Oct. 6, 2026
Amber Guyger Paroled After Seven Years for Botham Jean's Murder, Florida Tosses a Hot-Car Felony Murder Conviction, Kentucky Sheriff Motion
The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles granted parole Thursday to Amber Guyger, 38, the former Dallas officer convicted of murdering Botham Jean, 26, in his own apartment in September 2018 — seven years to the day after her conviction, and seven years into a ten-year sentence. The board cited the absence of a documented pattern of violent arrests or convictions, a satisfactory institutional adjustment, and completed programming; no release date has been set, and the Texas Department of Criminal Justice will determine timing. Jean's family has opposed her release since her first parole review in 2024. In Florida, the First District Court of Appeal overturned the third-degree felony murder and child-unattended convictions of Rhonda Jewell in the 2023 hot-car death of 10-month-old Ariya Paige, holding that both charges required proof she knowingly left the child; the case returns for a new trial on the lesser count. And in Kentucky, former Letcher County sheriff Shawn "Mickey" Stines, charged in the 2024 shooting of Judge Kevin Mullins, is seeking to limit a second prosecution mental health examination. Garret Fisher reports.
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Calaroga Shark Media. Good morning. This is Daily Crime and
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Justice from Calaroga Media, powered by AI. I'm Garrett Fisher.
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It's Tuesday, October 6, 2026. Seven years ago, a jury
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in Dallas convicted a police officer of murder. She had
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walked into a stranger's apartment, found a man eating ice
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cream on his own couch, and shot him. On Thursday,
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exactly seven years to the day after that verdict, the
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Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles granted Amber Geiger parole.
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Botham Jean's family opposed it. The Dallas County District Attorney
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opposed it. More than 6,000 people signed a petition against it.
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She is getting out anyway. In Florida, an appeals court
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has overturned a murder conviction in the death of a
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10-month-old girl left in a hot car for five hours.
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And the ruling turns on a distinction most people have
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never had to think about. The difference between forgetting a
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child and knowingly leaving one. And in Kentucky, a sheriff
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accused of shooting a judge in that judge's own chambers
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is running a mental health defense and wants a court
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to stop prosecutors from sending in a second expert. Let's
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get into it. Botham Shem Jean was 26 years old.
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He was an accountant at PwC. He grew up in St. Lucia,
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came to Texas for college, and sang in his church choir.
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On the evening of September 6, 2018, he was in
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his own apartment in Dallas, on his couch, eating a
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bowl of vanilla ice cream. Amber Geiger was an off-duty
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Dallas police officer who lived one floor below him. She
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parked on the wrong level, went to the wrong door,
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and found it unlocked. She testified she believed she was
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in her own apartment and that Gene was an intruder.
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She shot him twice. He died. In October of 2019,
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a Dallas County jury convicted her of murder, and she
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was sentenced to 10 years in prison. Last Thursday, the
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Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles granted her parole after
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seven of those 10 years. The board's stated reasons, according
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to reporting on the decision, were that Geiger lacks a
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documented pattern of violent or assaultive arrests or convictions, that
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she made a satisfactory institutional adjustment, and that she completed
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programs aimed at securing stable employment. The board said it
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reviewed a plethora of information. Her release date has not
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been announced. Jean's family's attorney, Lee Merritt, said they were
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deeply disappointed and that the family and the community strongly
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opposed it. And he said something that I think is
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the entire segment in two sentences. Amber Geiger has been
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granted the opportunity to return home. Botham Jean will never
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have that opportunity. Now let me do the part of
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this that almost no coverage does, which is explain what
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actually happened here procedurally. Because the outrage and the mechanics
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are two different things. Parole in Texas is not a
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second trial. The board is not re-deciding whether she is
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guilty or whether 10 years was the right sentence. Those
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questions are closed. A jury answered the first one and
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a jury imposed the second. The board is answering a
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narrower question. Has this person served enough of the sentence
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a court gave them? And are they a manageable risk
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on supervision? And on those criteria, Amber Geiger is close
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to the easiest case a parole board will ever see.
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No prior record, no violence in custody, programming completed, a
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job lined up, seven of 10 years served. If you
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took her name off that file, she gets paroled and
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nobody writes a word about it. Which is exactly why
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people are angry, and I do not think that anger
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is irrational. Because the thing that is actually being protested
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here is not the parole board. It is the 10 years.
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A woman walked into a man's home and killed him,
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and the sentence was 10 years. His mother said at
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the time that it was well below what one receives
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for murder, and she was right. In Texas, murder carries
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a range up to 99 years or life. The jury
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chose 10. Seven of 10 is normal. 10 for a
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murder is not. So the family has spent seven years
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fighting at the only stage still open to them, which
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is parole, over a number that was set in 2019
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and could not be changed. There is one other piece
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of this. In November of 2024, a federal civil jury
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ordered Geiger to pay Jean's family nearly $ 99 million. The
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family has said collecting it is not their primary focus,
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and their attorney has said she will be dealing with
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that judgment for the rest of her life. That is
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the civil system doing what the criminal system did not,
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and it is also, practically, a number that will never
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be paid. One more thing that I cannot leave out.
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At her sentencing in 2019, Botham Jean's younger brother, Brant,
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told Geiger from the witness stand that he forgave her,
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that he did not want her to go to prison,
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and he asked the judge if he could give her
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a hug. The judge allowed it. They embraced an open court.
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That video went around the world. People used it to
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say a great many things about forgiveness. I want to
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be careful with it because that moment belonged to Brant
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Jean and nobody else. It was not a statement about
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what the law should do. A family member's grace is
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not a sentencing recommendation, and it is not a reason
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the rest of us get to feel finished. Botham Jean
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was 26 years old. He was eating ice cream in
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his own living room. Someone has to say his name.
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When we come back, an appeals court says forgetting is
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not the same as knowing. Aria Page was 10 months old.
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On a day in July of 2023, in Baker County, Florida,
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she was in the care of a babysitter named Rhonda Jewell,
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who was looking after four children from two different families.
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Jewell drove home, got out, and went inside. Aria stayed
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strapped in her car seat in the back. Five hours later,
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Jewell remembered. Aria died. Jewel was charged with manslaughter, third-degree
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felony murder, and leaving a child unattended in a motor vehicle.
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At her trial in 2024, she took the stand and
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admitted what happened. She said she forgot the baby in
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the car and that when she remembered, she ran out,
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opened the door, and the child was still there. The
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jury acquitted her of manslaughter. It convicted her of leaving
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a child unattended and of felony murder. She was sentenced
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to 17 years. Last week, Florida's First District Court of
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Appeal threw both convictions out, and the reason is a
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single word in the statute. Judge L. Clayton Roberts wrote
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that under Florida law, the state has to prove a
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defendant consciously or knowingly left the child in the vehicle.
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Not that she forgot. That she knew, and left anyway.
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Jewel did not knowingly leave that child in the car.
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She forgot. And on the court's reading, forgetting does not
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satisfy the statute. And because the felony murder count was
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built entirely on top of the unattended child charge, knocking
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out the first one collapsed the second. In Florida, felony
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murder requires an underlying felony. Take away the felony, and
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there is no murder. Judge Ross Bilbrey agreed. Chief Judge
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Timothy Osterhaus partially dissented, saying only the felony murder conviction
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should have been vacated. The case goes back to the
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trial court for a new trial on the unattended child charge. Now,
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the line that gave this segment its name, and I
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want to read the court's own framing because it is
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unusually human for an appellate opinion. The court called it
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the most tragic of cases. It said what happened was
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an accident. And it wrote that there are no winners
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here and that moral outrage is not assuaged. Area Page's
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family disagrees with the premise. a relative has said they
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do not accept the suggestion that Jewel simply forgot and
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put it this way, she just forgot to go back.
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I understand that completely. If my child died that way,
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I would not find the distinction between forgetting and knowing
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to be worth very much. But here is why it
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matters and why a law professor who filed a brief
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supporting Jewel told HuffPost that this kind of prosecution takes
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tragic accidents and elevates them to murder offenses. Felony murder
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is one of the most aggressive doctrines in American criminal law.
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It says that if someone dies during the commission of
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a felony, you are guilty of murder, even without any
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intent to kill. It exists to deter people from committing
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dangerous crimes. Stacking it on top of a statute about
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leaving a kid in a car means that a lapse
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in attention, the single most common and most human failure
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there is, becomes a murder charge carrying 17 years. And
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the research on this is genuinely counterintuitive. Hot car deaths
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did not decline after the most famous of these prosecutions.
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By some accounts, they went up. These deaths overwhelmingly happened
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to loving, attentive parents and caregivers whose memory failed in
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a specific, documented way. You cannot deter an accident with
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a prison sentence because the person is not making a decision.
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None of which brings back a 10-month-old girl. And that
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is the part that will never be fixed by any ruling.
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Aria Page was 10 months old. She was in a
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car seat for five hours on a Florida afternoon in July.
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Someone has to say her name. When we come back,
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a sheriff accused of killing a judge wants to limit
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who gets to examine his mind. Judge Kevin Mullins was
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a district judge in Letcher County, Kentucky. In September of 2024,
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he was shot and killed inside his own chambers at
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the courthouse in Whitesburg. The man charged with killing him
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is Sean Steins, who goes by Mickey, and who was
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at the time the elected sheriff of that county. Steins
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has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent. His defense
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has indicated it will raise his mental health at trial.
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And now his attorneys are asking the court to block
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prosecutors from having a second expert examine him before trial.
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That is the entire fight, and it is a genuinely
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interesting one. Here is the principle. A defendant has a
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Fifth Amendment right not to be compelled to incriminate himself.
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He does not have to talk to the state's experts,
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and in the ordinary case, he will not. But when
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a defendant puts his own mental state at issue, courts
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almost universally hold that he has opened a door. If
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his expert gets to examine him for hours and then
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tell a jury what is in his head, the state
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is normally permitted to have its own expert do the same. Otherwise,
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the jury only ever hears one side of a question
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that only experts can speak to. What is usually contested
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is not whether the state gets an examination. It is
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how many, by whom, how long, and what happens to
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anything the defendant says during it that is not about
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his mental state. We have now watched this question play
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out in four different cases on this show in a month.
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Lindsay Clancy was evaluated by experts for both sides. Three
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prosecution experts examined her, including one who spent about 11
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hours with her. And all three testified she was criminally responsible.
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Vicki Lynn Williams raised insanity in Florida, lost at the
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guilt phase, and then had a defense psychologist testify about
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her schizophrenia at sentencing, which saved her life. And Tomasz
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Kosowski refused to sign consent forms for a medical evaluation
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at all, refused to present mitigation, and is now waiting
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for a judge to decide whether he lives. Those are
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three completely different strategic choices about the same constitutional question.
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How much of your own mind do you hand over,
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and what do you get for it? Steins is making
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a fourth choice, raise the defense but try to limit
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the state's access. I do not know how that motion
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comes out, and I would be surprised if a court
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barred a prosecution examination entirely. Limiting its scope is a
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much likelier result. But I want to be clear about
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what is not in dispute. Judge Kevin Mullins was shot
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in his own chambers, in a courthouse, in the middle
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of a working day. The killing was captured on surveillance video.
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A judge was killed at work. Whatever happens with the experts,
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that is the fact at the center of this. Someone
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has to say his name. That's the show for Tuesday,
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a comment on the Florida ruling. If a caregiver genuinely
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forgets a child and that child dies, should that be
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a crime at all? And if your answer is yes,
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what exactly is the sentence supposed to accomplish? We are
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still watching Tennessee, where Krista Pike remains hospitalized. The Polk
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County jury is weighing whether to recommend death for Tony Wiggins.
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And jury selection is underway in Boston in the federal
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trial over Sandra Birchmore's death. I'm Garrett Fisher. Do better.
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A few notes on sourcing. On the Texas case, Amber
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Geiger was convicted of murder and has been granted parole
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by the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles. As of recording,
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no release date had been announced. and at least one
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state record appeared inconsistent with the board's decision, which outlets
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have noted. The board's stated reasons come from reporting on
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its decision. The civil judgment described was entered by a
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federal jury and is separate from the criminal case. On
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the Florida appeal, Rhonda Jewell's convictions for third-degree felony murder
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and leaving a child unattended have been vacated by the
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1st District Court of Appeal. The case returns to the
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trial court for a new trial on the unattended child charge,
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so it is not over and she has not been acquitted.
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One member of the three-judge panel partially dissented. Research on
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whether these prosecutions deter hot car deaths is contested, and
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we have described it as such. On the Kentucky case,
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Sean Stines has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent.
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The description of his defense comes from filings and reporting.
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