June 24, 2025

The Joe Rogan Experience with Bernie Sanders recap, Trump’s Iran Strikes and the MAGA Civil War

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Joe Rogan’s sit-down with Senator Bernie Sanders blows the lid off a brewing civil war in MAGA world. The pair dig into Congressman Thomas Massie’s “unconstitutional” critique of Trump’s Iran strikes, Trump’s retaliation PAC, and the Streisand-effect backlash from right-wing stars like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Alex Jones, and Candace Owens. Rogan also calls out deportation raids and Trump’s shaky “Complete and Total CEASEFIRE,” revealing how voters who wanted “no more wars” wound up with bombing runs and job-site round-ups.

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Caalaroga Shark Media from Austin, Texas, where Trump is losing

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Joe Rogan, this is ballad again, Like yesterday, I can't

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even keep up with the news and I host the news.

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Let's hit this. So Joe Rogan is pointing out that

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there's a civil war brewing in Magaland. And it turns

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out when you promise people no more wars, they actually

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expect you to not start any wars. Who could have

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seen that coming. Rogan had Bernie Sanders on his podcast,

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which is already a fascinating dinner party combination, and he's

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basically saying, hey, remember when Trump voters thought they were

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voting for the anti war candidate. Well, surprise, We're six

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months in and already bombing people. Now you've got Congressman

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Thomas Massey from Kentucky calling Trump's iron strikes unconstitutional, and

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Trump's response he declared Massey not MAGA and started a

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pack to get rid of him. That's like firing someone

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from your book club because they didn't like the ending

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of the book you picked. Rogan called it the Streisand effect,

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where trying to silence someone just makes more people pay

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attention to what they're saying Trump's basically doing the political

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equivalent of yelling, don't look at that guy, which naturally

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makes everyone immediately look at that guy. And the cast

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of characters speaking out against these strikes reads like a

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conservative Greatest Hits album. Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green,

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Alex Jones, Candice Owens. When Alex Jones is calling for

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restraint and foreign policy, you know something's gone sideways. Tucker

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Carlson had ted Cruz on and grilled him about the

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population of Iran. Spoiler alert, Cruse didn't know nothing, says

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we should definitely bomb this country. Quite like not knowing

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how many people live there. That's like ordering a pizza

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without knowing if you're feeding two people or twenty. Bannon's

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calling for an investigation into whether Fox News is cheerleading

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us into war on behalf of Israel. Steve Bannon questioning

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Fox News about war cheerleading is like Colonel Sanders questioning

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KFC about their chicken preparation methods. Meanwhile, Rogan's also upset

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about the deportation rates, saying if Trump had campaigned on

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We're going to tackle people at construction sites, nobody would

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have signed up for that, which raises the question what

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exactly did people think mass deportations was going to look

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like a polite knock on the door and a formal

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written invitation to leave. The whole thing shows that campaign

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promises and governing reality are two very different things. To Trump,

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voters wanted an isolationist who would focus on America first.

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Instead they got someone who's bombing Iran and raiding home depots.

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That's not what they ordered. And now they're asking to

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speak to the manager. Of course, the manager just claimed

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nobody else has any idea what the f they are doing.

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Let me walk you through this diplomatic masterpiece. On Monday afternoon,

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Trump posts this massive wall of texts declaring a complete

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and total ceasefire. And I'm using his capitalization here because

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apparently when you're announcing fake peace deals, you need to shout.

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He congratulated both countries on their stamina, courage, and intelligence

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for ending what he called the twelve day war. The

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only problem nobody told Israel and Iran about this ceasefire.

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They were probably sitting there going, wait, we agreed to what?

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Now it's like announcing that you've resolved your neighbor's property

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dispute while they're still throwing rocks at each other over

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the fence. Later that night, Trump posts again still no

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confirmation from either country, saying Israel and Iran came to

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him almost simultaneously and said peace. Right. I'm sure the

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leaders of two countries locked in active combat took time

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out of their bombing schedules to send Trump a text

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that just said peace with a bunch of peace sign emojis.

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But here's where it gets really good. Trump starts bragging

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about how the US bombing of Iran actually helped bring

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everyone together. He called it a perfect hit that brought

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everyone together. That's some next level logic right there. We

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bombed you into friendship. Then reality started creeping in. By midnight,

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his tone completely changed. He's posting in all caps, the

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ceasefire is now in effect, Please do not violate it.

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He sounds like a substitute teacher who's lost control of

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the classroom. By Tuesday morning, he's frantically posting, Israel, do

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not drop those bombs. If you do, it is a

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major violation. At this point, he's basically live tweeting his

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own diplomatic failure. He's trying to conduct international relations through

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social media posts like he's managing a group chat. Then

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comes my favorite post, Israel is not going to attack Iran.

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All planes will turn around and head home while doing

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a friendly PlaneWave to Iran. A friendly plane wave. He

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wanted fighter jets to waggle their wings at each other

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like they're saying goodbye after a playdate. Of course, Israel

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did not do a friendly PlaneWave. He bombed a radar

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system near Tehran, shocking absolutely no one except apparently the

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President of the United States. A few hours later, Trump's

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on the White House lawn telling reporters that both countries

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don't know what the f they're doing, So in less

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than twenty four hours, he went from God bless you

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both to dropping F bombs about the same two countries.

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But I guess F bombs are better than a bombs,

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even if that's a hack joke. So it turns out

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that when President Trump set our strikes completely and totally

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obliterated Iran's nuclear program, he may have been engaging in

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what we call creative interpretation of facts. The Defense Intelligence

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Agency put out an assessment saying the strikes only set

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a ron back by a few months, and that their

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uranium stockpiles and centrifuges are largely intact. Trump's response to this,

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he said the assessment was flat out wrong and was

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leaked by an anonymous low level loser. When you're the president,

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in your own intelligence agencies disagree with you, maybe the

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problem isn't the intelligence agencies, but sure, let's blame the

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low level losers who probably went to school for this

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stuff and have been analyzing bomb damage for decades. White

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House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said everyone knows what happens

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when you drop fourteen thirty thousand pound bombs perfectly on

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their targets, total obliteration. Well apparently not everyone knows that,

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because the people whose job at it is to assess

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bomb damage are saying, hey, not so much. Defense Secretary

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Pete Hegseth is doubling down, saying the bombing campaign obliterated

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Iron's ability to create nuclear weapons and that the impact

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is buried under a mountain of rubble. Meanwhile, the actual

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intelligence assessment is basically saying, we hit some buildings above ground,

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but the important stuff is still down there. It's like

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claiming you destroyed someone's house when you just knocked over

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their mailbox and damage their roof. Sure there's some damage,

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but they can still live there and probably rebuild pretty quickly.

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The really telling detail here is that they used Tomahawk

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missiles on the Isfahan facility instead of bunker buster bombs

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because they knew the bombs wouldn't penetrate deep enough. That's

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like bringing a sledgehammer to crack a safe and then

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being surprised when the safe is still locked. Republican Congressman

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Michael McCall, who's been briefed on this, said the plan

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was never meant to completely destroy the facilities, but to

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cause significant damage, and that it was always known to

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be a temporary setback. So even the people who supported

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this operation are saying, yeah, we knew this wasn't going

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to end their program. And here's the kicker. US officials

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believe Iron has secret nuclear facilities that weren't even targeted

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and are still fully operational. So we spend all this

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time and the money bombing some of their facilities while

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completely missing others. That's like robbing a bank but only

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hitting the ATM in the lobby. The classified briefings to

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Congress about the operation canceled Trump called off the House

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reefing with zero explanation. Nothing says mission accomplished quite like

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refusing to explain to Congress what you actually accomplished. The

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satellite imagery expert who reviewed the strike sites agrees that

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the attacks don't appear to have ended Iron's nuclear program.

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When even the satellite photos are contradicting your victory claims,

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you might want to reconsider your definition of total obliteration.

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Portions of today's show were made with the help of

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