

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as his driver unloaded on the France Family Empire and Dedham, Massachusetts.

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Day two of Brian Walsh's murder trial for the death

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of his wife Anna brought disturbing testimony about his laptop searches.

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A state trooper read through a binder of Google queries,

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including ten ways to dispose of a dead body and

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research on Patrick Kearney, a serial killer known as the

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trash Bag Killer. Walsh's defense says he panicked after finding

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his wife dead. Prosecutors say he planned her murder and

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dismembered her body. I'm read Carter today. Three trials, an

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anniversary of assassination, a driver declaring war on his own sport,

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and a husband whose search history reads like a murder manual.

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This is celebrity trials. Let's start in Charlotte, Western District

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of North Carolina. Michael Jordan versus NASCAR Day two. Yesterday

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we covered the explosive discovery documents, executives calling Hall of

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Fame owner's stupid rednecks who should be flogged Jordan disrupting

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jury selection just by existing Denny Hamlin breaking down crying

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about his dying father's sacrifices. Day two was different. Day

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two was war. Hamlin returned to the witness stand Tuesday morning,

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three and a half hours of testimony. The first part

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was direct examination by his own attorneys, but then came

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cross examination by NASCAR attorney Lawrence Butterman. That's when things

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got Hamlin openly showed his intense dislike for NASCAR, as

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Budermann tried to use the driver's own words against him.

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Start with Jim France, NASCAR's chairman and CEO, member of

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the family that founded the sport in nineteen forty eight.

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Hamlin testified he spotted France eating alone at lunch during

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NASCAR Awards Week in Nashville back in twenty twenty three,

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charter negotiations were ongoing. Hamlin was worried, so he joined

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France for lunch came away very very discouraged. France told

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Hamlin directly the problem in NASCAR as team spend too

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much money. Said team should only be spending ten million

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dollars per season. Current average is twenty million. Cut your

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costs in half. Hamlin told France that wasn't realistic. We've

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cut this grass so short, we're down to the dirt.

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Asked France how he could ever recoup his investment in

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the sport. France had no answer. The twenty twenty five

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charter agreement was so bad. Hamlin told the jury, we

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will not be in business if we sign this within

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ten years. This is essentially my team's death certificate for

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the future. NASCAR's attorney asked if bringing a lawsuit was

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the right response. I think it was the only decision,

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Hamlin said. It's time for change. All I knew is

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we were right and what they did was wrong. Then,

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Buttermann tried to weaponize Hamlin's own words. Showed the jury

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a pitch deck Hamlin presented to Michael Jordan before they

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formed twenty three to eleven Racing. The deck praised NASCAR's

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financial model, praise the next gen car that was supposed

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to cut costs, made the sports sound like a great investment.

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Hamlin had an answer. I believed NASCAR when they told

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me it would cut operating costs by forty percent. That

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never happened. He trusted the league. The league lied Butterman

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then showed clips from a podcast appearance where Hamlin praised

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the next gen car publicly, the the same car twenty

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three to eleven is now using as evidence of NASCAR's

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monopoly power. Hamlin fired back, all my public comments are

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out of context. What I do publicly is put out

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positive messages. That's my job. You give me talking points.

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I say it to make fans feel happy. Booterermann asked

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if that means people can't trust what Hamlin says publicly,

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that's nonsense. Hamlin shot back, but then he said the

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quiet part out loud. If he was negative publicly, you

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guys have an issue with that, and there would be

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repercussions at the racetrack. You're able to essentially dictate how

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I do. Make it make sense. NASCAR's star driver is

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testifying under oath that the league controls what drivers say publicly,

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that speaking negatively about NASCAR has consequences on the track,

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that every positive public statement is a talking point, not

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genuine enthusiasm. Twenty three eleven's profit margin two point two

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six percent. Hamlin said he's one sponsor away from having

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all this profit gone. His optimistic goal is to reach

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ten percent profit margin, that's the dream. But Budermann had

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ammunition too, showed the jury messages from Jordan's chief financial

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officer Gene Mason and co owner Curtis Polk, calling Hamlin

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a terrible businessman who spends money recklessly. Hamlin brushed it off,

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said it was their job to keep him in check.

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Me and Michael, we want to win. Michael Jordan, sitting

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in the front row, nodded and smiled throughout Hamlin's combative testimony.

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Jordan was visibly delighted, grinning, smirking, shaking his head, laughing.

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His driver was going to war with the France Family Empire,

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and Jordan loved every second. Boterman pressed on damages. Twenty

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three eleven is asking the jury for two hundred five

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million dollars a nine hundred percent return on Hamlin's ten

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million dollar investment. Isn't that excessive? Hamlin struggled to answer,

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said he'd leave financial questions to the experts, but his

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message was clear, we want to be made whole for

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what you guys did to us. The afternoon brought NASCAR

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executive Scott Prime to the stand, Executive vice president for strategy,

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the team's attorney Jeffrey Kessler began building his anti trust

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case using Prime's own internal memos. Showed the jury how

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NASCAR was concerned about a possible live golf type situation,

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a breakaway stock car series that could threaten their monopoly.

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Prime's strategy documents laid out options to counter that threat.

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One option strengthen relationships with Speedway Motorsports, the company that

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owns many of the major tracks. That relationship did strengthen.

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NASCAR's sanction agreement with Las Vegas Motor Speedway included a

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two year exclusivity clause extending beyond the contract term, meaning

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the track couldn't host any rival series until twenty six,

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exactly the window when a breakaway series would most likely form. Then,

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Kessler showed a document Prime prepared for a meeting with

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senior executives and Jim Franz. The document laid out two

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pathways forward Pathway one, NASCAR has all the leverage and

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the teams will almost have to sign the terms we

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put in front of them. Prime testified he disagreed with

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that approach, pushed for compromise. Other executives agreed with him.

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Kessler showed text messages from then NASCAR president Steve Phelps,

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citing a chart that had zero wins for teams. Then

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COO Steve O'Donnell texted that the lack of support for

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teams would result in a nineteen ninety eight f the

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team's dictatorship Redneck Southern Tiny Sport. Kessler argued Jim Frantz

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chose the first pathway anyway forced the agreement through despite

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his own executive's objections. Prime denied it, said progress had

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been made from my point of view where we land

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was strong for the teams, But when Kessler ran through

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the list of everything teams had asked for during negotiations,

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Prime had to admit NASCAR didn't ultimately concede on any

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of them. Prime's testimony continues today. Here's what's emerging. NASCAR's

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own documents show executives worried about their monopoly power being challenged.

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Their own texts show frustration with leadership treating teams poorly,

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their own strategy memos show plans to lock up tracks

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with exclusivity clauses, and their own star driver is testifying

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that the league controls public messaging and punishes dissent. Michael

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Jordan is betting two hundred five million dollars that a

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jury will see what he sees. A family empire that

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squeezes teams dry while calling them rednecks behind their backs,

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make it make sense. We'll be right back with the

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one year anniversary of Brian Thompson's assassination and Luigi Mangoni's

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ongoing fight to suppress the evidence against him. Welcome back

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to celebrity trials. I'm reed Carter December fourth, twenty twenty four,

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exactly one year ago today, Brian Thompson was fifty years old,

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CEO of United Healthcare, married father of two from Minnesota,

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walking to work on a cold December morning in Manhattan.

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Annual investor conference at the Hilton Hotel scheduled for later

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that day six forty five am. A masked figure approached

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from behind on West fifty fourth Street, raised a nine

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millimeter handgun shot Thompson in the back. Thompson fell to

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the sidewalk. The shooter fled on a bicycle disappeared into

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Central Park. Five days later, a cuss to mure at

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a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, thought a man eating breakfast

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looked like the suspect. She was right. Luigi Mangione was arrested,

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found with a gun, fake ID, and a notebook prosecutors

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say contains his manifesto. One year later, Mangioni is still

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fighting to keep that evidence from a jury. This week's

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pre trial hearings in Manhattan are focused on one question.

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Did police violate Mangioni's constitutional rights when they searched his backpack? Monday,

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prosecutors played surveillance footage the killing itself, which had aired publicly,

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but also new footage from inside the McDonald's body camera

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video from Pennsylvania officers the nine to one to one

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call from the restaurant manager. He looks like the suspect,

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she told dispatchers. I can only see his eyebrows because

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he's wearing a beanie and a medical face mask. Mangione

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sat stoically in court, gray suit, checkered shirt. Court officers

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removed his handcuffs so he could take notes. He pressed

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a finger to his lips as he watched himself get arrested.

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The defense argument is straightforward. Police searched Mangione's backpack without

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a warrant. An officer was heard on body camera saying

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she was checking to make sure there wasn't a bomb

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in the bag. Mangoni's lawyers call that an excuse designed

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to cover up an illegal warrantless search. If the judge agrees,

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the gun and notebook get thrown out. Prosecutors lose the

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weapon that allegedly killed Thompson, lose the writings where Mangioni

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allegedly described wanting to whack a health insurance executive, lose

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the passages praising Ted Kaczinski, Lose the references to the

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deadly greed fueled health insurance cartel. The defense also wants

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to suppress statements Mangioni made before being read his Miranda rights.

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When officers asked for identification, he allegedly said his name

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was Mark Rosario, same fake name prosecutors say he used

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to check into a Manhattan hostile days before the killing.

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Hearings are expected to last more than a week. More

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than two dozen witnesses could be called. Court officials say

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testimony could extend through today's one year anniversary of the murder.

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Mangoni faces separate state and federal charges. State charges carry

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life in prison. Federal prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

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Neither trial has been scheduled yet a few dozen Mangoni

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supporters watched Monday's hearing from the back of the courtroom.

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One wore a green shirt that said, without a warrant,

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it's not a search, it's a violation. Another woman held

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a Luigi video game character doll. There are people who

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think Luigi Mangioni is a hero, who romanticize what he

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allegedly did, who treat him like a vigilante fighting a

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corrupt health care system. But Brian Thompson was a person

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fifty years old, husband, father, shot in the back while

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walking to work. No trial, no jury, no defense, just

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execution on a Manhattan sidewalk. The healthcare system may have problems,

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valid problems, problems that anger millions of Americans, But murder

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isn't activism. It's terrorism. And whatever constitutional arguments Mangioni's lawyers

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make this week, the fundamental fact remains a man is dead,

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shot from behind on his way to work. Brian Thompson

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should be alive today, should be with his family, should

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be celebrating the holidays. Instead, we mark the one year

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anniversary of his murder while his alleged killer fights to

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suppress the evidence against him. Rest in peace, Brian, Someone

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has to say your name coming up the trash bag

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killer Brian Walsh's laptop searches take center stage as prosecutors

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walk jurors through his alleged murder manual. Welcome back to

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celebrity trials. I'm reed. Carter Dedham, Massachusetts Norfolk Superior Court,

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Commonwealth versus Brian Walsh. Day two yesterday we covered opening statements.

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The prosecution's theory. Brian Walsh murdered his wife Anna on

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New Year's Day twenty twenty three, dismembered her body, and

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spent days trying to cover up the crime. His Google

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searches tell the story best way to dispose of a body,

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how to dismember? Is it possible to clean DNA off

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a knife? The defense theory. Anna just died suddenly in bed.

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Brian panicked, found her body after a New Year's Eve party,

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started googling in a state of shock. Never murdered anyone.

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Day two brought the receipts literally. Massachusetts State Police Trooper

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Nicolas Guarno took the stand. Forensic analyst testified about data

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extracted from Walsh's MacBook laptop, read through a binder of

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Google searches that prosecutors say prove premeditation. January first, twenty

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twenty three, the day Anna allegedly died, the searches began

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ten ways to dispose of a dead body. If you

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really need to best way to dispose of a body,

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How long does DNA last? How long for a dismembered

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body to decompose? Guarino testified about each search one by one,

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time stamps you are else the digital footprint of what

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prosecutors call a calculated killer. But it got worse. Walsh

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also searched for Patrick Kearney. Who's Patrick Kearney? A serial

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killer known as the trash bag Killer, active in California

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in the nineteen seventies, murdered at least twenty one young men,

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dismembered their bodies, stuffed the remains in trash bags, dumped

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them along highways. Ian Walsh was researching the trash bag

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Killer the day after his wife went missing January Tewond

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brought more searches how to remove a hard drive from

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an Apple laptop. Walsh was trying to cover his digital

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tracks too late. The searches were already SYNCD. Here's the

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technical detail that sank Walsh. His laptop shared an Apple

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account with his young son's iPad. When police asked Walsh

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about disturbing searches found on the child's tablet, Walsh said,

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I don't use that iPad, so that's really weird. But

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the searches weren't made on the iPad. They were made

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on Walsh's laptop and sinked automatically. The iPad was just

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a mirror showing what daddy was googling. The jury also

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heard recordings of Walsh's interviews with police in the days

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after Anna was reported missing. He was asked if he'd

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ever hurt his wife. No, I would never do that,

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Walsh said in the recording. My wife and I got

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along very very well. My whole family wouldn't work without

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my wife. I would never hurt my wife. I mean

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I love her. Police asked where he thought she might be.

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Walsh suggested the SPA. Said she had no issues at work.

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Everyone loves Anna. Then came the January eighth interview. Former

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state trooper Michael Proctor confronted Walsh about the searches, how

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to get blood out of hardwood floors, how to dispose

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of a body in the trash, how to stop a

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body from decomposing, How do you explain that. Proctor asked,

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I don't Walsh said, I have no idea. He was

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arrested shortly after. Cohasset Police Sergeant Harrison Schmidt continued his

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testimony from day one. Described items recovered from dumpsters where

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investigators believe Walsh disposed of evidence, Anna's COVID nineteen vaccination card,

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her hunter boots, a black coat, a hatchet, a hack

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saw with DNA linking to both Anna and Brian. The

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jury saw photos of a cut on Walsh's thumb the

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day he was a rare, the kind of cut you

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might get from handling sharp tools. Schmidt also testified about

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a bizarre ransom email. Days after Anna was reported missing,

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an email arrived from someone named Richard Walker, claiming to

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be holding Anna for ransom. Wanted one hundred twenty seven

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thousand dollars. If she doesn't pay the money, then she

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will never be back. Investigators trace the email geolocated to Nigeria,

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a scam artist in Africa trying to profit from a

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missing person's case. Prosecutors aren't alleging Walsh sent it, just

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another layer of chaos in a case full of disturbing details.

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Under cross examination, defense attorney Larry Tipton, worked to poke holes,

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pointed out that police found no evidence Walsh ever saw

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the Facebook messages between Anna and William Fastow, the man

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she was having an affair with. If Walsh didn't know

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about the affair, that undermines the motive theory. Tipton also

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noted that dark searches weren't found on Walsh's devices before

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j January first, twenty twenty three. If Walsh planned the murder,

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why no research beforehand? The defense theory Walsh didn't plan anything.

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He found his wife dead, panicked, started googling in a

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desperate attempt to figure out what to do. But here's

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what the defense can't explain. Walsh already pleaded guilty to

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improperly disposing of Anna's body and misleading police. He admits

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he got rid of her remains, admits he lied to investigators.

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The only question is whether he killed her or found

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her already dead. A wife dies suddenly in bed with

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no apparent cause. Husband's first instinct is to google how

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to dismember a body and research a serial killer known

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for stuffing victims in trash bags. Then spend days buying

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hack saws and hatchets and cleaning supplies, then throw the

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tools in dumpsters near his mother's apartment. That's the panic defense.

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That's what the jury has to believe to acquit. Testimony

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continues today. Uber Lift and Jet Blue representatives are expected.

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They'll test about Anna's travel records or lack thereof, because

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prosecutors say she never got on that flight to Washington,

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never left the house alive. Anna Walsh was thirty nine

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years old, Serbian immigrant real estate executive, mother of three

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young children who are now in state custody. Her body

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has never been found, but the tools allegedly used to

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dismember her were recovered from the trash with her DNA

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on them. Someone has to say her name. Anna Walsh,

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thirty nine years old, gone