Aug. 7, 2025

"FIREFIGHTER SERIAL KILLER & THE MOM WHO TEXTED MURDER: 4 Dead in Oregon, Mother's Evil Messages"

"FIREFIGHTER SERIAL KILLER & THE MOM WHO TEXTED MURDER: 4 Dead in Oregon, Mother's Evil Messages"

Reid Carter exposes Oregon serial killer Jesse Lee Calhoun, who got early release for fighting wildfires then allegedly murdered four women, scattering their bodies across two states. The firefighter-turned-predator targeted vulnerable women with addiction issues, including one who'd reported him for choking her months before her death. Plus, the shocking Florida trial of Sheila Agee, who allegedly texted her teenage son into murdering his baby's mother at Home Depot over an STD, calling him a "motherfing bh" if he didn't kill. Text messages reveal a mother coaching murder while Brooklyn Sims died from 29 gunshot wounds.

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Callaroga Shark Media. Good morning, I'm Read Carter, and welcome

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to celebrity Trials. You know what's worse than a serial killer?

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A serial killer who uses heroism as a get out

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of jail free card. Today we're exposing Jesse Lee Calhoun,

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the Oregon monster who helped fight wildfires to get early

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release from prison, then allegedly celebrated his freedom by murdering

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at least four women. And if that's not enough to

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make your blood boil, wait until you hear about the

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Florida mother who texted her teenage son into becoming a

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murderer over an STD Let's start with the predator who

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turned prison firefighting into a hunting license. The firefighter serial

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killer Jesse Lee Calhoun is the kind of monster who

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makes you question every feel good story about prison rehabilitation.

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This thirty nine years old piece of garbage was serving

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time for assaulting a police officer, trying to strangle a

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police dog, and burglary. But in twenty twenty, when Oregon

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was burning, Calhoun joined the prison firefighting program. You know

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the story, inmates risk their lives fighting wildfires, show they've

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changed get early release. It's supposed to be redemptive, heroic.

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Even Governor Kate Brown thought so. She commuted his sentence

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in twenty twenty one, letting him out a year early

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as a reward for his firefighting service. Big mistake, because

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between February and May twenty twenty three, four young women

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ended up dead, their bodies scattered across northwest Oregon and

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into Washington State. And guess who police were looking at,

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our heroic firefighter the victim's charity. Lynn Perry twenty four,

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bridget Leanne Webster thirty one, Joanna Speaks thirty two, Kristin

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hi Smith twenty two. Four women in their twenties and

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early thirties, all struggling with addiction or mental health issues,

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all vulnerable, all dead. Their bodies were found in wooded areas,

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in culverts, under bridges, scattered across a one hundred mile radius.

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Like trash. Speaks was found in an abandoned barn in

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Washington State, but investigators believe she was killed in Portland.

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These women were disposed of like they meant nothing. And

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here's what really burns me. Ashley Reel, another twenty two

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year old whose body was found in May twenty twenty three,

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had actually reported Calhoun to police in November twenty twenty two,

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he choked her. She gave police his name, but she

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was too scared to help them track him down. Six

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months later, she was dead. Her father, jose Real, has

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to live with that knowledge. His daughter identified her future

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killer to police, but fear kept her from following through.

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The system failed ashleig Real, just like it failed these

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other women when it let Calhoun out early. Governor Tina

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Kotek had to revoke his commutation in twenty twenty three

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when police started connecting him to the murders, but by

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then it was too late. Four women were already dead,

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maybe five. They're still investigating Ashley Rial's death. Last year,

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just weeks before he was due to be released from

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prison again, a grand jury finally indicted Calhoun for three murders.

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This week, they added Kristin Smith to the list, four

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counts of second degree murder, four counts of abuse of

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a corpse. Trial set for twenty twenty seven. Twenty twenty seven,

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These families have to wait two more years for justice

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while this monster sits in the Moltnoma County Inverness jail,

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probably reliving his crimes. You know what kills me. The

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Portland Police initially said speculation about a serial killer wasn't

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supported by the facts. It took them from February to

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July twenty twenty three to admit the deaths were linked.

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How many women had to die before they connected the dots.

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The warning signs were there. Let's talk about what we

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know about Jesse Lee Calhoun before he became a serial killer.

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This wasn't some guy who snapped. This was a violent

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criminal who escalated assaulting a police officer. That shows contempt

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for authority. Trying to strangle a police dog. That's psychopathic.

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The dog is just doing its job and this monster

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tries to kill it with his bare hands. That's not

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normal criminal behavior. That's someone who enjoys inflicting pain on

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living things. And we gave him early release because he

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fought fires. Here's the thing about prison programs. They're supposed

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to reward good behavior and rehabilitation, but some people can't

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be rehabilitated. Some people are just pretending, going through the motions,

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saying the right things, all while planning their next crime.

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Calhoun played the system perfectly. Be a model inmate, fight fires,

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risk your life for the greater good. Get that commutation,

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then go hunting. The families of these women have been

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waiting for answers. Diana Allen, Charity Perry's mother, said, the

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detectives cared more about justice for Charity than they did

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for my feelings. That's a mother trying to find something

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positive in the worst experience of her life. Melissa Smith,

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Kristin's mother, was overwhelmed with emotion when they finally indicted

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Calhoun for her daughter's murder. She'd been waiting two and

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a half years to hear those words. I've always stayed

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hopeful that I would get justice for Kristen, she said.

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I thank every single person who didn't give up on

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this case. But here's my question. Why did it take

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so long? Why did we need four bodies before anyone

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took this seriously? Why did Ashley Reel have to die

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when she'd already had identified Calhoun as violent? Back in

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a moment, welcome back to celebrity trials, I'm Red Carter.

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And if you thought the Oregon serial killer was bad,

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wait until you hear about the Florida mother who turned

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her teenage son into a murderer with text messages and taunts.

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Sheila Age is on trial right now in Pensacola for

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allegedly encouraging her eighteen year old son Keith to murder

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his ex girlfriend, eighteen year old Brooklyn Sims. And when

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I say encouraging, I mean she texted him calling him

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a motherfucking bitch if he didn't kill the mother of

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his child. Let that sink in a mother calling her

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son a coward for not committing murder. Here's what happened.

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On August eleventh, twenty twenty three. Keith Agy was at

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work in Alabama when he got a call from a

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medical office. He tested positive for an STD He'd had

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sex with Brooklyn about two weeks earlier, and now he

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was infected. Keith was furious. He left work, went home,

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grabbed his nine millimeter glock, and started driving to the

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home depot in Pensacola where Brooklyn worked. And where did

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Brooklyn work, right alongside Keith's mother, Sheila. But here's where

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this case goes from bad to evil. Keith didn't just

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decide to kill Brooklyn on his own. Throughout that morning,

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he was texting with mommy dearest. The text messages are horrifying.

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Starting at eight forty am. Mother and son are texting

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about killing Brooklyn. Sheila calls Keith an m F bitch

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if he doesn't go through with it. She tells him

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to kill Brooklyn at their workplace so his two year

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old child doesn't have to witness daddy murdering Mommy. How thoughtful.

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She warns him not to do it in her work

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vehicle because apparently murder is fine, but don't get blood

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in mom's car. Keith even pulled over on the interstate

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in Alabama to think about whether he should continue. He

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texted Mom. She kept pushing. At one twenty one pm,

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Keith walked into that home depot. He found Brooklyn in

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Ale fifty two counting inventory with her coworkers. He tapped

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her on the shoulder. When she turned around, he said,

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you gave me something. Brooklyn's response, not this again. She

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tried to walk away. That's when Keith pulled out his

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gun and shot her multiple times in front of her

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co workers, in front of customers. Seven shell casings recovered

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twenty nine gunshot wounds on her body, some showing close

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range firing. Brooklyn Simms died on Ile fifty two of

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a home depot Because a boy couldn't handle getting an

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STD and his mother turned his anger into murder. Keith

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Ag ran from that store like the coward he is.

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He threw his gun out the car window, abandoned his

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car at a medical facility, and wandered through the woods

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before calling nine to one one to turn himself in.

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I made a mistake, he told the operator. A mistake. No, Keith,

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forgetting to set your alarm is a mistake. Shooting the

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mother of your child twenty nine times is murder. At

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his trial in December twenty twenty three, Keith took the stand.

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He admitted everything, told the jury I've never been so

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mad in my life. The prosecutor nailed it. This is

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not about an SDT, This is about his pride. The

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jury convicted him of first degree murder. The judge sentenced

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him to life in prison and told him he'd thrown

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his life away. Keith was twenty years old. Now he'll

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die in prison. But Mommy's trial is just getting started.

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The mother from Hell, Sheila AG's trial began this week

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and it's all ready a disaster. Her first trial in

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November twenty twenty four ended in a mistrial because jurors

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were concerned for their physical safety. One juror was caught

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playing crossword puzzles during deliberations. This time, prosecutors came out swinging.

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They showed the jury those text messages. They called sixteen

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witnesses in one day, including many from Keith's trial. They

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played the nine to one one calls, showed the surveillance footage,

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presented the autopsy photos the defense. They claimed Sheila was

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just trying to diffuse a blustering teenager who was all talk.

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They say, this is how mother and son normally communicated. Really,

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calling your son a mother fucking bitch for not committing

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murder is normal communication. Telling him where to kill someone

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so the baby doesn't see, that's maternal advice. David Ackerman,

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Sheila's lawyer, says the state has no evidence she was complicit.

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No evidence. How about the text messages planning the murder.

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How about working at the same store and knowing exactly

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when and where Brooklyn would be. How about continuing to

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text and taunt until her son pulled that trigger. Here's

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what really gets me. Sheila Agy wasn't some stranger egging

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on violence. She was Brooklyn's co worker. She saw this

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girl every day, knew she was the mother of her grandchild,

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and she still pushed her son to kill her. Co

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workers testified that Sheila was acting strange that day, not

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giving proper instructions. You think she knew what was coming.

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She knew her son was on his way with a gun,

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and she did nothing to warn anyone. Brooklyn Simms was

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eighteen years old. She had a two year old child

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who will now grow up without a mother. She was

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described by coworkers as always happy, always smiling. She was

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just trying to work her shift at home depot when

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her child's father executed her. And it all started with

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text messages from a mother who should have been the

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voice of reason, not the voice of murder. You know what,

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Both of today's cases prove evil comes in many forms.

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Jesse Lee Calhoun played hero fighting fires while planning to

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become a serial killer. He used his early release to

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hunt vulnerable women, leaving their bodies scattered like garbage across

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Oregon in Washington, the system rewarded him with freedom, and

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he repaid it with murder. Sheila Aggy corrupted her own son,

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turning teenage anger into homicide with text messages and taunts.

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She could have been the adult, the voice of reason.

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The mother who says, son, you're hurt and angry, but

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violence isn't the answer. Instead, she became his murder coach.

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Four women are dead in Oregon because we believed a

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violent criminal had reformed. Brooklyn Sims is dead in Florida

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because a mother chose murder over morality. Remember this, Not

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everyone can be rehabilitated. Some people are just evil wearing

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a mask. And sometimes the most dangerous person in your

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life life is the one who's supposed to protect you.

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I'm read Carter with celebrity trials, lock your doors, watch

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for warning signs, and for God's sake, if someone's pushing

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you toward violence, run the other way. Justice isn't always fast,

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but karma has a long memory. Jesse Lee Calhoun and

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Sheila Age are learning that the hard way. And see

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you tomorrow.