#36 / Mark Turrell, Tech Pioneer und unDavos Gründer / «Sind Roboter die besseren Menschen?»

0:18 Today on the show, we have mark to real is a global authority on scaling a tech pioneer rickabanized by the wave a brillant mind at the intersection of strategy and artificial intelligence. We going to discos what ai revolution really means for gros and global Networks Mark Welcome. I thank you want to be her fantastic places or. And what's very interesting what you will Road me on whatsapp. Bevor this show that you got about twenty times more efficients doing this here. Crazy. Thanks to AI. What did you do? Will and so one of i and i was Barry Efficient last here. So this is an is that i was just a lazy person doing nothing last.

1:00 There's i was a really losty if example and doubles we put in the tree thousand person conference and that was veasing and that. It's what you're going to talk of a playterlist. But now i can do twenty times mustoff i maybe then to put it and contax what is twenty times moming so beginning of this here i get your i have this big conference maybe i can follow with ten people now i can follow, but the hundred hundred and people. Maybe i Kind of out of one proposal now i can do twenty of this e proposals i'll do in prospekting so it's very curious to sign who is a leading edge minds and space in quantum so bevor for me to do the research, we're take it number good number of alice research have we topic my be finds in confentses find the speakers will the these things for me as I'm in.

1:48 And you i work to my p hd, i know have to do research problem. I'm extremity phones to typing so i can do lot to the things, but it was still like i was and i will so i would not finish the work so i can't work for i was and get a half of the work done from every one of to a thing but it in finish the work now the three deep research time tools that i can i know the tools have it a launes me to i was that of the world was like do you a masters this is on every topic. It lanons me to consolidate together list to people like and like a bios instantling so just on research if it'm massably more productive, but that me have a to person of the arrage masteling was so for me, the besting that i can say is at i'm time is more productive is an individual, then it was relosty and i'm really a hundreds up i'm that.

2:37 What no scaling this to the hole world to the hol socity what does that mean for if i's that's they're more people like you and. Who do this what what does the this change in the world? Oh and I think so societies going to have an interesting challenge so they i believe the the dosmed jarch of societies going to have a very challenging imperiate for the next ten and like we fifteen is because it don't just takes it and time of mindsets to know how to us the tols or even just to mindsets to to play with the tool to on the standard and mose people generaly don't have and. Most people's education that toured to repeat thing is then all two to think the them sounds and most people's Jobs.

3:20 You're basicly required to follower prozess if you have a custom is support agent to swisscom, you're notment to invent poetry what you responding to is aber these problems you need to foller prozess so right now i do see the many people that jobs that that doing and the education that the have do's an lead them to beable to evan tak advantage of this tools evan of the tools that. At the samtime at means that it of the if you if you'reable to get you're headrum this and many jungs this on by the waice of the on many create of people, then you cancreate incredible entities, the signital programs of o business and endties is one the cupicum hudge by what that's a economic measures and this typ of they go number of users relitible quickly with on this no people. I do see it little bit of a challenge that like some really like me i probabley with the what i'm doing now should be employing are in twenty people at the my mit i employ two so they're there's in people that i can be employing that I'm not that i i'm in a in exception that's a really met up, but the sin is the lunch company stop to think in this right it it will be challenging time for the next them of. It will be challenging and how do we have to pre it just that mean that maybe.

4:33 Creativeity is a more important will be a more important skill as like bevor remembering repeating. Um I'm I'm not think the best way of a preparing on pertanking for this thing is fastfilled is going to happen. Ignorate change wills and regulations to me that it's not going to have and to you that's are good. I think i was was so to likeing at Microsoft copilot is just maintum and downsments about that future investments to have that e people it was terrible ai so right now i think implementing bad ai on i systems what all out people to be employed longoff and and i'm going if you just continu is humans bichies to just be really bad it they'll medi ocriting is that i think people in. If in employment loga, how we've if we this it of go wave in this it of fun slunny sluncastic like it's a vuen what good we really doing and i do think that these technologies that we have a really perfic for have people with continuous education. If a do's people that are in the work for's right now if you want to to be combattered the go shating will be combatter a people skills you can't really much you. 7 something like chan, gpt or the shard from it's stral to right to rentraining couls personized to you so if you want to do use these tools all to these toels of them, but i think sitny create of thinking complex problems all then but i do will so see that. It's still problem going to be

6:03 in of a three for years. Bevor lot of the fundamental pieces of AI will be good in off to i can do not to the series of a business. I think it's not good in off it I'm. It's the is a launch language models. I'm it's interesting bit of mathematics so and it's incredible so we know of developed to them approximate intelligence. So because it's a it's a proxment it's a to proxment and the intelligent so it lux like it's intelligent if you can par it to my shumans it's genmulux like it's intelligent and for mosting that it's a live, it's looks really good but then and II like some time so makeing proposals and in the mitlibre proposalible invent products that i don't have it will change the the the numbes it will. But so, but i think that's some fundamentaly goes and to the lorge language models, which is the fundational bases not for all AIS, but but most the AIS the people do is to they like the chenti PTS of the will that based on some level probability. So you take a gigantic fifteen terror by they to set of what of a human what's numbus carnitus and stuff and you can like it what is the like it with this bing, the next this bing, the next and it and harrent me has some level up probability, but it not don't random, but it has some level up probibility, but that means a every single time it rons the dice this now what you have that say if you're using these adalams as portive and insurance company you like me the plains assessment. Well, if every sinkle fine, this is like problemity that it mics nonsons and it's nonsons to

7:35 little bit and nonsons to little bit of Nonsons. I'm can like it's studies we're can be for the nonsons can be out of a prices what you can't have that as a company. We can't but you be a pretty bad company if you did. It but how can you a word, the nonsens or even recoganised as no no nonsens. So I'm I can building am AI system so to as iens and so we're kind of have to do at you think some one is you know to and as have an ai and that's job is the badadate with the other ai is as i so you'll miss think to pudd it in it's owen box so this and have an e memory of what the other ons to do it and you get it a specific tons give sign you'll the verification one and you on. RA mean demonding what it up and you're the and so a right now, so then it in crises the I'm that's an stop it from hapening but it d crises the likely with the you're have a problem, they're the think just like technicly when you building these things this something and II call the context window we really just to say like you find was to get you all of god is work's right now a crust, the table and all of shakespease work will. In a context window that's really big, i can get you all of there's books at the time and then we get ons k questions the think is as a lot of books and if you then sales how me about what i go to think about flowers and what canparator's things about flowers it will go true this gigantic big blob of data and it'll havely find some think good. I if you gay it every single book a sepritly it will then give it and then outfits to say

9:07 like for eachbook sepritly and then give me an on so it will give you differon onses so there's as level as some time to we can chunk out the there's it and then you randet on chunks and then you runner on chunks it chunks, so that's just different, weiß varg taking in designing have this a i's work in practice with the goal to get a qual of the apple. So you I think it's amazing how fast it works to get workarowns it at. I'm in a ramber you're a go. I jpd was trust writing nonsens, but now I'm I'm working with and i've right text about som topics i right with i work it germany and later i pudd it into perplexity to do affect check so another what what you seeing the nother i and then it it goes search around like fifty or hundred sources what i good and even do myself. And do's ecurity i just.

10:00 Will and not think what it goes to that at the moment we're out with AI so there are i like to think at the things is playbooks, so it's kind of a manual process. We know the we have to take this we have to move it have a he an and then we take this and we've have a he an if the output's not for i good we start a get or we you but so but we falling in met or process. Just like we will do if we are, that's they disigning a photo shot can't will do this will off this will see you have these things works of this like pieces of a proces it to playboy and because we do it again again what i think we're music to waals and i have for nexters we sene will a on i okestration because then it means the some of these manual things that we do we should beable to have some pieces of them alternate it. To so like, Hey if all we was go this way this right this right, this back again will i don't have to minedally do that so can you and i.

10:58 Just do a for me, but if this this AI moves for what so fast and do's more and more things how can be keep track of that and how can we make shore that we not going to be eliminated at the end because. I'm you, I think so. If you don't keep frackabit you're like he to be liminated is. This is that's already at the moment. So at the moment is for I'm iminate that they say it like a people on bing replace by ai, but there are bing replace by people using ai. That's have you in a jt use not to use i that's find for you, but we just we just tick, tick, tick and at the time time that that's using ai and this using ai well.

11:43 Tick, tick, tick and but i and it is generally problematic me and so. But if you trick of about that's a have you so to be at the leading edge and stay at the leading edge. I think that there is a bounce between focusing on business value and keeping up of the technology so part of the isue that i see is a some people love and for me my song for any i stunsed i was using a diffent tool everywick. And a diffent tool and a different tool and i think a got about a six monsin and i realies and i have an actiye donny work. So's strike out to. Streng and and all the tools that i start to bit noing a six mons that really be can't also i have to repeat the person and so it's and i'm a pick of hew that i've going to expert and's and i'm a bisiness expert you know is how do you're pick of hew that i would Focus song i get good in off with.

12:33 And at the sametime that i know the every three mons, I'm you to poked my had up to so like a what's you think out that every three mons 6 monses will the be sitten things that i can't do todaying but i'm waiting because logicly speaking they should be doable in trigo 6 monsem at that best example with be emineke, one example is the the pictures with the thingus. Y's, so that. Three is a go you have what have at the 8 thing at creture or the three leg at person. The of the classic was pictures with the text posteds just and that we're just all the but that and when you don't sing and you're link in the feed people haveing these of blisterpack things of people and that is and you it right, it know is what's so that's some things I'm in video was not the one i see what you was not the one this a aries one it was that's they bad to ok to like ok gut. And I'm some things like a like on the video aside go from being impossible to us to big basicly practicly hollywood with it this is at game changing.

13:39 II see it form like commercial at's they tv commercials just i like think two are three wings to go it really started that they really us it if or they. Are some times they get just it's storm for it like coca cola, but it will be used for sure in the future and it's a bad message for every actor and filmaker i. Get it's the and it's also bad i'm to every body that is wicking for compliance in the bank of the people that are doing what have a copy editing books. It's a writing you text books so. Und or the legals action i get it's the. As long is you can have a red strange to trade, it's to based the control how people trade with you you like BOK for while and that can be hundred years by the i and but generally speaking m d's, mose medicum and activities of ocas to on some you's of language and II stone sleep, they're that we single book on to the planet that can speak al was that we single language.

14:47 And if you can time for of i they on is to get that is check e chovas work et cetera generally speaking mostay is he'ven to they would be bet to the most humans all the time on most things so i think then if you can't get of hide you're business away is ok by don't see this is a stanable model. If one brandomine to he and i was like so of chant around so to good use as the beyiring and so he rays sixty two $1000000 for his I'm solo panel company he's building of actoring california. And he's that this here he's saeed two millionen dollars of legal fees that he's a void it spending because he was able to us a companation of claude, open ai and out that ai s to review to craft to develed legal conrants and no really with a custom the two mini dollars that's going to do's have to race is much capital.

15:37 He can us that two millionen dollars to bring in engineers or all funs it of r and d web, but in's that of giving that money to the service indisting he's like he's you get it's out. We'll the invest is the put is a putmony in to hit and that's AH this investment. This guys ready clever the at the pulfordia companies we have should do the sign they and then the people to do can people was think well this this guys mic's profit i've have to do this is think we should do the sign the. So or it my take and a five $1000000 or 8 $1000000,00 of the legal fee is, but that's just do the quickmath and have like a loya get's pay. This is a really such in me means at OB Fifty pundred loya sitting in California, then don't don't going to can pay that that's you know but it's an avatable it's tricky and I'm I'm not massible I'm right positive or using AI I'm not positive for the next ted years about what it alectory do i think it will be brutal.

16:33 Ja, you're you're now you're we talking about you like many a doll predictions, but you're still very positive about it. I're we so positive about it is evenive you know that it could be like yes diffical changes and many people could los that jobs. And it's the. If we just that's as it of what's Typ of Weld will will live in and it of twenty me as out so my hope and to it's expectation is that is should like star trek, then tom and as it and but if we see many these technologies will have what have a science dramatic lee xcering some of the is things where like I'm all society did and put in nothmodi and to research he did and put in noth, moni and commercialization of science and i all.

17:31 They but in lots of money, but there's what have a one and professor who's in george and it's one professor this and like this one specific there and that but he do's in resurion here, we'll now with a on i's will's up like the global nature this technologies at means of now that we're lots in lots to these innovation like bobs it'll so means a quite off and it's required used to mans a capital for start ups to beable to develatings. Now i think deep seek is bring you much was the shock of this here. The beginn you this you're going to how to remember that we just beginning of this yeam that you had before there's multing billion dollar investments guing and to and video chips and everything as and deep seek even of is no and tally specific we true but he and some of a between ten and fifty $1000000 to kind of the something that is that's the nine TPS and clarks.

18:18 So i do see that there is so what innovation that is appearing that they will be many many complete break threes. I'm in execing Break Threes and Medical Science technologing I'm have us with live extention that'll be sitten. Polemies that we can have that make think stronger and altes extractive so i think that that's actionity now with this, that's a machine helposto.com of with many things to improve on socienting and have really that will and like a cheap of a ustal with means we neeper energing we needs cheap of for it, we needs that of and we need something interesting to goding but so i see there's things all like we to have on with a on i powed but i'm i can see that for the companies that a speed to coming to to to that also speed to that that the the the eben.

19:01 A stand up Eco system is one now specificly for you're for you're brothering low that is a grafic design. Now we'll baby it's going to be heard for a him specific lea for the caply you know doing compliance and website designs will baby low baklus that jobs and i kind of for that rent or the kind of for the andwolkidge and have you ones to buy the how's because if you're not know. What is in this and what's what's what do just be open mind it and hope that find like embrace artificial intelligence. Or is they've more, that's you do will it's. The I'm in on it it. It's it's a hard question i've just right go to that's the very hard question ok, so what's the i think that it's the if we think about this is on us that's a if we go bank with it to so that the nine t nine t's we'll like it the internet lot of people to the one g is the internet. A lot of people that and wanties we can be the information was roggen that it one to us you know who because what i Cate People II don't want to reseve and e mail about bangrod for you know it this and mat of the they're in one to us internet ultimate lee they will do the Internet my mother is in what if it was rebin to was it is all cheese the Internet cheese is what ever facetime bit you a calling it's in matter that that the time i's it in one to she's a he is in anying so i do think this is a sotn level of on the standing in acceptance and he's be think like this is the infrakure the future. It he's not going to wing and then idealy the and know fortuning these two's a really

20:32 is it's get access to so it's the endal so if you like at home, it's time people, spendel and social media if they just you's one out a last then on on instagram and you's it in stats to lynn something in stat, then they would be dribaticly bet of aster. I'll do, I'll do it is a dry, so no. We're going to talk about the undevols movement you've been a key for a figure behind the undevols movement for does. We have an ird it what is the core mission and white it you feel the world need it and alternative and alternative to the traditional the was summit.

21:13 And i like that of uniconventional that was is probably the best for that is it of frame of and that was and i was a wefmember in two thousand 1. So i pay the thousand to go and at the. With my company that it was turtley what? It I'll I don't the video you'd it about it how white was versed just. So and so, i think that what iphone the is that i have a quad a meaning for conversation and that phillist you was some of the a lady who's doing stoping and cuban traficing and the wath it in biteed out and that the time there was about two thunsend seven hundred people in the Congress center and it's on the same to it. It's not a physicly big and building. So and she's at like it's great that the aleconomic for them hs chosen this topic. This here is bing important, but bing realistic her topic is and important in off and get a literty seeds plus a mine as for social Initiative and Davos every end in the web and her topic is and the important every five years so that for this going to be for years of nothing so yes, it's nice to get a stage but what i've in sex you.

22:19 At the singing time back in two themes that you and you're from that was on me. Yes, i go up there. Yes. And what was you'll baming that so that you when was you're first to the web experience. For you and it was when we venture school and we're so like hi. Klar Hi Top Politicions Walking Around in a Street. And I think it was II went the first time that there's top politations wind in to the school. I think it was are on a two nine years, it was an engineered it it because i'm bevor it was that's they this what event was that's a quintixtraktive so i there we'd take ave the play grand for the kids of the limosine's go park. Yes, Brad Pitt and dunganina Jolie did an event and our school.

23:07 Theatre. I'm some and they lisa that the what i get up we find and and to the actually toke about school of but the school no i don't. Talking about, i don't know economy here the politic. And this is by the kids. What that's what i doing from time to time now a they's like as yers. What and this is happening more a more the this more in integration and to the community this more of a realization for the love aconomic forum is that they don't live in a sepper bubble, i can IX village that have that that's it of pons of an eco system. When i was there in two thousand aid, i was that for in this it of nike sit of elite bubble, and we're you have gratebing in really bubble, but what i know to is the every single short was MT. Just the Shop People's what i the leaf we're not but you was going to go it.

23:51 But but that's the bedsing because the shops i know and to empty the holy here because the holy rand it out for the wef and that make you not money to keep it empty the holy here. Will and i think the city and as a lot of responsibility of figaring out hand of the so of the problem and if. The's what trying to do at the Moment. And if the city was to invest and soving that problem that will be valible. That will that do. Will and and and and i's and they't they to do if it will. Because but it lies and because there is in this avanced to man a money now that can't in and know that this time they're not the hundreds of millions a canin to the lokal people that was antrow in two thousandate so in two thousandate all of the apartments to emptying because all the lokals with leaf because the schools with klos that the kits with gots all of the apartments he's to be empty in all to the shops he's to be empty today, two thousand people in town, i think that's leased two thoands it out minim. Age of is applentments get's rent to down for ten and quit off in Fifty thousand, so we can do a quick bit a mathematics and he've in if the Lokals don't get all of the money we can quickly workout how but I'm a people in the service in the straight part and I'm like and I'm think I'm going to can't can't know and the community with I'm like community he and that was what loft pot is, but in that is well because we's it of. We can be pons of the problem.

25:16 We are pons of the solution. And you're under was is happening and i sing in one of the big hotels. And we action and place and seppro place so the cool thing. A crashing. Is that so we think I've really's pons of the Mountain place, a Hotel Fantastic Hotel. It's an but a bergborn and so we're really good for star and space for a compenses so we take a sevel of the rooms and so I've programming Monday, three they. And we have tenalfifting different programs, so covas things like health or energy, ai, fintech, education, work and so it's really crating this it of time and space for people together together to then get that's it of voices in the messaging out and then like for this in of space for people to network and then for me one of brim sessions with on the devles is to bring action to devles so we will one i bean will can i think this different times of panels, i was ons people what happens next.

26:12 And if they don't have a good on some, i think you'd going to panel he's i think tok is in i tok is vary important i just playly the world economic for them is designed that two thousand six is i spirit of dialog and this is vary important how we have a for for my end of the promnot it the spirit of action it's also me a plan as is literity burning or drowning somtimes the sameplay somtimes on the sameday. So right, not I'm be can you need more and more action so that will for me. This is this intentional tim and spase we have to we drive action, but who am i to deside, but there's just be have or ai analytics or robotics so for me i don't have you know i'm if that you've good ideas so to comed and on that was kind of have to.

26:58 You and what is the usp different from the. The traditional with is it more, i think you're talking about democrortising things so. Yeah, so democrortizing dabas is word stones it from and that can's from this two thousenate observation to so i if the human trafficing they can't speak so i can't like my cons of was base on people to do it in a place to stay i'm very, very simpling so this down's all to see work is now this twenty thousen people do you do the place to stay and something to do? But democritoniesing dev us this and me to say it's openful everybody because democritay offroad does and say the everybody gets to going what it means to say that was that the needs to be more will spaces for people to do this intentional things now what it means and is that if you're hundred downs and to do something very people can say us that means that for the tips a conversations a really quint naring if in the of the hand, it's so to there up many many of options, this many many places it los mal voices to comin what topics to comin. It will so I'm makeing a cheap a genualy is broke, many will women's it up astom, beful and all so people from different countries is well.

28:07 It's out of i's, it have a world economic forum but you're representing and he twenty time to the will's population so i think then for by and off and in the keything that i don't but and up was i'm sharing information that was basicly free information the people that and hand. It was crazy that this hotel bunch that was the App so have you get in the important hotels. I want to that kind of banks it in two things and i because i'm at the sit of very interesting swiss bankers and loyers and they would be at the congress center, but they would be in this hotel and this i will have you get that and they've will with the swiss asian changbre of comers i're good what i and I'm. We have AA break for session on thirsting one and we just have the letter and the be get of the hotel and show them the letter and the no stays will pay fifty Franks and the be goin what that was the secret and and i find a minute, it's a little but like finding out of the luminar teax is and the is that the part the pitten code is one, two, three for. Right but now that's concentrate on on because they's potgast is many about artificion and intelligence. What's are you're doing in the wask and this topic? So for me, the big think that I'm so the number Barry is I'm so the super interested for the was and the wask is me a reed it out what's going to have in and extreme mons to to my mons, so it think that i'm interested in or and body it AI. So, this is a robotics dragons

29:38 us of sensidate and so i See the Future Game will physical so German The Boston Dynamics. Dog the Boston Dynamics. And so so that was the Robot Dogs, I'm a robot dog. Ok, so the Robot dog and at Machine Learning think i like am Hey and i on it. I'm want to this video about two is a go, but for you'd progre the the resuches with progream the dog you would go it would don't but it with follower progream i what's the video about two and a half is a go, i they get it access to chant gpt version phone they put it's dataset in to gpt and they get the dog a microphone and the speaker so then the dog a be toll will going to the rogan and bring me bank the Bucket. Is will now the dog with get it you use it's ficion and say will are two tipes of buckets, that's bucket and the green bucket which one do on the for you can't do that because it it an understand what language vision and so right now we like it that's sing as we grachely time and this lounge language models and also when he's a world models as we'll bem me comput it interphysical substance we can have machines that move picking so i was very about.

30:57 Can you is AI was in Shanghai and one? I was kinding back at like, I was a maze to see are on two hundred workers, we surf is a main street and it was all don't have a night, but the physical people i then like a randal streets of you are a and i'm beginning to a match in we'll all was the humans kind of work in the dark and the can and chan and a massive ons but right now i can now a match in the dow be so to have a humanoid roval to be digging in everything also and do the work to we need nix us stop in night on. I think humanoy at the so to humanoy roybots and dragons and we think as is going to be really big. Just. The think is at i'm interested in is use cases, so this lot of what have a nixed resolts about i ja so the nix resolts and how companies a using AI how if i would like to speak to the best companies with the best use cases because they don't something special and quite offon is not i cheat the technologies quite offon is leady ship. It's what have that's just it's some ways that they refill that business proceses and so it love to lan from them and to and get them stages well to that the people can lan from them and like things that i'm interested and AI health, i'm health is important for all of Us, so I'm back i have my my pendix ruped this here.

32:14 So IA hands on experience of the uk l system for two x and them the German hell cast system of two. It's what a complicate there and now i got a sog in a from the mine, he was a will to get me verification two this prozess so was in reline on AI or just the doctes with them, but I've i can get my blood resolts every they to the AI and the AI was always gate me basity the carranked response every single that. How do it just work you get you brut results to AI, but how that i as to get your blood to do it. I when it so what i so i was in the so i soded my my pendix Brut rutched i live in Bill in Germany, but not it was wiking in London and it is out of tommy ake, but it was just genwise tommy ake not nanaria and so and it up at westminster college college London Hospitals i think so what upons is that tipity the news with comround it nine, a ms take the blood. The result will be puddent it will be completeed and puddents the system it around tener clark, but then because i was an as city a kangs it central i will visiteed by a Dr two PMI realies at i as a patient have the white to my data. Oh.

33:25 So i we just get to the dr, we're evently what i realies this. I don't know it of Us so mike is my surgent france that will you can just us the. And you can't going to do up so what i think it is at two thirty, i say will can i have my blood resals and they would just read me of the numbus i we're time to min to change epeating and then it's they will i cate based on these numbus you're not going to leve hospital for the max foodies. Ok, is i'm some of it's. Bad but it's it's really intrace and. Then what i would do is that in the evening, so I'll what you think what's it. I expect for tomorrow for my bloodress als and it's a live, it's going batch with like this, it's not the voice like like that so we get me is a patient not'm will controll of what was going on, but then all so just because it me and they will that's a my clp number. Kangel i don't what that means so i then aus chanchy pt at sell like a what is it and then i used deep research to do acture research on and and then I've make it in to podcast with notebook lm so then i like it was kinding my bludd stron for for the from bludwork me in the this is for listing to podcasts orden the science of the history of Medical science. But i think this principal of get in your data. And making doing something we that is really democratising as and the same time you know there voices or there's even there science of that the big five or big companies or geting one more control of the world we just the

34:57 the opposit of democraty i get so. It's the so we there is this about so and lies the tools exist to have devmagrantic cape of it is it's anitrice as and dividuals and as ecuctive what we us that democrassy or right wisely or badly so at the moment just because as a democrassy or democrantic prage this is a mean to say will be good. Get my be battleed the the alternative, but it does them. You does it drags from alone, it has to be live you. I think the underthing is well and maybe this them goes and to AIAI slop and you know one xats and the one I'm fastnated get will stampus it because i want to hospital.

35:37 I Know II know be just Instagram if i when to hospital but now i like it instagram i be onsn will i what i be can't fastnated bice i have little human content there is. And have about the human cont. Like do you was you find as human content? Will I'm not make BAI so now instead I'm in this the I'm in this is i'ch you good podcast so i have a body should waters this definly on instagram, and if we think outs, but then this the we've think the two cats on that podcast. What so this a potcasted cats and of cats cats so I'm have. II love Cats but i have you see in the potcast is potcasted. It's get you when the quite ok, they're two like they're so that's casted cats to you can that poticasting and it's going to be AI driven ok.

36:23 What i see them as a grancheling we know the a 1 when hellosination is kind of at and nice pretty with it will for probibility sometimes kind of with roggen ons it's kind of we don't know how it kind of with the ons as an even if we could we can't me bub it to look as humans a kind of lazing it's will's if I've something lux cooled and attraktive we will tent to do the simples think and fall of it up and set of using are the it's all very well that's a doing research and that's a fall of. Up to see are all of this link's korrekt, but people have with do that i so i think there's just generally a human designed and so of energy with means of we will do the simplest and easy as what i posible and i think the most people a lousing if the even hadit but that lous in there ability to do critical thinking is this right, is this gut, is this korrekt? Kind of you, so just it I'm going to was in i can't free surrek apport and that was a Guy who I'd met in London we met i've going to get selfie with them and so we don's to have an urgent meeting, so I'm siting insurrek apport have ins urgent meeting with them and it's that out we need used teams and it was a pop up on my photom sign we like you need to down lot zum sdk sign i you need to move to piesing this is org this i'm you know you met the going to iphone a shot a man of time but. A something is rog and because i know a something is rogg on a trust.

37:50 My Instinct if i have any cents a something is rogg people do anything bad it is rogg. I autistic Triped isition it is rone. I then work down that is accounted bean hanged and some of you was tring to get me to furson still stop on to my computer so that we get all the will we're stop in all my network down, that's because i have critical think i don't pm in i don't finish my p hd, but I'm in i that the p HD research work i know how to do critical thinking for me this is in my blood, my tnay and my my metal will most people don't have down. People are that phone go swipe swipe, swipe this and and sandly mise people that be kind of mindless it will be nice this so to shay conmatralin to do better, but it the sametime on or phones they have access to the global knowledge of the planet they can lynn creeen if they one to they can't like sushi I'm like it to will kind of stuff, but they just chuse not to so i'm be have freedom and they have freedom to chuse i don't we they don't have to the. So, critical thinking is one of the main things we have we we we should.

38:57 Critical thing is import and i think it's so create is. Important. Creativeity is not a one, just creativeity can't to it. And creativeity and you're talking about human content. It's II get you we get as more valible as i generated content, so is that true. I you my is human content more vanible. I say now Problem if I'll can balance have and content. There's res out them i would so from a migority Perspektive ai content probibley generaly will be movany that will den human content and we've the be setan aries what human content is vinstly bettet and anything AI can camelp with so i think that there is in the best comedy is defany right now human generated at the sametime. When i was be can you my really journey on II so II Grup in engliden so i like blackout of and i for I've got I've going to netflix I've two two seven's but teenage on so we have a netflix account, a disney plus account amazon prime accounts we have every peace a content you good posible get. I can't i have and lovested any one of the comedies and any of the street tb sh is not much for me. The most that i evos the have of one so it blog was on i got AI and and I'm that will invent for me in the match to me contry. It then invented imagine we smoots and then it some point then in ementated and imagine we

40:28 football team. We're an ementine we football red school do with in go and then in evented that he be can code drunk driving and it was a that body it in the back at the call that he's like it's holes of i'm is loveing by head of a was generally it's territ we funning. I'll me but so i I'm so now for i what in the say the a and i is ness severy not funny, not so. No it, this is not I'm I'm doing a lot of music composing with so no. Oh you've really good. And sometimes I'm really surprise even ja, sometimes the lyrics i do sometimes we'd also mit germany or JTPT and them really surprise, sometimes what kind of vity and. Funny sings.com out and even how's uno matches it to the music to find the right emotion.

41:18 Oh so II really this agreive some about is as oh this is AI stuff is very technically call and emotionless it is not. And so but me and I'm always project and about have problematic it will be for the people. The Rage fifteen to one five. We I've expecial. It is have we get started. And the thing is it and me it if you're so if you're songwriter and you want to really songwriting is going to be, you'll think will how do you get in attraktion and and not experience to be can go to a songwriting when and the a onnies today in this is now it's bring record it and what have a some of twenty twenty five a on i's really pridy incredible next you're a beeven beta so you I'm get started. It is it's just I'm I'm I'm i'm like my two song that these that's stilling physics and a plate methematics so but he've an that and nose aries.

42:11 I don't think that save i the no so i do see of as genualy we have a hudge problem that is based it's a frate train heding to what's us when at the moment with in mons not even years in with in mons, this people will not get in plate. Because I'm like it's i have to be a campalist because i have to have moni i have requirment so i have to have for what have a shall this and i can't go to the bank in sella can really sorry a last a hundred and fifty thousand and i have more moni to these so i can't to ford to hy and mol people them andy i can't to ford to hy people that don't have this go's i can't to ful that but what it the people get sos it i think the out of one is wad a people then get retrained. Is not just the going people?

42:55 It's the people that a doing website design or i'm have you don't lovable for that's a makeing games and stop. No. So. It's they now at the moment, so there's this hole application building sets of AI so lovable cursor even german i can do it to and you just the scribe i would like to make a. Like whipe Coding. I have vipe coding so i can't for examples so one of the games that i play and that ons like pranked we speaking is i have people share apopments and so i think it is some of he's go the three butern apopment. This is a cuple this is a two man who don't want to sitten a bed together and we play bad tetras i can't wipe code and because of start to do if you can get this of this podcast one do them but's i can't wipe code a game I'm call to that was Bad tetras and I'm it'm might nopy perfic and might nopy good but we but takers two a three minutes to right a prompt we like what have a five minutes for some codeto.com out if we really want to do we can's ben to if we i was poking it a out and then this a generaly decent in of game.

43:59 Cool, what's about game developers what about people and this it just the game right now if you like it, that's say have a new app for banks to then a coordney accessing your bank information so right now the we think this if you're going to lot to special skills lot to work lot's about it at the moment, the man in these a is r ok all about. Last year they would just bad or on existent, but is the rate of change in twenty twenty Six they's vive coating things will be ok to go and twenty twenty seven, they will be excellent. And we know that because I'm the ling technologies get batter and batter and vastedmans of money comed because futioning the technologies out of this demokrities because it's easy in off to go use it. Just in required tens of millions to get started and he want to can spin off this, they if means then that you've go avastedmansive innovation, create of thising and you have people using AI like that have to like this, they if means all of the prototen is now will be sole to monot to you. Up, so what what do we tell out as people who was jobs are in danger now that just to keep up and learn how to us AI toles the will for that you.

45:16 I think there is been a an under precation of physical work, so if we can't it's crazy and many big cities. It's possible to get a ploma. At my house, we have a leaking sing we have the leaking sing for two as it's not easy and because it's not a big in of what to get a plumer and it's not an off of blood or hells, but it's we hits not an easy think to do and so i think the on physical things of tables so so i think this so a level of physic unity this missing now remember i's that about embody they i at a sitnt and it will be cheap it's bent than on a rob and that's an streep do's an work can be trained with an a second to do it diffent job.

45:58 It's tricky, we're i i'm it a ali and I'm just busiting you're planet i can do is go back home and of a one he's he will body is a qui fonber. What do you a grid that we live in the really interesting amazing times now? Oh. Massivling. What what was the sing that genery it's repressed even you in the last. The last here i. Can that. If i tree, this is like they what it the surprise is that of have this you so one surprise with junk you one so the car company junk you all to don't predise any cars for one year. That that i was broke, i are a red, some and what. They're problem by i the guest tarter and that they're ran bypic a kind of calomerate, but that man that they didn predise so the nomaly that predise of thanos and cars a dying, but so i'm in a sitney cosom two billion plus, but it a gigantic car company because of.

46:57 Ly pool of security we're problem no much different for many, but the onses security and stop preduzing all of the ecles we have to no com of and for the supply ching that was a shock is it was an two days and you spin up a sever get when one mont that it in predus and you becles what the hell nexting is that i think it was this here, what the in so the Russian nuclear bommes i for in ciberia God exploded by Dragons. Then you like a the you have the bility to have at a unconventional delivery systems for weapons. I can this kase at truck with a roof that i'pons up a drone that can go seven clomit is altonomas link spang and you just $300000000 with a quipment um the shark pase was an just that it was that plus dan mark with the lanear and this dragons bling it. I will Critical Infrastrukture a Cross Europe has Zero Security Zero.

47:54 Zero if you are to play a little walgame is the how we would you like play with Europe. We have nothing and there is no intention visible to do andy think about it i there so we're like with the fensters. That was a second shank, i think i'm not a shank was just generally the people didnt a preshank that when in the american democracing when that president god elected and that i will do the stakens what we shocking was that he did there's things maybe I'm in Germany, there's a we's coalition governance and nobody have a gets with they've outed for. So maybe then as perfit, we plosible that ok he's no going to do it because polititions is never do it. I think what was surpriseing was how surprise everybody aus was that they doing what they've said, but now i think that the thing is and for you're single peace of Society he's music all of the sign time this is another shark because i think mantally it it it it we'll to about AI and and not they I've go relative legen.

48:58 I would say realistic, but we can i'm happy to say verry passimistic use what's like we the happen and that's going one piece of the puzzle at the moment is we requoting this there are ancraft carriers of the cost of venus wila and the United states as desideed to be kind of pirate nation ok, I'm should i can and i'm should this a lot of my stop them i'm shure it a someplate the supreme court mike it's. Amazing things i going on but gating back to the topic off this potcast how what's the roll of AI? Can't good AI help us with the the the wordmower save.

49:39 The like I'm you we play the game and me like that's upsign is a and i responsible for the mass and drum of this here and that it's not. I think I'm I'm got to. Say this. But I'm pretty comtible the right now if a look at that say the material pieces of geopolitics now with the us, there are humans behind all of this things. I think it's pretty clays, it's twenty humanicing and I'm maibing this twenty, twenty five or twenty six possible is p humanicing this is when humans have being allowed to rutm control all of the decisions. It's not and twenty sixes a bit hot but twenty seven twenty a you beginnt to see a will, we're makeing we have to valve some pieces of decision making some ideas two AIS have we've would have a varians there on and so then we think some of the humanness out now humanity as many incredible grate strips, love create loyal team. At the samtime humans have hangoves humans get andoid humans get upset the people have different skin color to we chador i humans or dot like a lot of ishus as we'll I'm can't be surprise in twenty seven twenty a probible will start more on the corporate signed because in the corporate signed me sign, i we think three hundred and Fifty KY if I'm some senior managed disiding with product we me the out and i can't do that.

51:03 So that brings as baby to. You know I'm I'm a journalist, I'm exegerating sometimes or robots the bad of humans. It's the. I don't what you're going. It's also it's already over but. We go what what's what's a time frame for what we to find besser. Ok, i's optimate to time frame and. I'm I'm. A time frame of like the next five to ten years. Ok, i. Think the generaly so. Really when we humans think about this and we think about humans, we was will think of a soles and then we think of mozart.

51:46 I'm Stine rinaldo, we just like big, they're bestival humans as a post to the vast mass is the on rinaldo, mozart etc. So i think right now with in a tenyear time frame. What have a version, I'm so the think is at a roboard is an a roboard so we have what have a testlo i human, i roboard standing here because oftrul it will be more like the bolk from star trek, it's going to connecting to all possible date that have a beat and have a will be is will so and it my be instantiates it is a thing with the glubbing face that is token to us, but it's not that it's red moul bookston we have it can sin the song is it can make a song, but we can have it's at et ceter. We will need to fundamentally have a different relationship, but we know sales as humans and to coexist for this brabals and machines on this planet as to what that will be i don't know but it will it.

52:45 It's an material think we will have to coke with they have to the next five at and you is so on the balance i see machines, we probably do it if we like it that's the ninetee fite nt the population machine to we beta. Better in what I'm. In the think is the I'm in don't been will acadon it we product to but it maybe in tenal fifty me is we have to stret money because monnies a relevant i get that's one of elon nusk thing is that so and and it would be nice of humans with always kind, but that you want to the thing is i've like curies about thinking is like they is a machine likeing you humans is a for me humans at the find by ham ups they like.

53:26 Because on for all the machines have all the data because if you have have a but is whatsapps and you have your snaps and you have your facebook machines, no human kind and human history, and when we humans with tell the machines that we really on us to we're kind and it's like when the humans is but no no i'm really tross with it because he you have you but so right now the machines will have all the data. So, i think hubans we have a that's a differing you know for in flate to the apinion of all soms as as species, we some how big the best of all sofs on on best days and and i know all actual sofs right now missions don't get he's it just one's bit's numbers and stop that the bers it. It does me not think that space frost to be humans to be fund to be kind loving notring and hope for you. We us the extra time that we like have to do will good humans down for it, we can do generick speaking, i'm not to hopefill but i think it's it of if you can settly find you're good goup and trime, but the is i get french literity what i was sixteen seventeen it so i's that it in England and I'm in the book condeed.

54:37 By Voltab. Voltab that's what the. So and condit has this of a young kid roaming around the world always the something always best of the grosses of we's green on and at the end of the book, the whistom of the book is it's for q TV APQ tv nots regeldum or vuls regeldum you're need to the kind of here im Garten. I think and we've know i do have a twenty five your plant of chains, the will i just that was as a plattform and this people then you i can't want to not a portcast me to the vice all the things is will so right now generaly i think this many positive thing is that all them i think that is will i from all unnatriping Cuban we do you need so that of the conf for somes in the people klaus to us and it's good to so to take on we're a car of the will but you still he's the conf you's.

55:24 And the people about you and you know you to be have the and wellanoff and like in my kase. I think it vance to the a i's thrill there and the think that I'm beeng twenty tons and will productive this and think and you think we've going to want you'll my a little bubble if i can shantings and have it's kind of the people is well have it to do that to. We just we'll see that. We we'll see and if you as i can go on a non talking to it's so interesting and it's even long and that a most of the podcast we already it and thank you so much and hope to dove was will be a successful us at was befor and for you and thank you for coming here i know.

56:07 Thank you have a somuch you really really go. Thank you have a somot thank you.