Oct. 4, 2025
BONUS - 8 Days of. O.J. - "THE AFTERMATH: What O.J. Wrought - How One Verdict Changed Everything"
Reid Carter concludes the O.J. series examining thirty years of aftermath from the verdict that divided America. The immediate chaos that followed acquittal, O.J.'s promise to find "real killers" on golf courses, and the Dream Team's fractures. The civil trial where different rules meant different justice. The fates of every key player - Clark's retreat, Darden's breakdown, Cochran's death, Ito's ridicule, Kato's eternal fifteen minutes, Fuhrman's conviction and redemption. O.J.'s Vegas robbery, imprisonment, and 2024 death from cancer. Most importantly, how October 3rd, 1995 created the celebrity justice playbook that Robert Blake, Phil Spector, and Casey Anthony would follow. The template that taught famous defendants how to escape consequences.
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Caalerogus Shark Media. This is Reed Carter. Saturday, October fourth,
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twenty twenty five, the bonus episode of Eight Days of OJ.
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Yesterday marked thirty years since the verdict that changed everything.
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Thirty years since OJ Simpson walked free after murdering Nicole
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Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. Thirty years since America learned
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that celebrity justice works differently than regular justice. But October third,
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nineteen ninety five wasn't the end of the story. It
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was the beginning, the beginning of a new era where
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celebrities accused of serious crimes had a playbook to follow,
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the beginning of true crime as entertainment, the beginning of
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the understanding that fame plus money plus the right lawyer's
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equals immunity from consequences. Today, we examine what happened after
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the cameras stopped rolling, happened to OJ Simpson in the
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nearly thirty years between his acquittal and his death, what
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happened to everyone else whose lives were changed by those
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four hours of jury deliberation. Most importantly, we examine what
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OJ's acquittal wrought on American justice, how it created the
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template every celebrity defendant has studied since how it taught
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famous people that you don't need to be innocent to
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be acquitted. You just need to be famous enough, and
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rich enough and smart enough to hire the right lawyers.
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I'm read Carter. This is the bonus episode of Eight
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Days of OJ. Welcome to thirty years of living with
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the consequences of the most wrong verdict in American legal history.
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October third, nineteen ninety five, ten oh one am Pacific time,
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One minute after the verdict that shocked the world, the
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courtroom is chaos. OJ's family is celebrating, His lawyers are
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embracing the dream team has pulled off the impossible, freeing
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a guilty client through superior storytelling and jury manipulation. But
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outside the courthouse, America is processing what just happened in
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very different ways. The split screen that defined the verdict.
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Reaction is burned into our national memory. Black Americans celebrating
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in the streets, in offices, in schools, dancing, cheering, applauding
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what they see as justice finally being served to a
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black man by a corrupt system. White Americans sitting in
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stunned silence, unable to process how overwhelming evidence of guilt
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could be ignored so completely, unable to understand how DNA
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evidence and blood evidence and timeline evidence could be explained
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away by contamination theories and police misconduct claims. Both reactions
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were understandable. Black Americans had watched the LAPD abuse their
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community for decades. They'd seen innocent people framed guilty, cops protected,
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and a justice system that worked differently depending on your
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skin color and bank account. Ojay's equips felt like payback
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for generations of injustice. White Americans had watched eight months
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of evidence that proved Ojay's guilt beyond any reasonable doubt.
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They'd seen science and facts and proof get ignored in
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favor of conspiracy theories and racial politics. Ojay's acquittal felt
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like the system had broken down completely. But what nobody
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understood on October third, nineteen ninety five was that this
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verdict would create a template, a blueprint for how celebrities
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could escape consequences in America, a playbook that would be
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studied and copied and refined by every famous defendant who followed.
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The immediate aftermath was surreal. Los Angeles had been preparing
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for riots if Ojy was convicted. Police were on high alert,
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The National Guard was ready. Everyone expected the kind of
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violence that had followed the Rodney King verdict in nineteen
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ninety two. Instead, there was celebration. Black Americans weren't rioting.
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They were rejoicing. The verdict they'd hoped for had actually happened.
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The system had worked in their favor for once, even
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if it meant a guilty man went free. But the
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riots that didn't happen revealed something important about October third,
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nineteen ninety five. This wasn't really about O. J. Simpson's
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guilt or innocence. This was about decades of racial injustice
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finding expression through one celebrity trial. This was about communities
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that had been failed by the system finally seeing it
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fail someone else. The problem was that the someone else
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was actually guilty. The system didn't fail O J. Simpson.
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It failed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. The injustice
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wasn't Ojay's prosecution, it was his acquittal. Within hours of
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the verdict, Ojy was back at his Rockingham mansion, free
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to play golf, sign autographs, and live the life of
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a celebrity who'd beaten the system. He promised to dedicate
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his life to finding the real killers of Nicole and Ron. Instead,
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he dedicated his life to golf courses, nightclubs, and pretending
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he was the victim in this story. The real killers,
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of course, were never found because O. J. Simpson was
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the real killer, but he'd convinced twelve jurors and millions
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of Americans that racist cops had framed him for murders
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he didn't commit, so he had to maintain that fiction,
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even though everyone who looked at the evidence objectively knew
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it was a lie. The Dream Team's victory lap was
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immediate and extensive. Johnny Cochrane became the most famous defense
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attorney in America. He was invited to speak at law schools,
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write books, and take on high profile clients who wanted
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their own version of the race card defense. But the
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Dream Team also began fracturing almost immediately. Robert Shapiro distanced
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himself from Cochrane's racial appeals, saying he was embarrassed by
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the way race had dominated the trial. F Lee Bailey
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and Alan Dershowitz started feuding over credit for the victory.
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Barry Scheck tried to maintain his scientific credibility while acknowledging
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his role in helping a murderer escape justice. Even in victory,
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the dream team couldn't stay together because, deep down, I
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think they all knew what they'd really accomplished. They hadn't
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freed an innocent man, they'd freed a guilty one. They
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hadn't served justice, they'd perverted it. They hadn't won through
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superior legal analysis. They'd won through superior manipulation of racial
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tensions and jury prejudices. But October third, nineteen ninety five
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also began the civil case, and in civil court, with
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different rules and different standards and a different jury, the
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same evidence would tell a very different story. The civil
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trial February nineteen ninety seven, eighteen months after Ojy's criminal acquittal,
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the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman got
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their second chance at justice, the civil trial for wrongful death,
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where the burden of proof was lower and the defendant
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couldn't hide behind the Fifth Amendment. This time, Ojay had
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to testify. He couldn't sit silently at the defense table
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while his lawyers performed for the cameras. He had to
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answer questions under oath about his whereabouts, his actions, his
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relationship with Nicole, and his role in the murders, and
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he was terrible, evasive, defensive contradictory. He claimed he'd never
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owned Bruno Magley's shoes, despite being photographed wearing them. He
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insisted he'd never hit Nicole despite evidence of repeated domestic violence.
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He maintained his innocence despite being unable to explain how
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his blood got to the crime scene. The civil jury
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looked at the same evidence the criminal jury had seen
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and reached the obvious conclusion. February fifth, nineteen ninety seven, O. J.
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Simpson was found liable for the wrongful deaths of Nicole
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Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. The jury awarded thirty three
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point five million dollars in damages. This verdict was the
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justice that should have been delivered in nineteen ninety five.
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The recognition that OJ Simpson was responsible for two brutal murders,
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the acknowledgment that the victim's families deserved accountability even if
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they couldn't get criminal conviction. But civil liability isn't criminal justice.
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Money damages aren't prison sentences. The civil verdict proved what
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everyone already knew. OJ killed Nicole and ron but it
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couldn't undo the travesty of October third, nineteen ninety five.
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OJ spent years avoiding payment of the civil judgment. He
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moved to Florida, where his pension and homestead were protected
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from creditors. He hid assets, claimed poverty, and did everything
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possible to avoid compensating the families whose lives he'd destroyed.
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Even when he was finally held accountable in civil court,
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OJ found ways to avoid the consequences. He proved that
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being rich and famous means having options that regular people
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don't have. Even after being found liable for murder, the
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key player's fates. The OJ trial changed everyone it touched,
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and not always for the better. Let me walk you
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through what happened to each of the major players in
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the trial of the century. Marcia Clark, the prosecutor who
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should have convicted the most obvious murderer in American history,
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never recovered professionally. She resigned from the DA's office in
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nineteen ninety seven, wrote a book about the trial, and
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largely retreated from public life. She'd spent eight months presenting
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overwhelming evidence of guilt and watched it get ignored by
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a jury that cared more about police racism than murder evidence.
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Clark had been criticized for everything during the trial, her hair,
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her clothes, her courtroom demeanor. The media treated her more
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like a fashion model than a prosecutor. She'd prosecuted the
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most important case of her career while being judged on
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her appearance rather than her arguments. But Clark's real tragedy
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was that she'd been right about everything. O. Jay was guilty.
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The evidence proved it, the DNA reliable, the timeline was accurate,
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the blood evidence was devastating. She'd presented the most conclusive
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murder case in legal history and lost because the jury
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didn't want to convict. Christopher Darden never recovered either. He'd
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been brought onto the prosecution team to provide racial balance
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against Johnny Cochrane, and he'd made the single worst prosecutorial
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decision in American legal history, asking OJ to try on
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the gloves. Darden left the DA's office in nineteen ninety six,
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tried private practice, taught law school, and spent decades knowing
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that his mistake had helped a murderer escape justice. He'd
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handed OJ Simpson his acquittal with those gloves and no
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amount of explaining about leather shrinkage or latex interference could
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undo that catastrophe. But I think Darden's real failure wasn't
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the glove demonstration. It was taking the case personally. He
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saw Cochrane's racial appeals as attax on his own credibility
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as a black pro prosecutor. He led a motion override
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judgment and emotion is how you lose cases you should win.
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Johnny Cochran became the most famous defense attorney in America
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after the trial. He capitalized on his OJ victory to
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build a practice representing celebrities and other high profile defendants.
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He turned if it doesn't fit, you must acquit into
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the most famous phrase in legal history. But Cochrane's victory
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came with a cost. He'd won by exploiting racial tensions
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and police misconduct rather than proving his client's innocence. He'd
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sent a guilty man home to freedom and created a
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template for future celebrity defendants to follow. Cochrane died in
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two thousand and five of brain cancer, ten years after
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his greatest legal victory. He never acknowledged that OJ was
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actually guilty, but I think he knew deep down. I
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think they all knew. Judge Lance Edo became a punchline
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after the trial. His inability to control his courtroom, his
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obsession with television cameras, his emotional breakdown over Mark Furman's
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comments about his wife. All of it made him a
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symbol of judicial incompetence. It overturned to obscurity after the trial,
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serving out his career on the Los Angeles Superior Court
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bench while avoiding high profile cases. He'd presided over the
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most watched trial in American history and proved that fame
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doesn't equal competence. The trial turned Itto into a celebrity judge,
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but it also revealed that he cared more about being
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a celebrity than being a judge. His courtroom became a
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television studio, and justice suffered for the ratings. Kato'calin somehow
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turned being a useless witness into a thirty year career
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in entertainment. He parlayed his fifteen minutes of fame into
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reality TV appearances, talk show segments, and celebrity endorsements. He
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became famous for being famous, the ultimate beneficiary of the
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trial's transformation into entertainment. But Kato's real legacy is cowardice.
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He could have been the witness who convicted o j. Simpson.
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He heard the thumps on his wall the night of
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the murders. He saw oj acting suspiciously. He knew things
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that could have delivered justice for Nicole and Ron. Instead,
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he chose comfort over conscience. He protected his free housing
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and celebrity lifestyle rather than telling the truth about what
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he'd witnessed. He became rich and famous, while Nicole and
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Ron stayed dead. Mark Furman's post trial story is the
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most complicated. His racist language and perjury had destroyed the
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prosecution's case and handed Ojay his acquittal. He pleaded no
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contest to perjury charges in nineteen ninety six and received probation.
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But Furman also wrote books about other unsolved cases and
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became a television crime analyst. He tried to rehabilitate his
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reputation by solving cold cases and helping other victims' families
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find justice. Furman was a racist cop who lied under
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oath and helped a murderer escape justice. But he was
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also the detective who correctly ident oj Simpson as the
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killer of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. Both things
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can be true even if only one of them mattered
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to the jury. Barry Sheck returned to his work with
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the Innocence Project, using DNA evidence to free people who'd
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been wrongly convicted. The irony is palpable. The lawyer who'd
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helped a guilty man escape justice by attacking DNA evidence
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spent the rest of his career using DNA evidence to
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free innocent people. Sheck had used his scientific knowledge to
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create doubt about reliable evidence in the OJ case, but
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he also used that same knowledge to prove the innocence
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of hundreds of people who'd been wrongly convicted. He was
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both part of the problem and part of the solution.
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F Lee Bailey and Alan Dershowitz continued their legal careers
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but never achieved another victory as significant as OJ's acquittal.
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They'd been part of the greatest legal performance in American history,
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but they'd also been part of the greatest perversion of justice.
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Robert Shapiro Disas distanced himself from the racial aspects of
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the defense and continued representing celebrities in trouble. He'd been
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the architect of the dream Team, but he was uncomfortable
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with how racial the trial had become. All of them
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had been changed by the trial, all of them had
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played roles in freeing a double murderer. Some embraced that legacy,
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others tried to escape it, but none of them could
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undo what they'd accomplished. On October third, nineteen ninety five,
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we'll be right back with Ojy's eventual downfall in Las Vegas,
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