Jan. 24, 2026

"A DINGO'S GOT MY BABY: THE NIGHT THAT DESTROYED A FAMILY - PART 1"

"A DINGO'S GOT MY BABY: THE NIGHT THAT DESTROYED A FAMILY - PART 1"

Reid Carter launches an Australia Day Weekend Special examining the case that became a global phenomenon. August 17, 1980: Lindy Chamberlain's nine-week-old daughter Azaria vanishes from a tent at Uluru. Lindy says she saw a dingo leaving with the baby. First inquest rules dingo attack. Then forensic "experts" claim to find fetal blood in the family car. A British pathologist sees handprints and cut throats that don't exist. The blood turns out to be spray-on car coating. The "cat hair" was dingo fur. October 1982: Lindy convicted of murder, sentenced to life. She was pregnant. Next weekend: Port Arthur.

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Caalaroga Shark Media. Good morning, I'm Reed Carter. Saturday, January

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twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. On Monday, Australians celebrate Australia Day.

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So this weekend and next we're crossing the Pacific to

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examine two cases that defined modern Australia, two cases that

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changed laws, sparked national debates, and left permanent scars on

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the Australian psyche. This weekend, Azaria Chamberlain, a nine week

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old baby who vanished from a tent at Oolaru in

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nineteen eighty. Her mother said a dingo took her. Australia

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didn't believe it sent the mother to prison for murder

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based on forensic evidence that turned out to be completely

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catastrophically wrong. Next weekend, Port Arthur, April nineteen ninety six,

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a gunman killed thirty five people at a historic site

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in Tasmania. Twelve days later, Australia had new gun laws.

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They still work. It's the massac her America refuses to

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learn from. But today we start with a mother's scream

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in the Australian Outback. August seventeenth, nineteen eighty Ooluru, then

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known as Ayr's Rock. The most sacred sight in the

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Australian interior, a massive sandstone monolith rising from the desert floor,

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colors shifting from gold to red as the sun moves

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across the sky. The Chamberlain family had been camping there

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for two days. Michael Chamberlain, a Seventh Day Adventist pastor,

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his wife Lyndy, thirty two years old born in New Zealand,

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their sons Aiden six and Reagan four, and their baby daughter, Azaria,

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nine weeks old. That evening, around eight o'clock, Lindy went

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to check on the baby in their tent. What she

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saw would haunt her for the rest of her life.

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A dingo, Australia's wild dog, leaving the tent something in

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its mouth. Lindy screamed six words that would become the

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most misquoted phrase in Australia history. My God, My God,

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the dingoes got my baby. What followed was the largest

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search in Northern Territory history, hundreds of people, Aboriginal trackers,

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police volunteers, searching through the night through the following days.

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They never found Azaria's body. What they found instead was

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a blood stained jumpsuit, a singlet, and eventually, years later,

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a tiny matinee jacket that would prove Lyndy Chamberlain had

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been telling the truth all along. But by then she'd

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already spent more than three years in prison for a

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murder she didn't commit. I'm read Carter. This is celebrity

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trials today, Part one. The Dingo attack that nobody believed,

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the forensic evidence that was completely fabricated, and the trial

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that sent an innocent mother to prison. This is the

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Azaria Chamberlain case. To under stand what happened to Lyndy Chamberlain,

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you need to understand who she was and why Australia

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turned against her. Alice Lynn Murchison was born March fourth,

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nineteen forty eight in Wakataine, New Zealand. Moved to Australia

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as a child. Met Michael Chamberlain when they were both young.

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Married in nineteen seventy became deeply involved in the Seventh

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Day Adventist Church. Now for American listeners, Seventh Day Adventists

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are a Protestant denomination. They observe Saturday as the Sabbath.

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They emphasize health, often following vegetarian diets. They believe in

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the imminent return of Christ in the United states there

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are over a million members. It's mainstream. In Australia. In

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nineteen eighty, not so much. Seventh Day Adventists were viewed

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with suspicion, considered a bit odd different. Some Australians lumped

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them in with cults, didn't understand their practices, found them strange.

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This will matter later, trust me. Michael Chamberlain was pastor

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of the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Mount Isa, a

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mining town in northern Queensland. He and Lindy had three children,

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Aiden born nineteen seventy four, Reagan born nineteen seventy six,

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and Azaria born June eleventh, nineteen eighty in Mount Isa.

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Azaria the name would later be twisted by the media.

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Rumors spread that it meant sacrifice in the wilderness, that

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the Chamberlains had named their baby for some sinister religious purpose.

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The truth Azarea is Hebrew. It means blessed by God,

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nothing more, nothing sinister. August nineteen eighty, the family decided

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to take a camping trip drive from Mount Isa across

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the Northern Territory to Ooluru, see the famous rock camp

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under the stars, a family holiday. They arrived at the

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Ayrs Rock campground on August sixteenth, nineteen eighty, set up

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their tent. The next morning, Mike took the boys to

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climb part of the rock. Lindy, carrying baby Azaria, explored

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a formation called Fertility Cave. Just outside the cave, something

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caught her eye, a dingo staring at her. Watching, Lindy

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felt uneasy. But dingoes were everywhere at Ooluru, part of

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the landscape. Tourists saw them all the time. What tourists

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didn't know. What Lindy didn't know, was that Oolaru's head ranger,

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Derek Roff, had been writing to the government for two

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years warning them the dingoes were becoming aggressive, approaching humans,

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sometimes biting people. He'd been urging a cull, predicting that

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someone would get seriously hurt. Nobody listened. That evening, August seventeenth,

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the Chamberlains joined other campers at the communal barbecue area.

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Families cooking dinner together, children playing, adults chatting, the kind

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of scene you'd find at any campground anywhere in the world. Lindy,

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he had put Reagan and Azaria to bed in the

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family tent, came back to the barbecue, sat with Michael

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and the other families. Around eight o'clock, they heard Azaria cry.

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Lindy went to check on her, and then came the scream.

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Let me paint you the picture. It's around eight pm

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August in the Southern Hemisphere is winter cold in the

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desert at night dark. The Chamberlain tent is maybe fifty

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meters from the barbecue area. Lindy walks toward it. As

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she approaches, she sees something in the darkness. Movement near

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the tent entrance, a shape, four legs, something in its mouth,

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a dingo running off into the night. Lindy runs to

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the tent, looks inside the basinette where Azaria had been sleeping,

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is empty, blankets, disturbed. Baby gone, My god, my god,

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the dingoes got my baby. Everyone at the campground heard her.

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The other families, the campers, they dropped everything, grabbed flashlights,

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started searching. Michael Chamberlain ran into the darkness, calling for

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his daughter. Other men joined him. They searched the scrub

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land around the camp site, looking for any sign, any trail,

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any hope. Aboriginal tracker Nui Mignontiri was brought in, one

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of the best trackers in the region. He found dingo

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tracks leading away from the tent, found dragmarks consistent with

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something being carried, but the trail went cold on rocky ground.

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Police organized a massive search, hundreds of people combing the

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area around Oolaroo, searching caves, searching dingo dens, searching everywhere

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a wild dog might take its prey. They found nothing.

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Witnessed Sally Low, another camper, told police she had seen

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a dingo near the Chamberlain tent that evening, described it

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lurking around the barbecue area, said she had seen it

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earlier acting strangely aggressive. Witness Judith West, camped about thirty

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meters away, testified she heard a dog's low, throaty growl

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coming from the direction of the Chamberlain tent, the kind

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of sound she said that her husband's dogs made when

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he was slaughtering sheep. Other campers supported the Chamberlain's story.

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Everyone who was there that night believed them believed a

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dingo had taken the baby, believed Lindy was telling the truth.

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One week later, August twenty fourth, a tourist named Wallace

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Goodwin was hiking near the base of Oolaroo, about four

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kilometers from the campsite. He found something in the rocks

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a baby's jumpsuit, black with white trim, blood stained around

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the neck, a singlet inside Azaria's clothes. No body, just

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the clothes. The jumpsuit had been photographed at the scene.

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The blood stains were concentrated around the collar, consistent with

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a predator grabbing the baby by the neck. Canine hares

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were found on the fabric. But here's the critical detail

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that would matter. Years later, Lindy Chamberlain insisted that Azaria

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had been wearing a matinee jacket over the jumpsuit, a

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little knitted cardigan, white or cream colored. She had dressed

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her daughter in it because it was cold. The matinee

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jacket was not found with the jumpsuit. Police noted this,

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questioned Lindy about it. She was adamant Azaria was wearing

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the jacket. It must still be out there somewhere. Some

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investigators believed her, others didn't. If there was a jacket,

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where was it. Why would a dingo remove a jacket

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but leave the jumpsuit. The absence of that jacket would

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become central to the case. Police began to doubt Lindy's story.

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If she was lying about the jacket, what else was

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she lying about? Make it make sense. A mother's daughter

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is taken by a wild animal, she remembers exactly what

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her baby was wearing, and because that item of clothing

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isn't found, people assume she's a liar, assume she's covering

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something up. The jacket existed, it would be found six

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years later, exactly where a dingo would have dropped it,

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but by then Lyndy Chamberlain would already be in prison.

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December fifteenth, nineteen eighty Alice springs the coronial inquest into

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the death of Azaria Chamberlain begins. Coroner Dennis Barrett presides

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his job determine how Azaria died, whether anyone was responsible,

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whether charges should be filed. For two months, Barrett heard evidence,

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witness testimony from the campers who were there that night,

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expert testimony about dingo behavior, forensic analysis of the clothing,

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police reports. February twentieth, nineteen eighty one, Barrett delivered his findings.

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He ruled that Azaria Chamberlain had been killed by a dingo,

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that the wild dog had entered the tent, seized the baby,

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and carried her off into the night, that Lyndy and

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Michael Chamberlain were not responsible in any way for their

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daughter's death. In an unprecedented move, Barrett allowed his concluding

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remarks to be televised live, the first time an Australian

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inquest had been broadcast to the nation, and what he

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said should have ended the matter. You have not only

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suffered the loss of your beloved child in the most

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tragic circumstances, but you have all been subjected to months

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of innuendos, suspicion and probably the most malicious gossip ever

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issued in this country. He criticized the police investigation, called

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out the rumor mill, defended the Chamberlain's publicly. The family

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should have been able to grieve in peace, should have

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been able to move on, should have been able to

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remember their daughter without the world questioning whether they killed her.

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But some people weren't satisfied with Barrett's findings. Forensic odontologist

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Kenneth Brown had given evidence at the inquest about the

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damage to Azaria's jumpsuit. He believe believe it was consistent

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with dingo teeth, but some of his conclusions had been questioned.

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His professional reputation, he felt, had been challenged. Brown sent

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Azaria's clothing to Professor James Cameron at the London Hospital

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Medical College, a British forensic pathologist, an expert witness who

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had testified in major cases around the world. Cameron examined

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the jumpsuit and he saw things that nobody else had seen.

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He claimed the damage around the neck wasn't from dingo teeth,

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it was from a blade a cut throat. He said

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he could see in ultraviolet photographs of the fabric the

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imprint of a small adult hand, as if someone had

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gripped the baby while cutting her throat. Cameron's analysis was explosive.

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It suggested murder, not dingo attack. It suggested Lyndy Chamberlain

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had killed her own daughter. The Northern Territory Supreme Court

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agreed to quash the findings of Barrett's inquest. A second

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inquest was ordered. Here's what you need to understand about

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James Cameron. He was a highly credentialed expert testified in

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courts around the world. His word carried enormous weight. He

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was also wrong, catastrophically wrong. His evidence in the Chamberlain

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case would later be thoroughly debunked, and this wasn't the

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first time Cameron had given crucial evidence in another case.

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In England that was later overturned when his expert testimony

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was proved incorrect. But in nineteen eighty one nobody knew

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that yet. All they knew was that a famous British

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forensic expert said Lindy Chamberlain cut her baby's throat the

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tide began to turn. This is where the Chamberlain case

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becomes a masterclass in junk science, in expert testimony that

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sounds convincing but is completely provably wrong, in a justice

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system that put faith in forensics over facts. December nineteen

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eighty one, the second coronial Inquest opens in Darwin. New

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forensic evidence is presented, evidence that will convict Lindy Chamberlain

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of murder. Let me walk you through what the prosecution

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claimed and then let me show you what was actually true. First,

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the blood in the car. The Chamberlains drove a nineteen

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seventy seven hold in Toronto hatchback. After Azaria's disappearance, police

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examined the vehicle. A forensic biologist named Joy Cool tested

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various stains found inside. She used a test for blood

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found positive reactions in multiple locations under the dashboard, on

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the floor, carpets, on the seats on the zipper of

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Michael's camera bag. Then she performed a test she claimed

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could detect fetal hemoglobin. That's a type of hemoglobin found

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in babies under six months old. Azaria was nine weeks.

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If fetal hemoglobin was in that car, it could only

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have come from her. Cool testified that she found fetal

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hemoglobin under the dashboard, a spray pattern consistent, she said,

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with arterial blood spray, as if a baby's throat had

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been cut and blood had sprayed across the underside of

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the dash This was the smoking gun. The prosecution argued

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that Lindy had murdered Azaria in the front seat of

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the car, hidden her body in the camera bag, and

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later disposed of it somewhere in the outback. The blood

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evidence proved it, except it didn't because it wasn't blood.

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Years later, during the Royal commission that would exonerate the

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Chamberlain's scientists examined that spray pattern under the dashboard. They

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identified it conclusively. It was a sound deadening compound, a

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bituminous spray applied during the manufacture of the car. Standard

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automotive material found in twenty three percent of Holden Tarantas

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from that era, not blood car coating. The test joy

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cool used for fetal hemoglobin. It wasn't specific to blood

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at all. It could react with numerous substances, and it

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did react with the sound deadening compound, giving a false

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positive that sent an innocent woman to prison. But wait,

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there's more. The ortho tolidine test cool used to detect

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blood throughout the car. That test reacts with copper. The

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Chamberlains lived in Mount Isa, a mining town in central Queensland.

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Their car was covered in dust from the copper rich soil,

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dust that had accumulated over years of driving through mining country.

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Every blood stain in that car was either sound deadener

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or copper dust. None of it was human blood. None

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of it came from Azaria. Second, the cutthroat theory. James

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Cameron examined the jumpsuit and saw blade marks, a deliberate

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cut around the neck, the imprint of a small adult

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hand gripping the fabric. Other experts disagreed. They looked at

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the same photographs and saw nothing. No handprint, no blade marks,

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just fabric damage consistent with animal teeth. Here's the thing

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about K nine teeth. They're incredibly sharp, as sharp as

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scissors in some cases. The damage to Azaria's jumpsuit was

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later shown to be entirely consistent with a dingo's bite.

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The tearing, the punctures, the pattern of damage all matched

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what you'd expect from a wild dog carrying a small

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prey animal. Cameron saw what he wanted to see, what

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the prosecution needed him to see, and he testified to

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it with absolute confidence. Third the cat hair. A forensic

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scientist named doctor Harding examined hairs found on Azaria's jumpsuit.

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He identified them as cat hair. The Chamberlains had owned

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a cat before Azaria was born. This suggested the clothes

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had been in the Chamberlain home, not taken by a dingo.

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After the trial, doctor Hans Brunner, an expert in animal

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hair analysis, examined the same samples using proper scientific methodology.

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His conclusion the hair was canineither dog or dingo, impossible

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to distinguish between the two, but definitely not cat. Harding

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had misidentified dingo hair as cat hair, basic forensic error. Fourth,

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the missing jacket. Throughout all of this, Lindy maintained that

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Azaria was wearing a matinee jacket. Police insisted no such

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jacket existed, that Lindy had invented it, that her insistence

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on the jacket proved she was lying about everything. The

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jacket existed. Lindy was telling the truth, but nobody believed her.

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Let me be clear about what happened here. The forensic

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evidence that convicted Lindy Chamberlain was not just flawed. It

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was fabricated, not intentionally perhaps, but catastrophically wrong at every level.

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Blood that was car coating, handprints that didn't exist, cat

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hair that was dingo fur, tests that proved nothing being

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presented as conclusive evidence of murder. Michael Chamberlain would later

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call it one of the the worst perversions of forensic

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science in Australian history. He wasn't wrong. September thirteenth, nineteen

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eighty two, the Supreme Court of the Northern Territory Darwin,

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Lyndy Chamberlain stands accused of murder. The prosecution alleges she

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cut her daughter's throat in the front seat of the

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family car, hid the body in a camera bag, rejoined

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the barbecue, fed her son Aidan a can of baked beans,

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then returned to the tent and raised the alarm. About

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a dingo attack. Michael Chamberlain is charged as an accessory

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after the fact. The prosecution claims he helped dispose of

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the body. The trial is a circus media from around

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the world, daily coverage in every Australian newspaper, Television crews

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camped outside the courthouse, the whole country watching, and the

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whole country had already made up its mind. See Lindy

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Chamberlain didn't behave the way people expected a grieving mother

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to behave. Didn't weep publicly, didn't collapse in front of cameras,

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She wore sunglasses, seemed composed, even made dry jokes when

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answering questions. To many Australians, this made her look cold, heartless, guilty.

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What they didn't understand was that Lindy had been grieving

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privately for two years by the time of the trial,

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that she'd already cried every tear she had, that she

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was exhausted, traumatized and trying to hold herself together while

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the entire nation called her a murderer. But the public

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didn't see a woman holding herself together. They saw a

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woman who didn't seem sad enough, and that, more than

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any forensic evidence is what convicted her. The religious angle

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made it worse. Seventh day Adventists fast, they don't drink alcohol.

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They observed Saturday as the Sabbath. They have dietary restrictions.

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Australians who didn't understand these practices found them sinister. Rumors spread.

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Azaria's death was a religious sacrifice. The name meant sacrifice

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in the wilderness. The Chamberlains were part of some kind

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of cult. None of this was true, All of it

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was believed. Prosecution counsel Ian Barker presented the forensic evidence,

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the blood in the car, the cut throat, the handprint

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on the jumpsuit. He painted a picture of a calculating

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murderer who had planned and executed the killing of her

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own child. Defense counsel John Phillips challenged the evidence presented.

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Witnesses who had seen dingoes near the tent presented expert

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testimony that the damage to the jumpsuit was consistent with

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animal attack. Reminded the jury that every camper present that

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night believed the Chamberlain's story, but the forensic evidence was overwhelming.

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To the jury, it seemed scientific objective beyond dispute. The

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campers who believed the chamberlains just witnesses, possibly fooled, possibly lying.

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The British pathologist who saw handprints and blade marks, an

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expert credentialed trustworthy. October twenty ninth, nineteen eighty two, the

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jury returns nine men and three women. They'd heard weeks

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of testimony, examined, the evidence, discussed and debated guilty. Lindy

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Chamberlain guilty of murder, sentenced to life imprisonment with hard labor.

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Michael Chamberlain guilty of being an accessory after the fact,

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sentenced to eighteen months suspended. Lindy stood in the dock

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as the verdict was read. She was pregnant seven months

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along with her fourth child. She would give birth in prison.

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The judge ordered her taken into custody immediately, no bail

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pending appeal, no time to prepare. Lyndy Chamberlain, pregnant, mother

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of three, convicted murderer, was led away in handcuffs. Her

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sons Aiden and Reagan would grow up visiting their mother

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in prison. Her unborn daughter, Kalia would be born behind

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bars and immediately taken away. The appeals failed. Federal Court

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of Australia dismissed. High Court of Australia dismissed every legal avenue. Exhausted,

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Lindy Chamberlain would spend more than three years in prison

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for a crime she didn't commit, Convicted by junk science

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and public opinion. Separated from her children, her marriage crumbling,

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her life destroyed, all because a dingo took her baby

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and nobody believed her. Tomorrow on Celebrity Trials, Part two

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of the Azaria Chamberlain Story. A dead climber, a matinee

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jacket found near a dingo's lair, a royal commission that

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dismantled every piece of evidence, Meryl Streep winning awards for

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playing Lindy on screen and thirty two years for one

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simple truth to be written on a death certificate. Plus

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Next Weekend port Arthur thirty five Dead. Australia's gun laws

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changed Forever. That's part one of our Australia Day Weekend

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special on Azaria Chamberlain. August seventeenth, nineteen eighty A baby

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vanishes from a tent at Oolaru. Her mother says a

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dingo took her. The first inquest agrees. Then forensic experts

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see blood that's actually car coating, handprints that don't exist,

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cat hair that's actually dingo fur. October twenty ninth, nineteen

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eighty two, Lyndy Chamberlain convicted of murder, sentenced to life,

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pregnant with her fourth child, taken to prison immediately. The

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evidence that convicted her was wrong, all of it, every piece,

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the blood tests, the fabric analysis, the expert testimony wrong.

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But Lyndy Chamberlain sat in a cell anyway, gave birth

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to a daughter she wasn't allowed to keep, watched years

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of her life disappear, while Australia called her a monster tomorrow.

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How a dead climber's body led searchers to the jacket

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that proved everything. How a royal commission tore apart the

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prosecution's case. How Lyndy Chamberlain walked free but had to

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wait thirty two years for the truth and next weekend

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poort Arthur April twenty eighth, nineteen ninety six, thirty five

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people murdered in ninety minutes. How one massacre changed a

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nation's gun laws in twelve days. The story America refuses

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to learn from Azaria Chantelle Lauren Chamberlain born June eleventh,

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nineteen eighty died August seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine weeks old.

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She would have turned forty five this year. Would have

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had a life, a career, maybe children of her own,

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grandchildren for Lyndy and Michael. Instead, a dingo took her,

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and then the Australian justice system took everything else. Someone

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has to say her name. I'm read Carter. See you

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tomorrow for part two. This is Celebrity Trials.