May 16, 2024
Biden and Trump agree to two debates (as long as RFK isn't there!)
Yay, we're getting two debates! There are a bunch of rules, and one of the rules is no Robert F, Kennedy Jr.
Also the rules want things to be civilized. No talking after your mic is turned off. Good luck with that!...
Yay, we're getting two debates! There are a bunch of rules, and one of the rules is no Robert F, Kennedy Jr.
Also the rules want things to be civilized. No talking after your mic is turned off. Good luck with that!
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Calarogu Shark media from Washington, DC, where two debates is fewer than three
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but more than zero Unless you're RFK, this is ballid. Today, Biden
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and Trump agree to two debates.
Get out the popcorn and let's hit this.
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Well. Well, well, look
who decided to make this presidential debate
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schedule an absolute circus. In a
shocking turn of events, Joe Biden and
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Donald Trump have agreed to not one, but two televised face offs in the
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run up to November, and they're
doing it all on their own Maverick terms.
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Baby, that's right. The former
frenemies practically dropped a steel chair on
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the Commission on Presidential Debates by completely
bucking its carefully curated three debate format.
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Instead, we're getting an Atlanta throwdown
on June twenty seventh, courtesy of CNN,
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followed by an ABC hosted rematch in
September, both of which promised to
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be absolute barn burners. If their
initial taunts are any indication. Biden kicked
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things off by challenging Trump to debates
under his rules. Trump never want to
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resist an opportunity for chaos, and
Bombast eagerly agreed and even demanded more debates
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in July and August, just for
the hell of it, because in the
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endless delusion Olympics that is Trump versus
Biden twenty twenty four, there's no such
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thing as too much inanity. Trump
labeled his opponent the worst president and worst
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debater he's ever faced, to which
Biden clapped back by sassly noting he plans
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to keep Air Force one for another
four years. Oh snap, folks.
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Their respective campaigns tried to maintain a
patina of decorum, with Biden's side touting
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their push for no more Games,
no more chaos, even as they fully
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embraced the games in chaos of circumventing
traditional protocols. Meanwhile, Trump's people signaled
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they're ready to rumble, despite having
already skipped every GOP primary debate this cycle
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precedent. Where they're going, they
don't need precedent, and let's not forget
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the cherry. On top of this
circus pile up, the Biden camp explicitly
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declaring that third party spoiler Robert F. Kennedy Junior won't be allowed on stage
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because he has no statistical chance of
winning. A brutal, yet probably accurate
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dismissal of the political outlier that RFK
inevitably decried as undermining democracy. According to
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our impartial friends at Fox News,
this is shaping up to be less of
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a no holds barred slobber knocker and
more of a tightly choreographed dance atoll.
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Let's break down the deats. First
off, Biden wants the debate staged in
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a sterile TV studio devoid of any
raucous audience members or noisy spectacles, No
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rambunctious maga masses or fired up Biden
bros. Allowed just the candidates and a
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moderator having a riveting solo conversation.
Speaking of limited attendance, the Dems are
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demanding this be a strict one on
one bout between Biden and Trump. No
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plucky third party underdogs like RFK Junior
allowed to even sniff the canvas, despite
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poll numbers suggesting he poses more of
a threat to Biden than the Donald.
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But the real showstopper provision the demand
that each candidate's microphone be muted once they're
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allotted speaking time expires. No more
cross talk, no more constant Trump interruptions,
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just two old coots taking rigid turns, ranting into dead air like your
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crazy uncle at Thanksgiving riveting television,
I'm sure. Oh and if you were
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hoping this could be moderated by a
real, hard hitting journal ready to press
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both sides. Sorry, but the
Biden rules stipulate it can only be hosted
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by networks that previously platform Trump primaries
in twenty sixteen and Biden primaries in twenty
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twenty, basically a tiny Trump slash
Biden approved pool of usual corporate suspects like
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CNN, ABC and CBS. No
roughhousing allowed. At this point, I
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have to wonder if Biden's team is
actively trying to make these debates as dramatically
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inert as humanly possible. It's like
they're terrified of allowing even an ounce of
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the unscripted chaos that has historically made
presidential debates must see TV. Then again,
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maybe they're just playing the long game
here, lull Trump into a false
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sense of controlled complacency, only to
pull the rug out from under him with
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octaagenarian UFC style ground and pound at
the last minute. Hey, an old
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man can dream. In any case, Trump has already signaled he'll play by
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Biden's rules, because well, does
he really have a choice at this point.
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According to RFK Junior, the two
establishment candidates are trying to exclude me
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because they are afraid I would win, a bold claim from the long shot
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spoiler candidate. Kennedy's grievance stems from
the qualifying criteria laid out by the debate
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hosts CNN and ABC, things like
hitting minimum polling thresholds and being on the
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ballot in enough states to theoretically claim
two hundred and seventy electoral votes. Now.
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Kennedy's campaign insists they'll meet all those
benchmarks by the eligibility deadlines, but
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they're also playing a bit of strategic
keep away, intentionally holding off on submitting
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ballot signatures in some states to avoid
extra scrutiny from the DNC. So on
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one hand, you have Kennedy preemptively
accusing Biden and Trump of rigging the game
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against him, while on the other
his own campaign admits to deliberately delaying submissions
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that could help them qualify. It's
a delicious paradox of paranoia and political gamesmanship
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that perfectly encapsulates the RFK Junior experience
so far, painting himself as the noble
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outsider being suppressed by the corrupt establishment, even as he engages in the same
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cynical, tactical maneuvering he rails against. You've got to admire the sheer,
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unvarnished opportunism on display. Kennedy's whole
platform seems predicated on being the plucky underdog
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00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:56.399
railing against a rigged system, So
of course he sees on this debate drama
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to reinforce that victim narrative. Whether
he's genuinely being colluded against or simply failing
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to clear the predetermined bar is almost
irrelevant. What matters is that RFK Junior
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gets to solidify his rebellious brand and
rile up disaffected voters convinced the two party
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system is hopelessly corrupt. Its political
performance art delivered with all the subtlety of
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00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:23.600
a sledgehammer to the kneecap. But
hey, when your primary role is that
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00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:29.079
of spoiler and chaos agent, courting, confrontation and controversy is simply good marketing.
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In other news, Seth Meyers joked
former President Trump appeared to fall asleep
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yesterday during Michael Cohen's testimony for a
full half hour. Again. You know,
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I was excited for this trial,
but it seems like the only thing
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we're accomplishing is making sure Trump is
well rested before the election. Stephen Colbert,
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after learning that Trump said just do
it to hush money payments to Stormy
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Daniels, joked that Nike has changed
their slogan to Yay Sneakers. The AI
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00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.879
that helped write today's podcast said Joe
Biden is so old. He was angry
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he wasn't allowed to take part in
the first ever debate between Lincoln and Douglas
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Calarogu Shark media from Washington, DC, where two debates is fewer than three
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00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:14.199
but more than zero Unless you're RFK, this is ballid. Today, Biden
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00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.879
and Trump agree to two debates.
Get out the popcorn and let's hit this.
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00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:25.320
Well. Well, well, look
who decided to make this presidential debate
5
00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:30.359
schedule an absolute circus. In a
shocking turn of events, Joe Biden and
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00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.200
Donald Trump have agreed to not one, but two televised face offs in the
7
00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.119
run up to November, and they're
doing it all on their own Maverick terms.
8
00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:42.600
Baby, that's right. The former
frenemies practically dropped a steel chair on
9
00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.719
the Commission on Presidential Debates by completely
bucking its carefully curated three debate format.
10
00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:53.560
Instead, we're getting an Atlanta throwdown
on June twenty seventh, courtesy of CNN,
11
00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:58.399
followed by an ABC hosted rematch in
September, both of which promised to
12
00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:03.960
be absolute barn burners. If their
initial taunts are any indication. Biden kicked
13
00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.319
things off by challenging Trump to debates
under his rules. Trump never want to
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00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:12.599
resist an opportunity for chaos, and
Bombast eagerly agreed and even demanded more debates
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00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:17.519
in July and August, just for
the hell of it, because in the
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00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:22.359
endless delusion Olympics that is Trump versus
Biden twenty twenty four, there's no such
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00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:26.599
thing as too much inanity. Trump
labeled his opponent the worst president and worst
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00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.920
debater he's ever faced, to which
Biden clapped back by sassly noting he plans
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00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:36.319
to keep Air Force one for another
four years. Oh snap, folks.
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00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:41.920
Their respective campaigns tried to maintain a
patina of decorum, with Biden's side touting
21
00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.879
their push for no more Games,
no more chaos, even as they fully
22
00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:51.959
embraced the games in chaos of circumventing
traditional protocols. Meanwhile, Trump's people signaled
23
00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:56.760
they're ready to rumble, despite having
already skipped every GOP primary debate this cycle
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00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.400
precedent. Where they're going, they
don't need precedent, and let's not forget
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00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:06.239
the cherry. On top of this
circus pile up, the Biden camp explicitly
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00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:09.840
declaring that third party spoiler Robert F. Kennedy Junior won't be allowed on stage
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00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:15.919
because he has no statistical chance of
winning. A brutal, yet probably accurate
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00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:23.479
dismissal of the political outlier that RFK
inevitably decried as undermining democracy. According to
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00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.960
our impartial friends at Fox News,
this is shaping up to be less of
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00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.240
a no holds barred slobber knocker and
more of a tightly choreographed dance atoll.
31
00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:36.439
Let's break down the deats. First
off, Biden wants the debate staged in
32
00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:42.400
a sterile TV studio devoid of any
raucous audience members or noisy spectacles, No
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00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.919
rambunctious maga masses or fired up Biden
bros. Allowed just the candidates and a
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00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:53.240
moderator having a riveting solo conversation.
Speaking of limited attendance, the Dems are
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00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.080
demanding this be a strict one on
one bout between Biden and Trump. No
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00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.479
plucky third party underdogs like RFK Junior
allowed to even sniff the canvas, despite
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00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.960
poll numbers suggesting he poses more of
a threat to Biden than the Donald.
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But the real showstopper provision the demand
that each candidate's microphone be muted once they're
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allotted speaking time expires. No more
cross talk, no more constant Trump interruptions,
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00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:21.080
just two old coots taking rigid turns, ranting into dead air like your
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00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.159
crazy uncle at Thanksgiving riveting television,
I'm sure. Oh and if you were
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hoping this could be moderated by a
real, hard hitting journal ready to press
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both sides. Sorry, but the
Biden rules stipulate it can only be hosted
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by networks that previously platform Trump primaries
in twenty sixteen and Biden primaries in twenty
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twenty, basically a tiny Trump slash
Biden approved pool of usual corporate suspects like
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CNN, ABC and CBS. No
roughhousing allowed. At this point, I
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have to wonder if Biden's team is
actively trying to make these debates as dramatically
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00:03:54.680 --> 00:04:00.159
inert as humanly possible. It's like
they're terrified of allowing even an ounce of
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00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:05.039
the unscripted chaos that has historically made
presidential debates must see TV. Then again,
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00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:10.360
maybe they're just playing the long game
here, lull Trump into a false
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00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.199
sense of controlled complacency, only to
pull the rug out from under him with
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00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.560
octaagenarian UFC style ground and pound at
the last minute. Hey, an old
53
00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:24.079
man can dream. In any case, Trump has already signaled he'll play by
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00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:28.759
Biden's rules, because well, does
he really have a choice at this point.
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According to RFK Junior, the two
establishment candidates are trying to exclude me
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00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:43.759
because they are afraid I would win, a bold claim from the long shot
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00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.879
spoiler candidate. Kennedy's grievance stems from
the qualifying criteria laid out by the debate
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00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:54.160
hosts CNN and ABC, things like
hitting minimum polling thresholds and being on the
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00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:59.720
ballot in enough states to theoretically claim
two hundred and seventy electoral votes. Now.
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00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.079
Kennedy's campaign insists they'll meet all those
benchmarks by the eligibility deadlines, but
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00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:09.519
they're also playing a bit of strategic
keep away, intentionally holding off on submitting
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00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:15.000
ballot signatures in some states to avoid
extra scrutiny from the DNC. So on
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00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.600
one hand, you have Kennedy preemptively
accusing Biden and Trump of rigging the game
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00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:25.040
against him, while on the other
his own campaign admits to deliberately delaying submissions
65
00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:30.920
that could help them qualify. It's
a delicious paradox of paranoia and political gamesmanship
66
00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:36.079
that perfectly encapsulates the RFK Junior experience
so far, painting himself as the noble
67
00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:41.759
outsider being suppressed by the corrupt establishment, even as he engages in the same
68
00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:46.000
cynical, tactical maneuvering he rails against. You've got to admire the sheer,
69
00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:51.000
unvarnished opportunism on display. Kennedy's whole
platform seems predicated on being the plucky underdog
70
00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:56.399
railing against a rigged system, So
of course he sees on this debate drama
71
00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.879
to reinforce that victim narrative. Whether
he's genuinely being colluded against or simply failing
72
00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:08.240
to clear the predetermined bar is almost
irrelevant. What matters is that RFK Junior
73
00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:13.759
gets to solidify his rebellious brand and
rile up disaffected voters convinced the two party
74
00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:18.120
system is hopelessly corrupt. Its political
performance art delivered with all the subtlety of
75
00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:23.600
a sledgehammer to the kneecap. But
hey, when your primary role is that
76
00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:29.079
of spoiler and chaos agent, courting, confrontation and controversy is simply good marketing.
77
00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:34.600
In other news, Seth Meyers joked
former President Trump appeared to fall asleep
78
00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:40.360
yesterday during Michael Cohen's testimony for a
full half hour. Again. You know,
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00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.600
I was excited for this trial,
but it seems like the only thing
80
00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.000
we're accomplishing is making sure Trump is
well rested before the election. Stephen Colbert,
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00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:53.680
after learning that Trump said just do
it to hush money payments to Stormy
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00:06:53.759 --> 00:07:00.519
Daniels, joked that Nike has changed
their slogan to Yay Sneakers. The AI
83
00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.879
that helped write today's podcast said Joe
Biden is so old. He was angry
84
00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:08.360
he wasn't allowed to take part in
the first ever debate between Lincoln and Douglas