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Human progress may be beneficial to human society, but it is usually achieved at the cost of the lives of other species. Corinna Bellizzi explores how we interrupt the movement and migration of wild animals with Hillary Rosner, a science journalist, editor, and author. Together, they discuss how human-made fences and borders, the privatization of land, and the displacement of indigenous stewardship hinder countless animals from moving freely from one place to another, leading to their dwindling population. Hillary also explains what it takes to create large-scale solutions to solve this ecological problem, and why it all starts with shifting our consciousness to see the world from an animal’s perspective.

About Guest:
Hillary Rosner is a science journalist, editor, and author whose stories about the conservation, biodiversity, and other environmental topics have appeared in National Geographic, The New York Times, Wired, The Atlantic, High Country News, Audubon, bioGraphic, and dozens of other publications. She is assistant director of the Center for Environmental Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. Her book Roam: Wild Animals and the Race to Repair Our Fractured World was published in 2025 by Patagonia.

Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hillaryrosner/
Guest Website: https://hillaryr.net
Additional Resources Mentioned:
Roam: Wild Animals and the Race to Repair Our Fractured World by Hillary Rosner https://amzn.to/4rJ63tc

Show Notes:
01:58 - Why Hillary Focuses On Animal Migration Instead Of Extinction
06:18 - How To Make Borders And Fences More Animal-Friendly
09:48 - How Modern Development Impacts Wildlife Migration
14:56 - Finding Hope In Public Lands And National Parks
26:56 - How Privatization And Human Progress Hinder Wildlife Movement
32:48 - Various Movements To Keep An Eye On
41:27 - Bringing Species To Spaces They Do Not Belong
48:13 - Are Indigenous People The Best Stewards Of The Land?
53:10 - Let Animals Move Freely In Your Land
56:56 - Discussion Wrap-up And Closing Words

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